Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/04/09


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:39 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (Tom Jones)
     2. 05:37 AM - Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch (FlyboyTR)
     3. 06:09 AM - Re: was V-Speed question and placard question - now Compass Card (dcsfoto)
     4. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Kingfox tires (Malcolm Brubaker)
     5. 06:52 AM - Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (Marwynne Kuhn)
     6. 07:17 AM - Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (Larry Huntley)
     7. 07:29 AM - Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (Malcolm Brubaker)
     8. 08:34 AM - Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (akflyer)
     9. 08:38 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (akflyer)
    10. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (Marwynne Kuhn)
    11. 09:15 AM - Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (rawheels)
    12. 09:55 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (JetPilot)
    13. 10:09 AM - Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch (Ken Potter)
    14. 10:11 AM - Re: Near disaster (JetPilot)
    15. 01:05 PM - Re: Near disaster (Roger Lee)
    16. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Near disaster (Pete Christensen)
    17. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil (Larry Huntley)
    18. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Near disaster (Lynn Matteson)
    19. 05:10 PM - Kitfoxer's are everywhere....off topic (Lynn Matteson)
    20. 05:22 PM - Re: Kitfoxer's are everywhere....off topic (Lynn Matteson)
    21. 06:36 PM - Wing Parts (Cudnohufsky's)
    22. 08:12 PM - Re: Wing Parts (akflyer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:39:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    [quote="taildragon(at)msn.com"] Tom, They look great. How do they handle gravel, thorns, sharp rocks, gopher holes, etc. experienced on off airport landings? Roger > --- Roger, I only have three of the Douglas wheels so have been waiting for the Nancos to wear out before I mount the other King Fox on the rim. I may have to go ahead and switch them over and try out some off airport this summer. Do not archive -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237630#237630


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    Time: 05:37:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Warm to the touch is ok. Very hot...would be a concern. If you are using an automotive solenoid (like for a starter) I wouldnt think this would be the best choice. They are designed for intermittent use. As Tom statedit must be for continuous use! Most RV (camping) places sell a continuous duty solenoid for about $30-$35. We had one go bad in our bus. I did the $12 (Ford style) solenoid from Auto Zone. It worked for a couple of hoursthen things started melting. TOO hot! Replace it with a continuous use model from the RV storeand all is well. It does get warmbut not hot. Travis -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237636#237636


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    Time: 06:09:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: was V-Speed question and placard question - now Compass
    Card
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    tell your DAR to check the FARs, a compass correction card is not required on your type of experimental aircraft. David Maint. and Manuf. DAR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237640#237640


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    Time: 06:52:27 AM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    my king fox tires wore out in a very short time but- everyone liked them -- malcolm ,michigan mod 2 583 sport pilot --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote: From: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires [quote="taildragon(at)msn.com"]- Tom, - They look great. How do they handle gravel, thorns, sharp rocks, gopher- holes, etc. experienced on off airport landings? - Roger - - >- - --- Roger, I only have three of the Douglas wheels so have been waiting for the Nancos to wear out before I mount the other King Fox on the rim.- I may have to go ahead and switch them over and try out some off airport this sum mer. Do not archive -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237630#237630 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:52:38 AM PST US
    From: "Marwynne Kuhn" <marwynne@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo Gasoline Company Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. I will not use it... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk To: kitfox list Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Citgo sea and snow oil Hi all, I gave the local bulk oil dealer a call today, and he has this oil in a 4 gallon case for $51.25. That works out to $12.81 a gallon or $3.20 a quart. Last time I looked at the Pennsoil for aircooled engines all they had was 8 oz bottles and they wanted $1.99 each which equals $7.96 per quart. I guess I know where I'm getting my oil from next time I'm in town. Thanks for the tip Lenni! Take care all, Jim Chuk Avids Kitfox 4 Mn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out.


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    Time: 07:17:12 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    Haven't been in a Citgo station since Chavez's statement. Same reason. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Marwynne Kuhn To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Citgo sea and snow oil Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo Gasoline Company Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. I will not use it... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk To: kitfox list Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Citgo sea and snow oil Hi all, I gave the local bulk oil dealer a call today, and he has this oil in a 4 gallon case for $51.25. That works out to $12.81 a gallon or $3.20 a quart. Last time I looked at the Pennsoil for aircooled engines all they had was 8 oz bottles and they wanted $1.99 each which equals $7.96 per quart. I guess I know where I'm getting my oil from next time I'm in town. Thanks for the tip Lenni! Take care all, Jim Chuk Avids Kitfox 4 Mn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 04/03/09 17:54:00


