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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Oil injection conversion (dave)
2. 04:21 AM - King Fox Tire Production Run - Pre Order NOW (Kevin Ridsdale)
3. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversion (Guy Buchanan)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (WurlyBird)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oil injection conversion (akflyer)
6. 09:42 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (akflyer)
7. 12:10 PM - Re: Oil injection conversion (dave)
8. 03:51 PM - Master Solenoid Hot to Touch (Ken Potter)
9. 04:50 PM - Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch (Tom Jones)
10. 04:57 PM - Re: Oil injection conversion (Tom Jones)
11. 05:19 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (Tom Jones)
12. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: Kingfox tires (Roger Standley)
13. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Kingfox tires (Brian Morissette)
14. 06:40 PM - Re: Oil injection conversion (dave)
15. 07:39 PM - Re: Oil injection conversion (Tom Jones)
16. 07:50 PM - Citgo sea and snow oil (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
Here is more info on oils i complied recently
http://www.cfisher.com/oildebate.html
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| Subject: | King Fox Tire Production Run - Pre Order NOW |
Everyone,
After several request, MiPPi Ultralights is considering a production run of the
King Fox Tundra Tire 21 x 12 x 8. These are the same tire the avaition and Ultralight
community has grown to love and trust.
The cost for a set (2) tires will be $70.00 USF plus shipping.
To estimate your shipping cost go to either Fed EX or USPS shipping from zip code
48150, box size 20 x 20 x 12, weight 22 lbs.
All orders must be pre-ordered with a $10.00 USF deposit (paypal payment) required
at the time of ordering.
We are planning our production run for April 20 and the tires will be ready to
ship at the in May 2009.
Please forward this email to your fellow flyers. Mippi Ultralights will need to
accumulate a order of 500 tires to justify the production run.
Kevin s. Ridsdale - Mippi Ultralights
Phone after 5:00 PM EST 734-377-2670
ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com
or
ksridsdale@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
At 05:12 PM 4/2/2009, you wrote:
>We have been running the citgo sea and snow oil for 15+ years in
>sleds and for the last 2 years in the 582. I normally go through ~
>40 gallons of oil a year in the sled and planes. We tore a 582 down
>after 250 hrs using this oil with no wear or carbon present. The
>oil sells for 12-14 bucks a gallon.
Leonard,
I can't believe we've been hashing this oil thing for years
and this is the first time you've mentioned this great option. I've
been having a hard time getting my Pennzoil and have been looking for
a replacement for a year. If I can get this locally it might be the one.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
I have been considering getting new tires because I do not like the way the ones
installed are wearing. I can not find any of the tires mentioned on this thread
on any of the websites mentioned on this thread. Can someone help? I did
find some Nanco 21x12-8 Slick ATV tires, will these work as well? The price
is certainly hard to beat.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
Soloed the Kitfox yesterday!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
My brother was running the pennziol air cooled in his for about 50 hrs. We pulled
it down for a decarbon and the rings were close to stuck, with carbon on the
heads and piston domes. I talked him into switching to the sea and snow and
when we pulled it down after 250 hrs, there was nothing to clean.
I have tried to stay out of the oil issue as this is Citgo oil. I did not want
to get political hell fire and brim stone discussion going. For me the bottom
line is what it costs and the level of protection I have had first hand.
For what it is worth, this is the same oil that the Iron dog supplies for the racers
at the check points...
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
FWIW... I got this email this morning
Everyone,
After several request, MiPPi Ultralights is considering a production run of the
King Fox Tundra Tire 21 x 12 x 8. These are the same tire the avaition and Ultralight
community has grown to love and trust.
The cost for a set (2) tires will be $70.00 USF plus shipping.
To estimate your shipping cost go to either Fed EX or USPS shipping from zip code
48150, box size 20 x 20 x 12, weight 22 lbs.
All orders must be pre-ordered with a $10.00 USF deposit (paypal payment) required
at the time of ordering.
We are planning our production run for April 20 and the tires will be ready to
ship at the in May 2009.
Please forward this email to your fellow flyers. Mippi Ultralights will need to
accumulate a order of 500 tires to justify the production run.
Kevin s. Ridsdale - Mippi Ultralights
Phone after 5:00 PM EST 734-377-2670
ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com
or
ksridsdale@yahoo.com
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
Pennzoil - lots use and lots de carbon. I use API TC mineral oil other than
pennzoil and can go in excess of 500 hours with out issues.
