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1. 04:30 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (fox5flyer)
2. 04:37 AM - Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (fox5flyer)
3. 04:42 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (fox5flyer)
4. 04:56 AM - Re: Fw: Gasoline - no ethanol (bjones@dmv.com)
5. 05:36 AM - Fuel pressure sensor (Dorsal)
6. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (Lynn Matteson)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank grounding (Lynn Matteson)
8. 09:06 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sensor (Roger Lee)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (akflyer)
10. 09:17 AM - Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (akflyer)
11. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank grounding (Bob Brennan)
12. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank grounding (fox5flyer)
13. 10:34 AM - Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (dave)
14. 10:37 AM - Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (dave)
15. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (Lynn Matteson)
16. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: fuel tank grounding (Lynn Matteson)
17. 02:30 PM - Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Lynn Matteson)
18. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior (Joe & Jan Connell)
19. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: fuel tank grounding (Guy Buchanan)
20. 04:42 PM - Re: Inverted Carbs, was: Great Oil Debate (Boilermaker2000)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Exactly. It was just the design of the airplane and there were probably
complaints from the Cessna drivers about it being difficult to fly, which it
really wasn't once one found those two things near the floor and put one's
feet on them. The larger fin helped, but was only a band aid. Changing the
flaperon mixing on the IV to reduce the adverse yaw did a lot to smooth
things out (IMHO). I used to fly around in my II and wonder if I could get
it back into my farm strip if I'd lost all rudder control, but never did
because I couldn't even get it lined up on final. To this day I'm not sure
that I could have done it. Probably could get into a larger strip if I had
half of a state to turn the thing. Has anybody tried to fly a pattern and
land a I or II without any rudder input?
As for the funny, I knew that. As for agreeing, I guess I have my flaws
too... I'm smiling!
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
> Was not ment to be anything other than a funny... I cracked myself up
> with it LOL.
>
> Thinking just a touch more on the subject, the flaperon issue is dealing
> with nothing more than adverse yaw. The larger fin adds to yaw stability,
> but does not alleviate the flaperons from being the culprit. It is an
> inherent design..uhhh... not really a flaw, but a "characteristic".
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Isn't that what I said? Well, if I didn't, it's what I meant. :-)
D
do not archive
> Deke - maybe this is a matter of semantics but adverse yaw is not this.
> Adverse yaw is
> the amount of rudder input you have to supply to compensate for increased
> drag on the
> outboard wing in a turn. If it were frictionless, then a coordinated turn
> with
> ailerons would need no rudder input.
>
> If I'm understanding correctly, what is happening is that there is no
> apparent
> restoring force to return the rudder to a neutral position and the plan
> will happily
> fly along in a skid without any applied force to the rudder.
>
> --
> Paul A. Franz
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Gawd, I hate to agree again, but I do.
Is that recipe something similar to the Kickapoo Joy Juice produced down in
these parts?
Oh, and why put "do not archive" in your posts, even when occasionally they
have valid information?
:-)
Deke
do not archive
>
> The new mixer if you give it right roll input the right flaperon goes up
> twice as much as the left one goes down, making less drag on the left
> side, therefore, you need less right rudder input.
>
> If I lost you on that one, you will need more than one bottle of snakeoil.
> I am having a batch brewed up in high hills of kentucky that will be 190
> to 200 proof, so please, dont do shots of it, it is for "sipping" only!
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238988#238988
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Gasoline - no ethanol |
Gasland (Sunuco as I recall) in Tavanier in the Florida Keys still sells
ethanol free auto gas of all three grades and another road side station
farther down route 1 sells ethonol free premium.