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    Time: 07:29:06 AM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    my GA airport- vowed to do the same to ultralights when i came along but they found they had awakened a sleeping giant malcolm ,Michigan mod 2 582 sport pilot --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Marwynne Kuhn <marwynne@windstream.net> wrote: From: Marwynne Kuhn <marwynne@windstream.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Citgo sea and snow oil =0A=0A =0A#yiv1856843414 .hmmessage P {=0APADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0p x;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}=0A#yiv1856843414 {=0AFONT -SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;}=0A=0A=0AVenezuela government is sole owner of Citgo Gasoline =0ACompany Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to b ring down =0Athe U.S. government.=0A-=0A-=0AI will not use it...- =0A =0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: =0A Jim_and_Lucy =0A Chuk =0A To: kitfox list =0A Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:46 =0APM=0A Subje ct: Kitfox-List: Citgo sea and snow =0A oil=0A Hi all,- I gave the local bulk oil dealer a call today, =0A and he has t his oil in a 4 gallon case for $51.25.- That works out to =0A $12.81 a g allon or $3.20 a quart.- Last time I looked at the Pennsoil for =0A airc ooled engines all they had was 8 oz bottles and they wanted $1.99 each =0A which equals $7.96 per quart.- I guess- I know where I'm getting my =0A oil from next time I'm in town.- Thanks for the tip Lenni!-- =0A Take care all,- Jim Chuk- Avids- Kitfox 4- Mn =0A =0A Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:34:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    Hey Guy... now you see why I kept my mouth shut... For what it is worth, they also make yamalube and many other oils that you probably use and don't know it. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237657#237657


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    Time: 08:38:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    We have pounded them off pavement, grass, rock, snow, sand and gravel. No issues with them to date. I thought they were holding up much better than the ground off ATV tires that were originally supplied. There are a few scuff marks from the pavement, but that is it. One must be cautious. Big tires with low inflation pressure on pavement can get to be a hand full very quickly. If all you fly off of is pavement, I would not recommend the KF tires. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237658#237658


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    Time: 09:03:22 AM PST US
    From: "Marwynne Kuhn" <marwynne@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    I will not knowingly purchase any CITGO products.. I want to comment on the Pennzoil Issue. I flew a Challenger 2 with a Rotax 503 . I mixed the oil and gas carefully to make sure it was in solution completely before putting in my plane. I had some carbon issues, but nothing like was described in some other email. I have seen people put a pint of Pennzoil in the fuel tank and then add fuel. This did not mix the oil and gas properly. my 2 cents and today it isn't worth much. Marwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil > > Hey Guy... now you see why I kept my mouth shut... > > For what it is worth, they also make yamalube and many other oils that you > probably use and don't know it. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237657#237657 > > >


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    Time: 09:15:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    From: "rawheels" <rawheels@yahoo.com>
    akflyer wrote: > Hey Guy... now you see why I kept my mouth shut... Interesting viewpoint on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp -------- Ryan Wheeler Kitfox IV-1200 Indianapolis, IN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237671#237671


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    Time: 09:55:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Dick Maddux wrote: > > > I assume the little holes in them are wear holes.(ie: when the rubber gets to the bottom of the holes, chuck them) > > I always thought that is what the nylon cords were for, I usually throw away a tire until I can see them ;) Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237685#237685


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    Time: 10:09:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Master Solenoid Hot to Touch
    From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
    Thanks for the input. I'll have to go back through my receipts but I'm sure that the solenoid came from Aircraft Spruce as a continuous duty model. Cheers Ken -------- Ken Potter Model II, No. 483 Rotax 582, C-Box, 98% Complete C-FJKP (marks reserved) Lanark, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237687#237687


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    Time: 10:11:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Near disaster
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Lynn, I am guessing that the Jabiru engine handles the lead in 100 LL better than the Rotax 912 does ? Do you have any lead issues or increased maintenance with the Jabriru 2200 when using 100 LL ? The increased maintenance list and drawbacks to using 100 LL in the 912 is quite long :( Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237688#237688


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    Time: 01:05:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Near disaster
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Mike, The Jabiru engine has lead issues just like all aircraft that use 100LL. The Rotax gets a little extra attention because it has a gearbox, too. Maint. schedules all have to take into account the lead build up and change oil, plugs and maint. accordingly. Anyone using 100LL ought to be using something like Decalin to help keep the lead build up to a minimum. You can carry Decalin in the cabin and does not have the harsher chemicals as TCP does. You use 1/2 oz. per 10 gals. You can buy it at Aircraft Spruce. 91 Octane (with or without ethanol) is much less an evil than 100LL. Rotax very soon will have in writing 10% ethanol to be ok in their engines. It already has the 5% in writing and most (no, not all) fuel pumps only test out to 5-7% ethanol. Many people use automotive parts in there kit planes and with a little double checking you may find your fuel system is compatible with ethanol just like your car or motorcycle. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237705#237705


