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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Oil Fitting (Michael Gibbs)
2. 03:33 AM - Re: forward stick travel (Lynn Matteson)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab (Catz631@aol.com)
4. 05:19 AM - Re: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab (Catz631@aol.com)
5. 05:22 AM - Re: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab (Catz631@aol.com)
6. 05:24 AM - Re: Flaperons (Catz631@aol.com)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: Oil Fitting (John W. Hart)
8. 07:24 AM - Re: Re-applying Kreem (Guy Buchanan)
9. 08:18 AM - Re: forward stick travel (Guy Buchanan)
10. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: New Forum (Noel Loveys)
11. 09:04 AM - Re: Oil Fitting (Michael Gibbs)
12. 12:48 PM - Re: Oil Fitting (John W. Hart)
13. 03:15 PM - Re: forward stick travel (Tom Jones)
14. 03:57 PM - Re: oil hose (Kitfox George)
15. 05:44 PM - Re: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab (patrick reilly)
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Paul sez:
>I wouldn't try to load the web site.
><http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/>
There's nothing wrong with the site, Paul. The hosting service where
the site is located (StartLogic.com) had quite a few of their
accounts compromised not long ago. They sent out notifications to
account holders, passwords and authentication methods have been
changed, and the sites re-loaded.
Google was notified of the problem but they are not very fast in
revisiting sites that have been cleaned up. I believe that the AVG
software is using information provided by Google to warn of
compromised sites.
>According to AVG's web shield, the site is blocked because of it's
>association with www.sonoragraphics.com.
SonoraGraphics.com is my site and is one of those that was
compromised during the attacks on StartLogic. All of the files have
been reloaded and the sites should now be secure.
>Phoning him is probably best as I don't think he frequents his
>computer for e-mail.
Murle gets his e-mail regularly, but phoning him works fine too.
>In order to look into this a little further, I used wget (in Linux)
>to contact the site:
># wget http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/
>That resulted in saving the opening page which does redirection to
>senoragraphics:
This redirection is per design, Paul, and is not part of an exploit
of any kind. Murle's site has been sharing space with mine for many
years now.
>I didn't receive any exploits when I probed but that service has a
>poor reputation for hosting exploits.
I had no idea that I had a "reputation". Where would one become
aware of such a reputation?
As I mentioned, the hosting service and I have removed any exploits
introduced by the hackers and have taken steps to prevent future
attacks. The fact that it takes search engine companies a while to
figure this out is beyond my control, but they have been notified.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: forward stick travel |
Mine does, but I had lowered my panel for visibility and sawed the
(now) interfering, excess length off the stick. I then adjusted the
travel so the stick almost hits the seats when going for climb position.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 618.4 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:45 PM, clemwehner wrote:
> <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
>
> KF'ers,
>
> How far forward does the stick travel when at the forward stop
> (model IV)? Does it go under the instrument panel?
>
> Thanks,
> Clem
> KF_IV -912
> Oklahoma
>
> --------
> Clem
> Oklahoma
> Kitfox IV-912, under construction since 1991
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235885#235885
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TR-3Rudder trim tab |
Leonard,
That is the only picture I have of my toys together. I sold "the death trap"
and I do have to say I sure miss it! What a great cross country airplane! The
higher wing loading sure made for a more comfortable ride in the winds we
have been having! I do fly my Kitfox a lot more though, probably because 4 gal
per hour vs 8 is easier to live with and in reality I think the Kitfox is more
fun for local flying plus I have made a lot of improvements on the Fox that
make it even better.
I was going to sell one of my TR3's but I can't part with it as it is just
to much fun to drive so I am going to take it to my cabin in North Carolina
leave it there, and drive the (please excuse me) mountains. I grew up in Colorado
so maybe I should say hills but it is the best we have in this part of the
country and they are very pretty!
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab |
Pat,
The light blue lines and the white stripes are all vinyl tape. It works out
real well and is very easy to do. I will see if I have a before and after
picture in my archives.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Pensacola,Fl
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab |
Pat,
The white stripes were 1 inch tapes and the dark blue edging were 1/4 inch
tapes.