Musser's Market at 35 Friendly Drive, Quarryville, Pa 17566(South East Pa)
advertises auto gas without ethanol. (As of 4-12-2009)
BJ
N154K
Hi Folks,
> This in from a Kitfoxer in Michigan. I am posting for those who don't
> know. Sounds good. Larry
> Huntley
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brocke, Rod
> To: Larry Huntley
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 5:24 PM
> Subject: Gasoline - no ethanol
>
>
> I found a source of gasoline without ethanol here in Bay City. I found out
> that many old boats have fiberglass tanks similar to our planes, in that
> they are adversely affected by ethanol (ethyl alcohol). For this reason,
> some marinas still carry straight gas. This area has a lot of boat
> activity with its proximity to Saginaw Bay and I found a local marina that
> carries straight gasoline w/o ethanol. The cost is $2.28/gal., which is
> less than half the price of 100LL at James Clements!
>
>
> You may want to pass this tip on to your Kitfox group next time you are
> blogging there.
>
>
> Rod
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 04/13/09 05:51:00
>
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| Subject: | Fuel pressure sensor |
Looking for some suggestions on the best way to install and plumb a fuel pressure
sensor on my 912s feeding a Dynon D10a. Unless I am missing something (which
is more than likely) I need a T fitting with a restrictor and a line back to
the sensor rigged to the engine mount.
Any thoughts or comments appreciated.
Dorsal
S7 912uls
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Hey Snakeman, I'm gonna be traveling over those hills in Kentuk on my
way (hopefully) to Sun 'n' Fun, and I'd appreciate it if I didn't
have to fly through the smoke. So along about Fri, Sat, or Sun, tell
'em to turn down the heat on the stills and watch for an orange plane
flyin' over, then after that it's ok to crank 'em back up
again....thanks. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:14 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
> If I lost you on that one, you will need more than one bottle of
> snakeoil. I am having a batch brewed up in high hills of kentucky
> that will be 190 to 200 proof, so please, dont do shots of it, it
> is for "sipping" only!
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238988#238988
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank grounding |
I would think so, but I'm the first guy to throw hands in the air and
surrender when it comes to electrics. I'd be absolutely certain that
grounding at the neck would be the best of all worlds, though.
Wait just a minute......maybe if there was a charge built up on the
plane, and you attach a ground to the neck, will an arc jump to the
neck? And if you've got the cap off...can't see how you'd clamp onto
it if the cap WASN'T off.....BOOM?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Weiss Richard wrote:
> Lynn,
>
> I really like what you did, but since my Fox is already covered, I
> just take the ground wire from the pump station and clip it to the
> metal filler. All we can protect is an arcing across the tank
> inlet anyway. Won't that work?
>
> Rick Weiss
> N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
> SkyStar S/N 1
> Port Orange, FL
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
>> I can offer what I did on my plane during the building. I soldered
>> a 1/4" wide tinned and braided copper strap to the filler neck,
>> ran it back and across to the rear spar, and attached it to the
>> rear spar mounting bolt. I covered the strap with finishing tape.
>> <100_1289.jpg><100_1286.jpg>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Status: flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:53 AM, JetPilot wrote:
>>
>>> <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> icubob(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>>> hi all,
>>>> a friend and i have been talking about grounding tanks. some
>>>> testing had showed on his plane the anodized coating of fittings
>>>> had prevented the metal fuel lines from completing the ground to
>>>> a tank. he fitted all his tanks with grounding wires
>>>
>>>
>>> On my Kitfox, I have fiberglass tanks with rubber fuel hoses, so
>>> grounding the outside of the tank itself would not do anything,
>>> it would take a wire or piece of metal going into the fuel tank
>>> to make an effective ground. Can you elaborate a little more on
>>> the grounding setup you are proposing for Kitfoxes ?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --------
>>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
>>> as you could have !!!
