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1. 03:36 AM - fuel tank grounding (bob noffs)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: Great Oil Debate (dave)
3. 04:27 AM - Re: Re: Great Oil Debate (fox5flyer)
4. 04:40 AM - Re: Great Oil Debate (dave)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Great Oil Debate (Noel Loveys)
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| Subject: | fuel tank grounding |
hi all,
a friend and i have been talking about grounding tanks. some testing had
showed on his plane the anodized coating of fittings had prevented the metal
fuel lines from completing the ground to a tank. he fitted all his tanks
with grounding wires and the owner of an antique certified aircraft from a
nearby hangar stopped by. they then went to that aircraft and checked and NO
GROUND. in the past 2 yrs. i have seen a plane at my airport on fire because
of static at the fuel pump. check your grounds!
bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: Great Oil Debate |
Ryan,
I have mentioned in the past posts about Shell Advance oil we have available her
in Canada. As well as Csstrol super 2 stroke oil that you might find at Walmart.
? Read the labels, you want API- TC rating. It can be TCW3 rated as well
at API.tc but not just TCW3 as that is outboard oil and not to be used. You
see outboard engines have a constant supply of water at ? 32 F to 90F all the
time. Heck our thermostats do not even open untill 135F . 582s like 160 to
176 F.
Regardless , it remains the same API-TC. I don;t see Amsoil there . I can only
tell you that I have no issues with what I use nor any of my locals.
Forget about the 100 to 1 stuff. Oil injection is the leanest you want to go.
It is automatic. If you doing aerobatics and doing neg Gs then i would consider
pre mix.
Hope this helps,
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| Subject: | Re: Great Oil Debate |
Good post, thanks.
Deke
do not archive
>
> How about the oils listed in Rotax SI-2ST-008 (2-cycle)? Anybody use
> those?
>
> To read go to http://www.rotax-owner.com/
>
> Click the "Information Service Bulletins" button. (lower left)
>
> On next page, click the "Information Service Bulletins" button, again.
>
> Click the "All 2 (or 4) stroke Service Instruction Documents" and then the
> "Search" button.
>
> You can sign-in as a guest if the site asks.
>
> This service information was generated recently so the bulletins are
> located at the end of the list.
>
> 2-cycle number is SI-2ST-008
> 4-cycle numbers are SI912-016 and SI914-019
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238740#238740
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| Subject: | Re: Great Oil Debate |
Deke, I put this up the other day.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238595#238595
I just edited it - adding 503 /582 engines have the same approval for the use
of ethanol fuel .
That doc that Ryan posted covers that.
This might be the link here
http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/serviceinfo/si-2st-008.pdf
So just make sure the restof your fuel system can handle it . My Tanks are 1992-93
tanks with NO KREEM and I have run over 2000 gallons of ethanol gas through
them and had NO issues YET.
My only beef on Ethanol Gas is you get less power and use more fuel .SO FAR .
Fox5flyer wrote:
> Good post, thanks.
> Deke
> do not archive
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> > How about the oils listed in Rotax SI-2ST-008 (2-cycle)? Anybody use
> > those?
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> > To read go to http://www.rotax-owner.com/
> >
> > Click the "Information Service Bulletins" button. (lower left)
> >
> > On next page, click the "Information Service Bulletins" button, again.
> >
> > Click the "All 2 (or 4) stroke Service Instruction Documents" and then the
> > "Search" button.
> >
> > You can sign-in as a guest if the site asks.
> >
> > This service information was generated recently so the bulletins are
> > located at the end of the list.
> >
> > 2-cycle number is SI-2ST-008
> > 4-cycle numbers are SI912-016 and SI914-019
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> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 38740#238740
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| Subject: | Re: Great Oil Debate |
You have to be very careful when it comes to the API ratings... API-TC
rated and API-TC certified are two completely different animals.
The first one says manufacturer warrants the oil to pass some of the API
specs. Usually the container will say something like, "Meets or exceeds
API-TC specifications.
The other is actually passed by API and is very expensive to obtain. On
that container the label will say API-TC certified.
Many oil manufacturers walk the legal tightrope on this issue because the
API certification is difficult and expensive to obtain. I have been to one
shop where they had several brands and blends of two stroke oil. Almost
every bottle advertised API-TC, not to mention TCW-3. But only one,
surprisingly not the most expensive, said API-TC certified and actually
carried the API seal. I guess when it comes to oil we should follow the
grocery shopping credo and read the labels carefully.
Amazing to be discussing oils this late in the winter when we all should be
digging our planes out of the drifts and getting ready to fly :-)
Noel
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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Great Oil Debate
occom wrote:
> Just curious, what Amsoil are you planning to use? While they do not
provide
> detailed oil use information on their website they do indicate oil usage
at
> 100:1 or richer and most of their 100:1 oils appear to specify 50:1 in
> premix
Occom,
They are all API-TC certified, but I have been using the Amsoil Saber Pro
100:1. The idea was that it was twice as expensive as the Pennzoil, but you
used half as much. When I get back to 50:1 for the oil injection, I could
use the same or go to the HP or Intercepter which are designed as 50:1, but
they are almost the same price. That being said, if I am going to pay the
extra money (which I will do, since I do not care for the Pennzoil), then I
might as well look at the others mentioned (XPS, Citgo, etc) since they
would now be equal in price or even cheaper per gallon.
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