Dick Maddux
Pensacola,Fl
Do not Archive
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Thanks John for all the great parts and kits you are adding ! I look forward
to meeting you at Lakeland !
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Pensacola,Fl
**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
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Mike,
I get a Virus warning when I attempt to open Merle's website,
http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com . Your website, www.sonargraphics.com ,
does not produce any warnings. My website had a similar problem to Merle's.
I got with the hosting folks and literally had to remove some of the
Javascript graphics in the index.html file to rectify the situation because
they were infected with a Trojan. It appears that Merle's website has the
same Trojan - JS:Agent-BA [Trj]- as mine had. It appears that the file,
http://www.sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation/ is the file that is
producing the first warning. I didn't let the site open even that file, so
my Avast! Antivirus didn't check any further, In my case the Trojan had
spread to some archives in the website directory as well. It took less than
24 hours for Google to show it clean after I initiated the request for them
to re-check the site after cleanup.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Fitting
Paul sez:
>I wouldn't try to load the web site.
><http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/>
There's nothing wrong with the site, Paul. The hosting service where
the site is located (StartLogic.com) had quite a few of their
accounts compromised not long ago. They sent out notifications to
account holders, passwords and authentication methods have been
changed, and the sites re-loaded.
Google was notified of the problem but they are not very fast in
revisiting sites that have been cleaned up. I believe that the AVG
software is using information provided by Google to warn of
compromised sites.
>According to AVG's web shield, the site is blocked because of it's
>association with www.sonoragraphics.com.
SonoraGraphics.com is my site and is one of those that was
compromised during the attacks on StartLogic. All of the files have
been reloaded and the sites should now be secure.
>Phoning him is probably best as I don't think he frequents his
>computer for e-mail.
Murle gets his e-mail regularly, but phoning him works fine too.
>In order to look into this a little further, I used wget (in Linux)
>to contact the site:
># wget http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com/
>That resulted in saving the opening page which does redirection to
>senoragraphics:
This redirection is per design, Paul, and is not part of an exploit
of any kind. Murle's site has been sharing space with mine for many
years now.
>I didn't receive any exploits when I probed but that service has a
>poor reputation for hosting exploits.
I had no idea that I had a "reputation". Where would one become
aware of such a reputation?
As I mentioned, the hosting service and I have removed any exploits
introduced by the hackers and have taken steps to prevent future
attacks. The fact that it takes search engine companies a while to
figure this out is beyond my control, but they have been notified.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Re-applying Kreem |
At 05:59 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
>Also, where does one get a gas cap that can be used in the sloshing process?
Most auto parts stores have simple two-tanged non-vented gas caps. I
use them for wing folding. I can't say whether they'd stand up to
MEK, however. You'll have to do some testing.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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| Subject: | Re: forward stick travel |
At 05:45 PM 3/23/2009, you wrote:
>How far forward does the stick travel when at the forward stop
>(model IV)? Does it go under the instrument panel?
Mine does, but about 1 1/2".
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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Dave:
I had a look at the new site and I think there are a lot of things being
done right. First of all the name is easy to remember. Second; they do
have all the manuals for the Rotax engines in a nice easy to follow tables
that include the dates of updates. No following a line of links only to
find yourself back where you started. Hey you can look up data without
leaving the site or the forum. This is obviously a growing concern and I
expect to see prop manuals, electrical fittings etc to eventually appear.
Although the name says Rotax aircraft I see there are planes there with many
other power plants... So no one is left out..
As I said before Love 'em or not the name/URL "rotaxaircraft" is easy to
remember.
As you know I love my little 'Fox but I'm also interested in fling wings (
Gyros and Copters) I see they have a new forum for those aircraft as well.
That is one area I hope takes off as well as weight shift classification.
Too bad I can't afford more toys :-( I think an auto gyro is made for
photography!
I have started building a mold around my engine to extend the Townsend ring
which is way too short to cover my new installation. I'm building up the
form with papier mache and will finish it off with a thin coat of
Poly-Filler which I can wax well and glass the extention right on to the
existing cowl pieces. I'm thinking about glassing the upper and lower
halves together as I can access the engine from the rear cowl easily and
doing that will make installing some air baffles a little easier. The down
side is any time I want to remove it the prop will have to come off first.