>>>
>>> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238918#238918
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure sensor |
Dorsal,
The fuel pressure sensor location is on the cross over tube where the main fuel
line is and the return fuel line connect with the banjo nut. It is a clamp on
fitting with ports. They have a fitting that will allow you to put the fuel pressure
sensor on the top with a banjo bolt and then underneath use a double banjo
bolt for the other lines. If you can find in your area a SLSA with a Dynon
installation you can look and see exactly how they did it because most SLSA's
are set up this way. It is not a hard install. You can install the sender right
at this spot directly or use some tubing and mount it off the engine away
from the vibration. This is allowed by Rotax. If you use some tubing for a remote
mount put a bing carb jet in the line and it will steady out the reading on
the panel. If I can remember I will take a pic of mine and post it.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net wrote:
> At 2:41 PM -0700 4/13/09, akflyer wrote:
>
> > someone else want to take a shot at this one LOL.
> >
> >
>
> Sure, I will. Leanard, you're wrong. :-)
>
> The model 1, 2, and 3 mixers were linear, both flaperons moving the
> same amount. The adverse yaw comes from the increase in lift (and
> therefore drag) being generated by the wing with the flaperon
> deflected downward. This drag on the outboard wing cause the nose to
> try to move away from the direction of the turn.
>
> On the model 4 (and all subsequent models) they changed the mixer so
> that the upward-moving flaperon moves twice as far as the one going
> down on the other side. They called this the "differential flaperon
> mixer" and, as I recall, it was quite the selling point when I
> visited both the Denney and Avid factories in 1992. While the drag
> still increases on the downward deflected flaperon, it is now
> countered by the increased drag of the extra deflection of the
> inboard flaperon, reducing the adverse yaw.
>
> At 2:41 PM -0700 4/13/09, akflyer wrote:
>
> > NO. I, II and III have 2:1 going the wrong way from the factory.
> >
> >
>
> To make the downward-moving flaperon move twice as far would be
> pointless--and Dean Wilson is a very smart guy.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
> Phoenix, AZ
well by golly it is not the first time. I had talked to Mr. Stoner and he is the
one who told me he did the math, and changed the mixer so it would have the
correct differential. I can tell you this much. On my avid, when I changed
to the new F7a mixer arms, it takes a whole lot less rudder to coordinate turns.
Even if it was a 1:1 the rest of my statements are still true in regards to
the drag of the down flaperon pulling the nose to that side and creating the
adverse yaw.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Lynn Matteson wrote:
> Hey Snakeman, I'm gonna be traveling over those hills in Kentuk on my
> way (hopefully) to Sun 'n' Fun, and I'd appreciate it if I didn't
> have to fly through the smoke. So along about Fri, Sat, or Sun, tell
> 'em to turn down the heat on the stills and watch for an orange plane
> flyin' over, then after that it's ok to crank 'em back up
> again....thanks. : )
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Status: flying
> do not archive
>
>
Your scared of a little octane boosting vapor cloud?
Them boys wont listen to me, they will just keep right on abrewin. You want want
to re-think your flight path.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank grounding |
I'm good at electrics, I are a engineer. According to some published
regulations:
"All aircraft shall be fueled and defueled in accordance with the bonding
ground procedures
outlined in the applicable fire codes including NFPA 407 2-3.4. In general,
all fueling
equipment and aircraft shall be electrically bonded and grounded prior to
and during fueling
and defueling activities. All bonding connections shall be maintained until
final completion
of the fueling or defueling operation. Failure to bond correctly can easily
lead to fire and
explosion. It is incumbent on all fueling operators to be trained on proper
procedures and to
perform bonding operations correctly."
So if a fueling vehicle bonds to a ground point on your aircraft it would
behoove you to make sure any metal at the filling inlet(s) are also grounded
to that point. Otherwise KA-BOOM! (maybe). All-metal aircraft are pretty
safe, all-wood and fabric and fibreglass tanks are fairly safe, fabric with
metal spars and metal tanks etc need careful grounding.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: 14 April 2009 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: fuel tank grounding
I would think so, but I'm the first guy to throw hands in the air and
surrender when it comes to electrics. I'd be absolutely certain that
grounding at the neck would be the best of all worlds, though.
Wait just a minute......maybe if there was a charge built up on the
plane, and you attach a ground to the neck, will an arc jump to the
neck? And if you've got the cap off...can't see how you'd clamp onto
it if the cap WASN'T off.....BOOM?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Weiss Richard wrote:
> Lynn,
>
> I really like what you did, but since my Fox is already covered, I
> just take the ground wire from the pump station and clip it to the
> metal filler. All we can protect is an arcing across the tank
> inlet anyway. Won't that work?
>
> Rick Weiss
> N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
> SkyStar S/N 1
> Port Orange, FL
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
>> I can offer what I did on my plane during the building. I soldered
>> a 1/4" wide tinned and braided copper strap to the filler neck,
>> ran it back and across to the rear spar, and attached it to the
>> rear spar mounting bolt. I covered the strap with finishing tape.
>> <100_1289.jpg><100_1286.jpg>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Status: flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:53 AM, JetPilot wrote:
>>
>>> <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> icubob(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>>> hi all,
>>>> a friend and i have been talking about grounding tanks. some
>>>> testing had showed on his plane the anodized coating of fittings
>>>> had prevented the metal fuel lines from completing the ground to
>>>> a tank. he fitted all his tanks with grounding wires
>>>
>>>
>>> On my Kitfox, I have fiberglass tanks with rubber fuel hoses, so
>>> grounding the outside of the tank itself would not do anything,
>>> it would take a wire or piece of metal going into the fuel tank
>>> to make an effective ground. Can you elaborate a little more on
>>> the grounding setup you are proposing for Kitfoxes ?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --------
>>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
>>> as you could have !!!
>>>
>>> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238918#238918
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank grounding |
Uh, Lynn, wouldn't just the act of taking off the cap with your bare hands
release any built up charge at the tank? Then again, whaddoIknow. This
whole thing seems way over blown to me.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
do not archive
>
> I would think so, but I'm the first guy to throw hands in the air and
> surrender when it comes to electrics. I'd be absolutely certain that
> grounding at the neck would be the best of all worlds, though.
>
> Wait just a minute......maybe if there was a charge built up on the
> plane, and you attach a ground to the neck, will an arc jump to the neck?
> And if you've got the cap off...can't see how you'd clamp onto it if the
> cap WASN'T off.....BOOM?
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Status: flying
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Weiss Richard wrote:
>
>> Lynn,
>>
>> I really like what you did, but since my Fox is already covered, I just
>> take the ground wire from the pump station and clip it to the metal
>> filler. All we can protect is an arcing across the tank inlet anyway.
>> Won't that work?
>>
>> Rick Weiss
>> N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
>> SkyStar S/N 1
>> Port Orange, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>>
>>> I can offer what I did on my plane during the building. I soldered a
>>> 1/4" wide tinned and braided copper strap to the filler neck, ran it
>>> back and across to the rear spar, and attached it to the rear spar
>>> mounting bolt. I covered the strap with finishing tape.
>>> <100_1289.jpg><100_1286.jpg>
>>>
>>> Lynn Matteson
>>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
>>> Sensenich 62x46
>>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>>> Status: flying
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:53 AM, JetPilot wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> icubob(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> hi all,
>>>>> a friend and i have been talking about grounding tanks. some
>>>>> testing had showed on his plane the anodized coating of fittings had
>>>>> prevented the metal fuel lines from completing the ground to a tank.
>>>>> he fitted all his tanks with grounding wires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On my Kitfox, I have fiberglass tanks with rubber fuel hoses, so
>>>> grounding the outside of the tank itself would not do anything, it
>>>> would take a wire or piece of metal going into the fuel tank to make
>>>> an effective ground. Can you elaborate a little more on the grounding
>>>> setup you are proposing for Kitfoxes ?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as
>>>> you could have !!!
>>>>
>>>> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238918#238918
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
I had always thought that the models 1 to 3 had 1 to 1 with no differential
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dave
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 991
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List:Stall speed Reply
with quote Edit/Delete this post
Michel,
The Model 1, 2 and 3 used totally different flapperon mixer controls and
you have no differential . There is a possiblity of aileron reversal "I
think" on the PRE IV models. But maybe someone else could comment.
