---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/08/09: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:03 AM - Re: fuel tank venting (dave) 2. 05:04 AM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Catz631@aol.com) 3. 07:03 AM - Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (dave) 4. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank venting (Cudnohufsky's) 5. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Mark Scott) 6. 09:06 AM - Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (dave) 7. 09:11 AM - Re: fuel tank venting (dave) 8. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversion (Michael Gibbs) 9. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Paul Franz - Merlin GT) 10. 11:38 AM - Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (dave) 11. 11:39 AM - Installation of a 912S (Jacques Voynaud) 12. 11:55 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Display (akflyer) 13. 12:06 PM - Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (akflyer) 14. 12:34 PM - Re: Installation of a 912S (Clint Bazzill) 15. 12:52 PM - Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (dave) 16. 01:02 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Display (dave) 17. 02:01 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Display (SkySteve) 18. 03:42 PM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Noel Loveys) 19. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversion (Dave G) 20. 03:50 PM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Noel Loveys) 21. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion (Noel Loveys) 22. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Display (Paul Franz - Merlin GT) 23. 06:47 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Display (akflyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:26 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: fuel tank venting From: "dave" Randy , I am not sure if it is high pressure or not there. I have done tuft testing there and the tufts lift up in front the cap and the rest go around it . I know once I was transferring fuel from wing tanks to dash tank and I overfilled it , the gas was coming out the pitot tube and spraying on the windshield. Nut sure what that tells you other than I am a dunce. I don't think I would want to take a chance on siphoning having a open vent on the cap. > Bob, > That area on top of the cowling ahead of the windshield is a high pressure > area. The pitot vent is not needed there. > > Randy -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238279#238279 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:43 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Well, said Deke ! My dad always used to say "How come there are more horses a&%es then there are horses ? I hope the new guy stays on the list after being personally insulted by junior. Pretty soon it will be all of us. Dick Maddux Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:46 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "dave" Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his youtube profile http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. enuff said . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238305#238305 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:16 AM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: fuel tank venting All, I built a Model 4 XL with a Rotax 503 some years back that had a ten gallon aluminum dash tank that I built and two six gallon wing tanks. Wing tanks had standard fuel caps with pitots and shutoffs at the wing root ribs. They each feed into one of two top ports in the dash tank. Dash tank had a filler cap that protruded up through the cowl and the cap was not vented (No over flow spillage if I overfilled while transferring from my wing tanks). Dash tank had a vent port from the top of the tank to the top port on the right wing tank. Dash tank had a 12 volt float system with a gauge on the dash. I would fly until I was at half tank on the dash tank and then transfer from one wing tank or the other, the amber lines feeding the dash tank ran down each door post so I was able to see the fuel flow. Some times in flight fuel did not want to flow so I would put the plane into a forward slip with that wing high to get it started. I discovered later if I was to transfer some from each tank so the lines were full and then shut off the valves it would begin flowing better once in flight. Lloyd Cudnohufsky Model 5 912ul IVO IFA Rebuild Northern Mi. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:02 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: fuel tank venting Randy , I am not sure if it is high pressure or not there. I have done tuft testing there and the tufts lift up in front the cap and the rest go around it . I know once I was transferring fuel from wing tanks to dash tank and I overfilled it , the gas was coming out the pitot tube and spraying on the windshield. Nut sure what that tells you other than I am a dunce. I don't think I would want to take a chance on siphoning having a open vent on the cap. > Bob, > That area on top of the cowling ahead of the windshield is a high pressure > area. The pitot vent is not needed there. > > Randy -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238279#238279 Checked by AVG. 5:53 PM Checked by AVG. 5:53 PM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "Mark Scott" Dave, where do you see that? I looked on the link you sent and didn't see any of that. ------Original Message------ From: dave Sender: Kitfox list ReplyTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Sent: Apr 8, 2009 10:02 AM Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his youtube profile http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. enuff said . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238305#238305 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:33 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "dave" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2Q3ojeCgI just click more info under his name -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238326#238326 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:05 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: fuel tank venting From: "dave" Lloyd, My poly tank has no vent built into it but I think you need to have a vent somewhere or you could starve for gas. I have a shut off for each with tank so if they both shut off I have no venting at all on dash tank. So it seems necessary to have a vent and in my case the pitot serves the purpose. Dave -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238329#238329 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:11 AM PST US From: Michael Gibbs Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversion Enough already! This kind of thing is both off-topic and irrelevant. If you want to gossip, take it off list. Mike G. Kitfox List Moderator >Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his >youtube profile... ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" On Wed, April 8, 2009 9:04 am, dave wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2Q3ojeCgI > > just click more info under his name That's a list of search tags, nothing more. His videos have trikes in them. And his Spanish speaking wife. In my experience with usenet, maillists, forums, bogs and the like, it usually provokes ill will in one or more people if you take any kind of a potshot at anyone. Pretty often it happens that what was said was incorrect or based on misinterpretation. The old terminology for this dialogue damaging scenario is flame wars. Some people are really skilled at constructive criticism like Deke. Some are always tactful like Lowell or Noel. I've decided these are personally developed skills. I can't do what Deke does but I can contribute some facts now and then. Anyway, best not taking pot shots at people. They could just get embarrassed or even mad and irritated and then we lose them. That's not so good for anyone. BTW, on the two stroke oil issue, many years ago I researched this quite extensively and I seem to recall that at the time, there were approved fully synthetic oils for 100:1 use. I can't remember if that was for premix or automixing. I also seem to recall that the injection rate can be changed by changing oils. that is without making any adjustments to the engine, the mix can change maybe with viscosity. Well, I can't find that info anymore so it might be a wrong recollection. As to Amsoil, whether or not is is any good, the Amway-like marketing scheme turns me off enough that I would never consider those products. I just probably turned the flame gun on myself. :( -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell 425.440.9505 Office "If in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit which the use can at any time yield." --George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796 "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -- Pericles (430 B.C.) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:25 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "dave" Paul , Injection on Rotax is geared and not adjustable. It meters the oil by throttle position. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238356#238356 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:02 AM PST US From: "Jacques Voynaud" Subject: Kitfox-List: Installation of a 912S I know of some list members who swiched from a Rotax 912 to 912 S 100hp engine in a Classic 1V before. Is there any major modifications to the frame or engine mounts or cowling to perform in order to do that? Secondly, is it worthed the the expense in terms of performance? I=92m thinking of taking advantage of Rotax exchange program, wich ends at the end of this month. Jack C-FASJ Classic 1V ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:50 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display From: "akflyer" for anyone intersted in these units, here is a site that has them for $116.95 alot less than I paid for mine a couple years ago. http://www.roguewavemarine.com/store/northstar-fuel-210-f210-pr-12173.html -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238362#238362 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:22 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "akflyer" dave wrote: > Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot > just check his youtube profile > http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott > > Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. > > Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. > > enuff said . To each his own. To attack his wife has just crossed the line. If you have an issue with a particular person, talk to him about it, you bring family in and it turns into an instant Roy D. Mercer moment. I guess he is a bit more forgiving than I am or you would be visited by a large burly Italian guy who would love to show you the back pasture. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238365#238365 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:24 PM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Installation of a 912S I have converted from a 912IUL to a 912ULS in 1999. The only problem with a 912ULS is the forward engine mounts are approx 1/8 to 3/16 inch further f orward. The oil tank is a little higher in the ULS. I used my old tank an d gave the new tank to the new owner. I use slightly different power setti ngs as I have an IVO prop. Performance is great wlith a Model IV. You can call me off line for more info if you desire. Clint Bazzill Model IV-1200 1430 hours. (650) 712-1802 From: Jacques.Voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca Subject: Kitfox-List: Installation of a 912S I know of some list members who swiched from a Rotax 912 to 912 S 100hp eng ine in a Classic 1V before. Is there any major modifications to the frame o r engine mounts or cowling to perform in order to do that? Secondly=2C is i t worthed the the expense in terms of performance? I=92m thinking of taking advantage of Rotax exchange program=2C wich ends at the end of this month. Jack C-FASJ Classic 1V ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:43 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion From: "dave" nice to see this forum still the same . Later. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238370#238370 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:51 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display From: "dave" Fuel flow 117 $ here I got mine about 3 years ago from them and got it overnight to Canada . http://www.boatersland.com/f210.html Good place to do business with -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238371#238371 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:01:15 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display From: "SkySteve" It turned out that mine DID have a direct short in the transducer. I sent it back to Navico (the mfg or importer) in Tulsa, OK and they say they are going to replace it. However, they are out of stock until sometime between April 15-30. Waiting . . . . .