What's you take on this idea?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:44 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: New Forum
Noel, Great -- site -- i not been here for months now , but i am over at
that new forum .
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
They got Rotax documents there too
http://rotaxaircraft.com/
This is what i like -- I posted a video from youtube right into the message
forum and you can watch it there.
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30
Anyhow -- going flying -- muddin - have a blast !!
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235624#235624
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John sez:
>I get a Virus warning when I attempt to open Merle's website,
>http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com . Your website, www.sonargraphics.com ,
>does not produce any warnings.
I think a separate request is in order for Murle's URL.
>I got with the hosting folks and literally had to remove some of the
>Javascript graphics in the index.html...
Murle's site doesn't have any Javascript to speak of, but I've
reloaded the entire site from secure backups anyway.
>It took less than 24 hours for Google to show it clean after I
>initiated the request for them to re-check the site after cleanup.
I haven't had that quick a response but I imagine with all the
hackers in the world they are kept quite busy. Thanks for the input,
John.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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Mike,
I just checked Merle's website again. No Virus warning this time, so
apparently, the reload worked out well.
John hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Fitting
John sez:
>I get a Virus warning when I attempt to open Merle's website,
>http://www.murlewilliamsaviation.com . Your website, www.sonargraphics.com
,
>does not produce any warnings.
I think a separate request is in order for Murle's URL.
>I got with the hosting folks and literally had to remove some of the
>Javascript graphics in the index.html...
Murle's site doesn't have any Javascript to speak of, but I've
reloaded the entire site from secure backups anyway.
>It took less than 24 hours for Google to show it clean after I
>initiated the request for them to re-check the site after cleanup.
I haven't had that quick a response but I imagine with all the
hackers in the world they are kept quite busy. Thanks for the input,
John.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: forward stick travel |
clemwehner wrote:
> KF'ers,
>
> How far forward does the stick travel when at the forward stop (model IV)? Does
it go under the instrument panel?
>
> Thanks,
> Clem
> KF_IV -912
> Oklahoma
Clem, the perspective in these photos make it look a little further forward than
it actually is. The top front edge of the stick handle is 1-1/2 inches directly
below the trailing edge of the lower panel fuselage tube. Classic 4 built
by the book.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236026#236026
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/stick_under_panel_170.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/stick_under_panel2_712.jpg
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Clem,- The-concern with oil line hose (912) is the vacuum side to retur
n oil to the reservoir. The cloth type cover-Aeroquip FC332 cloth type co
vering-is-made for both pressure and vacuum and is probably what you ha
ve now. You can get this at racing shops or at local hose shops. You can al
so get it blue.-=0A-George =0A=0A=0ASport Model - 914 / painting=0Ado n
ot archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: clemwehn
er <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monda
y, March 23, 2009 5:55:26 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: oil hose=0A=0A--> Kitf
ox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>=0A=0AIs
the MIL 6000- OIL- hose from Aircraft Spruce acceptable for use in the
912 oil system?- It costs about 5 bucks per foot and is rubber covered,
- unlike the oil hose that came with the 912 which had some kind of fabri
c covering embedded into the surface. =0A=0Athanks, =0AClem =0AKFIV-912=0AO
klahoma=0A=0A--------=0AClem =0AOklahoma =0AKitfox IV-912, under constructi
on since 1991=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums
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| Subject: | Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab |
Dick=2C My plane had standard doors that I converted to the observation doo
rs similar to yours. How do you like those doors? I had to redo mine anyway
as I widened the cabin 4 1/2" after seeing Murle Williams widening kit. I
also redid the latches with a bar that latches front and rear. And I purcha
sed the gas struts for the doors from KF.
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
From: Catz631@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rudder trim tabRudder trim tab
Pat=2C
The light blue lines and the white stripes are all vinyl tape. It works ou
t real well and is very easy to do. I will see if I have a before and after
picture in my archives.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Pensacola=2CFl
Do not archive
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