I have a model IV and i have over 30 down deflection. I know how to use
flaps and they are an excellent attribute to my Model IV with over 20
degree down on Take offs .
That being said , over 20 degrees is pretty well useless on landings.
I am open for comments but please don't tell me they are unsafe this way .
Full flaps over 20 degrees are totally safe if you know how to use them .
Dave
But then John Stoner thought otherwise
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16319
dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Aileron Differential Reply
with quote
Aileron differential on a stock Model III is about 1 1/2 to 1 REVERSE differential.
Furthermore this topic came up last year one year ago to the date !! wow Impeccable
!!
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=42175
Some good reading there ,Comparing the Model IV Kitfxo to a Avid Model IV . Well
I have flown both and they are totally different. Avids use no differential
either -- they had a mod f7 change and corrected that to some degree.
Want to start a discussion the the benefits of using more than 15 degrees of Flapperons
on a MOdel IV ? LOL
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
more food for yah
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=34764
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
I'm already steerin' clear of the mountains...uh cain't steer cleer
of the whole state.....jeez, I'm startin' to talk and spell lik I'm
already there! Apologies to all of the Southern folks...just tryin'
to lighten the air some. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
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On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:16 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
>
> Lynn Matteson wrote:
>> Hey Snakeman, I'm gonna be traveling over those hills in Kentuk on my
>> way (hopefully) to Sun 'n' Fun, and I'd appreciate it if I didn't
>> have to fly through the smoke. So along about Fri, Sat, or Sun, tell
>> 'em to turn down the heat on the stills and watch for an orange plane
>> flyin' over, then after that it's ok to crank 'em back up
>> again....thanks. : )
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Status: flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
> Your scared of a little octane boosting vapor cloud?
>
> Them boys wont listen to me, they will just keep right on abrewin.
> You want want to re-think your flight path.
>
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> Soldotna AK
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> Full Lotus 1260
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>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239117#239117
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank grounding |
"Blown" is the operative word here.....hoping we don't hear it. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
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On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:52 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
>
> Uh, Lynn, wouldn't just the act of taking off the cap with your
> bare hands release any built up charge at the tank? Then again,
> whaddoIknow. This whole thing seems way over blown to me.
> Deke Morisse
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| Subject: | Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City |
To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at
Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy,
campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again this
year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the crowd at
Paradise City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt Camping?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Model II flight behavior |
Guys,
Thanks for all your comments, observations, and humor. I've always
known my model II is rudder driven and have flown it accordingly -- it's
second nature. A number of years ago I flew an orientation ride in
Van's RV-9A in Oregon. The company pilot asked what I had been flying
and I said a Kitfox. He said, "I thought so, you lead with rudder in
the turns!" So rudder input comes automatically.
Should I have a cable, control link, or bell crank fail for the rudder,
I know I will lose yaw control. The plane will not be yaw stable in
normal flight.
Thanks again for the input...
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank grounding |
At 05:17 PM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
>If the tanks were full you
>would have a fire that should be able to be put out by simply covering the
>filler with the gas cap.
I once watched a guy do this with a burning can of white gas. He was
"encouraging" a camp fire and of course the fire climbed the gas to
the can. With the whole top of the can lit he casually stood there
and screwed the top back on, putting the fire out. Brave, drunk, or
stupid, (Or possibly all three!) it worked.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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| Subject: | Re: Inverted Carbs, was: Great Oil Debate |
How about fuel injection like the 600 E-TEC! I'm totally in love with this engine.
Do you think that we could see some "homebuilders" modifying snowmobile
engines for aircraft again? Or, do you think BPM has had enough success with
the aircraft engines that they would be looking into releasing a 2-Stroke E-TEC
UL engine? That would be awesome!
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