---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/15/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:56 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (W Duke) 2. 06:17 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:08 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Aerobatics@aol.com) 4. 07:53 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sensor (Dorsal) 5. 08:33 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Lynn Matteson) 6. 09:52 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Aerobatics@aol.com) 7. 10:38 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (W Duke) 8. 10:50 AM - 582 Engine firewall forward parts (Lowell Fitt) 9. 11:38 AM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Aerobatics@aol.com) 10. 05:33 PM - Re: 582 Engine firewall forward parts (Dave G) 11. 05:48 PM - Re: 582 Engine firewall forward parts (Dave G) 12. 06:53 PM - Brake Bleeder (Boilermaker2000) 13. 07:23 PM - Re: Brake Bleeder (Bob Brennan) 14. 07:58 PM - Re: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City (Dwight Purdy) 15. 10:48 PM - Re: Brake Bleeder (Cwehner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:27 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the Paradise ci ty guys were flying.- The crowd was more lean than usual at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very wet as you alluded to.- We are going-down on Friday.-- We are taking a white and yellow Maul e (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuil t camping or overnight camping. Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 Dublin, GA --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy, campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again this year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the crowd at Paradis e City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:34 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Thanks for the info, Maxwell. I'm hoping to leave here on Fri, for a 2-day trip there. I'm more inclined to camp in the Homebuilt area, but it sounds like the Paradise area would be easier to get into. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:55 AM, W Duke wrote: > It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the > Paradise city guys were flying. The crowd was more lean than usual > at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very > wet as you alluded to. We are going down on Friday. We are > taking a white and yellow Maule (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and > white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuilt camping or overnight > camping. > > Maxwell Duke > S6/TD/IO240 > Dublin, GA > > --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:28 PM > > To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at > Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy, > campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again > this year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the > crowd at Paradise City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt > Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru > 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire > ignition system Status: flying do not archive > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:23 AM PST US From: Aerobatics@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Will be there too! Dave In a message dated 4/15/2009 8:18:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net writes: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson Thanks for the info, Maxwell. I'm hoping to leave here on Fri, for a 2-day trip there. I'm more inclined to camp in the Homebuilt area, but it sounds like the Paradise area would be easier to get into. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:55 AM, W Duke wrote: > It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the > Paradise city guys were flying. The crowd was more lean than usual > at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very > wet as you alluded to. We are going down on Friday. We are > taking a white and yellow Maule (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and > white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuilt camping or overnight > camping. > > