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Mon 03/23/09


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:32 AM - Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Oil Fitting (Catz631@aol.com)
     3. 06:58 AM - Re: leaking fuel inside the wing (Tom Jones)
     4. 10:39 AM - Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab (akflyer)
     5. 11:05 AM - Re: Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab (Larry Huntley)
     6. 11:10 AM - Re: Rudder trim tab (patrick reilly)
     7. 11:26 AM - Re: Oil Fitting (jdmcbean)
     8. 11:26 AM - Flaperons (jdmcbean)
     9. 12:55 PM - Re: Flaperons (Lowell Fitt)
    10. 01:33 PM - Re: Oil Fitting (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    11. 05:12 PM - Re: Oil Fitting (Pete Christensen)
    12. 05:46 PM - forward stick travel (clemwehner)
    13. 05:55 PM - oil hose (clemwehner)
    14. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: Emailing: Kitfox shock cord tools (Larry Huntley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:32:25 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab
    Thanks Mike ! My first car was a TR3 when I was 18. Nostalgia thing for me now. I restored both and the Stag. Will sell the Stag and probably get another project. Car or plane ,don't know yet. I have a 'hankering" for a 701 or maybe a project Kitfox to install a Rotec. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 05:44:12 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Oil Fitting
    Kirk, Do yourself a favor and contact Merle Willaiams at _murlewilliamsaviation.com_ (murlewilliamsaviation.com) . He has the proper aviation fittings for your engine and will know what you need. I had to do the same thing. Here is an example on my oil cooler. The fitting on the far side (which you cant' see) reverses itself 180 degress in a very short space.It would have kinked a hose I then had to run a very short hose piece (about 3 ") then into a special fitting into the oil pump. Merle had all these pieces and knew exactly what I was talking about. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 06:58:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: leaking fuel inside the wing
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    > They are fiberglass tanks, 2 x 6 gal. I have pretty much come to the conclusion that replacing them is the thing to do, especially since the new tanks are ethanol resistant so that opens up more fueling options. My primary concern is the fabric repair that will accompany the tank replacement. Will I still need to take off the wings? Am I just better off getting an A&P to do it? I don't really feel like purchasing all the stuff to start spraying paint right now, especially not if I have to dish out about a grand for new tanks. If you determine that the tanks need to be replaced, the original tank style would be the easiest. The wings would need to come off. two people can easily take the wings off. I use a board padded on one end to prop up the wing tip, my wife holds on to the wing tip while I take the strut off and remove the wing to fuselage attach bolts from the spars. Then we slide the wing off the attach lugs and set it on a sawhorse rack. I guess the wings weigh about 50 pounds each. Cut the fabric next to the tank top edges, and bottom edges if the fabric is attached to the tank bottom. Use fishing line to cut the RTV between the tank and spars and out the tank comes. You could then install the new tank and take the wing to someone who can replace the fabric over the tank bay. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235795#235795


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    Time: 10:39:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    holy crap... and you had the testicular fortitude to include a picture of a short wing piper death trap. You must like living on the edge :-) On a serious note, very nice stable of toys! -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235828#235828


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    Time: 11:05:08 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab
    Talk to these guys, Snake. Don't let the poor boys kill themselves. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab > > holy crap... and you had the testicular fortitude to include a picture of > a short wing piper death trap. You must like living on the edge :-) > > On a serious note, very nice stable of toys! > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235828#235828 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:52:00


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    Time: 11:10:54 AM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Rudder trim tab
    Dick=2C The light blue lines striping the edge of the dark blue on your pla ne=2C is that tape or paint? Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford=2CIL From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rudder trim tab James=2C This is the way I did it. Just a small aluminum plate I attached with 4 # 6 or #4 screws (can't remember which) so that I could remove it or increase the tab size if I needed to. I had to adjust the bend a couple of times bu t now it is spot on (as the British would say). I have a picture from my fi les albeit not very good. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Pensacola=2CFl Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less.


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    Time: 11:26:28 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Oil Fitting
    We have these in stock. Also a remote oil pressure sensor kit. Fly Safe !! John McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfoxkirk Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Fitting Hello Kitfoxers, Does anybody have a part number for an oil fitting that screws into the oil intake side (oil pump inlet) of the Rotax 912, and the other thread end goes to an Earl's fitting? I have one from an auto parts store that claims it is 37 degrees (aviation) as opposed to the 40 degree automotive. Mine leaks and I think the fitting on the engine is not the same angle as the Earl's fittings. Thanks, Kirk Martenson Classic IV Speedster


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    Time: 11:26:45 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Flaperons
    Good Morning List, As some may know the original Model IV through 6 flaperons were no longer available for reasons that were out of our control. We have changed that and have re-tooled so we can offer that style flaperon. Fly Safe !! John McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"


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    Time: 12:55:41 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperons
    This is good news John. Thanks for that effort. Hope to see you at The Desert Fox Fly-in at Thunder Ridge Saturday. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Flaperons > Good Morning List, > > As some may know the original Model IV through 6 flaperons > were no longer available for reasons that were out of our control. We > have > changed that and have re-tooled so we can offer that style flaperon. > > Fly Safe !! > John McBean > Ph 208.337.5111 > www.kitfoxaircraft.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > >


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    Time: 01:33:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Fitting
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Mon, March 23, 2009 4:42 am, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Kirk, > Do yourself a favor and contact Merle Willaiams at > _murlewilliamsaviation.com_ (murlewilliamsaviation.com) . He has the proper aviation > fittings for your > engine and will know what you need. I wouldn't try to load the web site. <http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/> According to AVG's web shield, the site is blocked because of it's association with www.sonoragraphics.com. Here's the exact message I get: Multiple threat detection: "www.sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation/";"Exploit Link to known exploit site";"" Phoning him is probably best as I don't think he frequents his computer for e-mail. Merle Williams' phone: 602-978-0553 In order to look into this a little further, I used wget (in Linux) to contact the site: # wget http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/ --12:21:49-- http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/ => `index.html' Resolving www.murlewilliamsaviation.com... done. Connecting to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com[64.202.189.170]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 400 [text/html] 100%[====================================>] 400 390.62K/s ETA 00:00 12:21:49 (390.62 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [400/400] That resulted in saving the opening page which does redirection to senoragraphics: # less index.html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> <title>www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com </title> </head> <frameset rows="100%,*" border="0"> <frame src="http://www.sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation" frameborder="0" /> <frame frameborder="0" noresize /> </frameset> <!-- pageok --> <!-- 04 --> <!-- 7.9--> I didn't receive any exploits when I probed but that service has a poor reputation for hosting exploits. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -- Voltaire (1764)


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    Time: 05:12:06 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Fitting
    I use that web site all the time. There is no danger. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Fitting > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Mon, March 23, 2009 4:42 am, Catz631@aol.com wrote: >> Kirk, >> Do yourself a favor and contact Merle Willaiams at >> _murlewilliamsaviation.com_ (murlewilliamsaviation.com) . He has the >> proper aviation >> fittings for your >> engine and will know what you need. > > I wouldn't try to load the web site. > <http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/> > > According to AVG's web shield, the site is blocked because of it's > association with > www.sonoragraphics.com. Here's the exact message I get: > > Multiple threat detection: > > "www.sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation/";"Exploit Link to known exploit > site";"" > > Phoning him is probably best as I don't think he frequents his computer > for e-mail. > > Merle Williams' phone: 602-978-0553 > > In order to look into this a little further, I used wget (in Linux) to > contact the site: > > # wget http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/ > --12:21:49-- http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/ > => `index.html' > Resolving www.murlewilliamsaviation.com... done. > Connecting to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com[64.202.189.170]:80... > connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 400 [text/html] > > 100%[====================================>] 400 390.62K/s ETA > 00:00 > > 12:21:49 (390.62 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [400/400] > > > That resulted in saving the opening page which does redirection to > senoragraphics: > > # less index.html > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> > <html> > > <head> > <title>www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com </title> > > </head> > <frameset rows="100%,*" border="0"> > <frame src="http://www.sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation" > frameborder="0" /> > <frame frameborder="0" noresize /> > </frameset> > > <!-- pageok --> > <!-- 04 --> > <!-- 7.9--> > > > I didn't receive any exploits when I probed but that service has a poor > reputation for > hosting exploits. > -- > Paul A. Franz > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP > Bellevue WA > 425.241.1618 Cell > > In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as > possible from > one party of the citizens to give to the other. > -- Voltaire (1764) > > >


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    Time: 05:46:33 PM PST US
    Subject: forward stick travel
    From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
    KF'ers, How far forward does the stick travel when at the forward stop (model IV)? Does it go under the instrument panel? Thanks, Clem KF_IV -912 Oklahoma -------- Clem Oklahoma Kitfox IV-912, under construction since 1991 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235885#235885


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    Time: 05:55:48 PM PST US
    Subject: oil hose
    From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
    Is the MIL 6000 OIL hose from Aircraft Spruce acceptable for use in the 912 oil system? It costs about 5 bucks per foot and is rubber covered, unlike the oil hose that came with the 912 which had some kind of fabric covering embedded into the surface. thanks, Clem KFIV-912 Oklahoma -------- Clem Oklahoma Kitfox IV-912, under construction since 1991 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235887#235887


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    Time: 06:16:54 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: Kitfox shock cord tools
    Dave, You have a phone # in case I do get nearby. Leaving in the AM. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Emailing: Kitfox shock cord tools > > Larry I am about 90 minutes from Hamilton. >




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