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    Time: 01:52:01 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Near disaster
    I buy my Decalin from http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/. I try to shop there first so they can stay in business and keep making great planes. Pete Shop Kitfox first. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Near disaster > > Hi Mike, > > The Jabiru engine has lead issues just like all aircraft that use 100LL. > The Rotax gets a little extra attention because it has a gearbox, too. > Maint. schedules all have to take into account the lead build up and > change oil, plugs and maint. accordingly. Anyone using 100LL ought to be > using something like Decalin to help keep the lead build up to a minimum. > You can carry Decalin in the cabin and does not have the harsher chemicals > as TCP does. You use 1/2 oz. per 10 gals. You can buy it at Aircraft > Spruce. > 91 Octane (with or without ethanol) is much less an evil than 100LL. Rotax > very soon will have in writing 10% ethanol to be ok in their engines. It > already has the 5% in writing and most (no, not all) fuel pumps only test > out to 5-7% ethanol. Many people use automotive parts in there kit planes > and with a little double checking you may find your fuel system is > compatible with ethanol just like your car or motorcycle. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Service Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237705#237705 > > >


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    Time: 02:05:13 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil
    And Snake Oil? ;o) Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Citgo sea and snow oil > > Hey Guy... now you see why I kept my mouth shut... > > For what it is worth, they also make yamalube and many other oils that you > probably use and don't know it. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237657#237657 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 17:54:00


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    Time: 05:05:01 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Near disaster
    It handles the lead quite well, but I'd like to use TCP or some other additive, but Jabiru says no. One of these days I'll ask why. When I tore my engine down due to a broken timing gear, I found the rings to be free, but there was some carbon buildup behind the rings, but based on my experience rebuilding auto engines (apples and oranges?), it wasn't out of the ordinary. I've never found the lead to be a problem with the spark plugs. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 623.2 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:11 PM, JetPilot wrote: > > Lynn, > > I am guessing that the Jabiru engine handles the lead in 100 LL > better than the Rotax 912 does ? Do you have any lead issues or > increased maintenance with the Jabriru 2200 when using 100 LL ? > The increased maintenance list and drawbacks to using 100 LL in the > 912 is quite long :( > > Mike > > -------- > &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast > as you could have !!! > > Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237688#237688 > >


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    Time: 05:10:47 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Kitfoxer's are everywhere....off topic
    I attended an EAA workshop today In suburban Detroit (and will tomorrow) on composite construction, and while waiting for my workshop to start, ran into two other Kitfox drivers there. I won't mention their names, just in case they had told their wives they were going bowling and didn't want to own up to spending the grocery money on such a foolish endeavor. : ) Suffice it to say, that we Kitfoxer's stay educated and keep up with the times. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 623.2 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive


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    Time: 05:22:13 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfoxer's are everywhere....off topic
    I should also add that we were 3 Kitfoxer's out of maybe 75 people in attendance...that's a pretty good ratio, I'd say. And I should add that I was able to get home and get an hour's worth of flying in as well. And I should also add....Go State! Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 623.2 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > I attended an EAA workshop today In suburban Detroit (and will > tomorrow) on composite construction, and while waiting for my > workshop to start, ran into two other Kitfox drivers there. I won't > mention their names, just in case they had told their wives they > were going bowling and didn't want to own up to spending the > grocery money on such a foolish endeavor. : ) Suffice it to say, > that we Kitfoxer's stay educated and keep up with the times. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 623.2 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > >


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    Time: 06:36:11 PM PST US
    From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net>
    Subject: Wing Parts
    Guys, Continuing to pick away at my Model 5 Rebuild Project and am looking to purchase about a 3=92 piece of trailing edge and a 3=92 piece of PVC Wing Strut material if anyone has anything laying around, new or used is OK. Thanks, Lloyd Cudnohufsky Model 5 Rotax 912uls IVO IFA Rebuild Northern Mi. Checked by AVG. 4/3/2009 5:54 PM


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    Time: 08:12:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Parts
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    I have a bunch of 3' chunks of the trailing edge that Avid sent me... I ended up getting new 10'ers from ACS so I would not have a bunch of splices. I dont get home till the 14th, but if you dont find any by then, I would be happy to ship it to you free of charge. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237770#237770




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