[Rolling Eyes] -------- Steve Wilson Huntsville, UT Kitfox Model 1- 85DD 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238372#238372 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:05 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Dave I couldn't find a "more" link. I don't think I can hold it against the guy that he happens to have a nice looking wife. They live in Florida so I don't expect her to dress like an inuit. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his youtube profile http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. enuff said . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238305#238305 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:35 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversion Just curious, what Amsoil are you planning to use? While they do not provide detailed oil use information on their website they do indicate oil usage at 100:1 or richer and most of their 100:1 oils appear to specify 50:1 in premix. I have never seen even the very best 2 stroke oils, synthetic or conventional (mineral) cause problems when used at engine makers specified ratio including very rich 20:1 in an engine with plain bearings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rawheels" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversion > > For anyone who does a future search on this topic. I did get an answer to > the question from a couple of people that sent private messages: > > The answer is no. There is no known way to modify the oil injection system > to run at a non-standard ratio, and not really worth risking it. > > If you are like me, and would like to re-install that system on your > aircraft, you will need to find an appropriate 50:1 oil. Luckily, if > you've made it this far, you already read plenty of good suggestions on > alternatives. Or, you can search for the next post "Great Oil Debate". > > -------- > Ryan Wheeler > Kitfox IV-1200 > Indianapolis, IN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238192#238192 > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:46 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Found the tags... Lots of guys used to use meta tags to try to increase traffic to their sites. I have no idea why any one would want extra traffic unless they were getting paid for banners. Never th4e less it doesn't mean he produces them just that more people may look at his clips hoping to see a little mile high. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his youtube profile http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. enuff said . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238305#238305 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:24 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2Q3ojeCgI You will see his name on the top right side two lines below it click on "more" It's just a bunch of meta tags used to attract searchbots. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Scott Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Dave, where do you see that? I looked on the link you sent and didn't see any of that. ------Original Message------ From: dave Sender: Kitfox list ReplyTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil injection conversionOil injection conversion Sent: Apr 8, 2009 10:02 AM Since you guys want to rattle on about JetPilot just check his youtube profile http://www.youtube.com/user/JetPilott Click on more info under his name and see all the porn and crap he has tagged there. I sure would not post it here. Certainly he has tied in Kitfox with all kinds of pornographic stuff. He must think it doe something for him but to me it makes he wife in the movies look like she from the same porn background. enuff said . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238305#238305 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" On Wed, April 8, 2009 11:55 am, akflyer wrote: > > for anyone intersted in these units, here is a site that has them for $116.95 alot > less than I paid for mine a couple years ago. > > http://www.roguewavemarine.com/store/northstar-fuel-210-f210-pr-12173.html I just had a look and was surprised to read this: # Instant fuel flow: 2.5 to 130 Liters/hour, 1.3 to 36 US gallons/hour I wonder if they can be furnished with a bit lower flow range. What happens at idle? Do you get a zero reading? It would seem to me that the capacity range would be more ideal if it were from 0.1 to 10 gal/hr. I don't know what to do for fuel gauges. The wing tanks I have are aluminum but fairly flat and the are aligned parallel with the bottom of the wing so no float type gauge is going to work especially in the top or bottom quarter of the tank and in between it would be so non-linear that wouldn't work. I could put site glasses on them but that would mean disconnecting the lines to them to remove my wings. The other alternative is to use the full immersion type sensor that you can calibrate but that would cost %500/tank or more. So I considering using just one of these flow sensors, keeping track of fill points. might be a problem is you just add some fuel but don't fill the tanks. Not sure if you could reset the gauge to a particular setting. Must be more than one of you has thought through this problem. Even if you haven't finished the process, your ideas so far would be appreciated. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell "Every child in America should be acquainted with his own country. He should read books that furnish him with ideas that will be useful to him in life and practice. As soon as he opens his lips, he should rehearse the history of his own country." -- Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America, 1788 "To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." -- Thomas Jefferson ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:44 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display From: "akflyer" at 1600 rpm idle it shows a steady .5 GPH. It will cover you for all that you need in the plane. As with any instrument, it will have a range that it is most accurate in, but lets be realistic, you will probably start up and idle for 5 minutes or so till she's warm, then you will be well above the the range specified for flight, then maybe 5 or 6 minutes of idle time to land and taxi in and shut down. The fuel burned in that small amount of time is not really going to affect you measurements, as you reset the fuel on board each time you fill up or put gas in (at least I do) and that means for me every flight. I don't fill the tanks to the brim when I am planning a short flight of say an hour. Why have 6 hrs of fuel on board. I put in what I need, and a little reserve for each flight. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238417#238417 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.