Maybe Rotax shops like the Pennzoil ? Good for business?
Great observation.
The other oil we use here is Shell Advance and I think They bought Pennzoil ?
Is that correct ?
akflyer wrote:
> My brother was running the pennziol air cooled in his for about 50 hrs. We pulled
it down for a decarbon and the rings were close to stuck, with carbon on
the heads and piston domes. I talked him into switching to the sea and snow
and when we pulled it down after 250 hrs, there was nothing to clean.
>
> I have tried to stay out of the oil issue as this is Citgo oil. I did not want
to get political hell fire and brim stone discussion going. For me the bottom
line is what it costs and the level of protection I have had first hand.
>
> For what it is worth, this is the same oil that the Iron dog supplies for the
racers at the check points...
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| Subject: | Master Solenoid Hot to Touch |
Hi Folks;
In preparation to take C-FJKP out of the shop and final inspection this spring
I've been running the electrical system whenever I'm in the shop working--- master
switch on, radio, transponder etc. running. Last weekend when I went to
do an inspection before shutting down I noticed that the master solenoid was very
hot to the touch. Is this normal????
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
C-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch |
Ken Potter wrote:
> Hi Folks;
> In preparation to take C-FJKP out of the shop and final inspection this spring
I've been running the electrical system whenever I'm in the shop working---
master switch on, radio, transponder etc. running. Last weekend when I went to
do an inspection before shutting down I noticed that the master solenoid was
very hot to the touch. Is this normal????
Yes, it's normal for the master contactor to get hot. Mine gets quite hot to the
touch. Just be sure it is a continuous duty type. There is an easy way to
tell but I can't seem to remember it. Someone will chime in, if not I probably
have it in my building log notes somewhere.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
AkFlyer wrote:
> My brother was running the pennziol air cooled in his for about 50 hrs. We pulled
it down for a decarbon and the rings were close to stuck, with carbon on
the heads and piston domes. I talked him into switching to the sea and snow and
when we pulled it down after 250 hrs, there was nothing to clean.
Okay, you may have convinced me to switch oil. I am using penzoil now. At the
first 50 hrs I had lots of carbon to scrape off the rings and piston tops. I
do not have injection on my 503 so premix 50 to 1. I have to taxi about a mile
to and from the runway here so was thinking the carbon buildup was from all
that low speed taxing.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
akflyer wrote:
> FWIW... I got this email this morning
>
> Everyone,
> After several request, MiPPi Ultralights is considering a production run of the
King Fox Tundra Tire 21 x 12 x 8. These are the same tire the avaition and
Ultralight community has grown to love and trust.
>
> The cost for a set (2) tires will be $70.00 USF plus shipping.
> To estimate your shipping cost go to either Fed EX or USPS shipping from zip
code 48150, box size 20 x 20 x 12, weight 22 lbs.
>
> All orders must be pre-ordered with a $10.00 USF deposit (paypal payment) required
at the time of ordering.
>
> We are planning our production run for April 20 and the tires will be ready to
ship at the in May 2009.
> Please forward this email to your fellow flyers. Mippi Ultralights will need
to accumulate a order of 500 tires to justify the production run.
>
> Kevin s. Ridsdale - Mippi Ultralights
> Phone after 5:00 PM EST 734-377-2670
> ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com
> or
> ksridsdale@yahoo.com
This is good news. For anyone wondering what the Mippi King Fox tires look like,
here's a picture. King Fox 21 X 12 X 8 Mippi King Fox on the right, Nanco
18 X 8.5 X 8 on the left. Both mounted on stock Kitfox Douglas ATV wheels.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
Tom,
They look great. How do they handle gravel, thorns, sharp rocks, gopher
holes, etc. experienced on off airport landings?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Jones<mailto:nahsikhs@elltel.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
<nahsikhs@elltel.net<mailto:nahsikhs@elltel.net>>
akflyer wrote:
> FWIW... I got this email this morning
>
> Everyone,
> After several request, MiPPi Ultralights is considering a production
run of the King Fox Tundra Tire 21 x 12 x 8. These are the same tire
the avaition and Ultralight community has grown to love and trust.
>
> The cost for a set (2) tires will be $70.00 USF plus shipping.
> To estimate your shipping cost go to either Fed EX or USPS shipping
from zip code 48150, box size 20 x 20 x 12, weight 22 lbs.
>
> All orders must be pre-ordered with a $10.00 USF deposit (paypal
payment) required at the time of ordering.
>
> We are planning our production run for April 20 and the tires will
be ready to ship at the in May 2009.
> Please forward this email to your fellow flyers. Mippi Ultralights
will need to accumulate a order of 500 tires to justify the production
run.
>
> Kevin s. Ridsdale - Mippi Ultralights
> Phone after 5:00 PM EST 734-377-2670
>
ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com<mailto:ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com>
> or
> ksridsdale@yahoo.com<mailto:ksridsdale@yahoo.com>
This is good news. For anyone wondering what the Mippi King Fox tires
look like, here's a picture. King Fox 21 X 12 X 8 Mippi King Fox on the
right, Nanco 18 X 8.5 X 8 on the left. Both mounted on stock Kitfox
Douglas ATV wheels.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
Hi Folks
Not only do these tires work great on soft fields, pavement they also work
great on ice.
Brian
Speedster 912
85% complete
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
Sent: April 3, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
Tom,
They look great. How do they handle gravel, thorns, sharp rocks, gopher
holes, etc. experienced on off airport landings?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Jones <mailto:nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
akflyer wrote:
> FWIW... I got this email this morning
>
> Everyone,
> After several request, MiPPi Ultralights is considering a production run
of the King Fox Tundra Tire 21 x 12 x 8. These are the same tire the
avaition and Ultralight community has grown to love and trust.
>
> The cost for a set (2) tires will be $70.00 USF plus shipping.
> To estimate your shipping cost go to either Fed EX or USPS shipping from
zip code 48150, box size 20 x 20 x 12, weight 22 lbs.
>
> All orders must be pre-ordered with a $10.00 USF deposit (paypal payment)
required at the time of ordering.
>
> We are planning our production run for April 20 and the tires will be
ready to ship at the in May 2009.
> Please forward this email to your fellow flyers. Mippi Ultralights will
need to accumulate a order of 500 tires to justify the production run.
>
> Kevin s. Ridsdale - Mippi Ultralights
> Phone after 5:00 PM EST 734-377-2670
> ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com
> or
> ksridsdale@yahoo.com
This is good news. For anyone wondering what the Mippi King Fox tires look
like, here's a picture. King Fox 21 X 12 X 8 Mippi King Fox on the right,
Nanco 18 X 8.5 X 8 on the left. Both mounted on stock Kitfox Douglas ATV
wheels.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
Tom Jones wrote:
> AkFlyer wrote:
>
> > My brother was running the pennziol air cooled in his for about 50 hrs. We
pulled it down for a decarbon and the rings were close to stuck, with carbon on
the heads and piston domes. I talked him into switching to the sea and snow
and when we pulled it down after 250 hrs, there was nothing to clean.
>
>
> Okay, you may have convinced me to switch oil. I am using penzoil now. At the
first 50 hrs I had lots of carbon to scrape off the rings and piston tops.
I do not have injection on my 503 so premix 50 to 1. I have to taxi about a
mile to and from the runway here so was thinking the carbon buildup was from all
that low speed taxing with the 50 to 1 ratio.
Pre mix is a huge contributer to carbon build up as you are running 50 to 1 all
the time. on Injection 50 to 1 is only at wide open throttle
Idle could just be close to 100 to 1 with the cruise around 60 to 70 :1 ratio.
So, you almost 20 to 35% richer at cruise and almost double what an injected
engine is at 2500 rpm
Yeah , you will get more carbon thinking that way.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection conversion |
Here's a picture of the pistons on my 503 at the first 50 hours. Penzoil premix
50 to 1.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Citgo sea and snow oil |
Hi all=2C I gave the local bulk oil dealer a call today=2C and he has this
oil in a 4 gallon case for $51.25. That works out to $12.81 a gallon or $
3.20 a quart. Last time I looked at the Pennsoil for aircooled engines all
they had was 8 oz bottles and they wanted $1.99 each which equals $7.96 pe
r quart. I guess I know where I'm getting my oil from next time I'm in to
wn. Thanks for the tip Lenni! Take care all=2C Jim Chuk Avids Kitfox
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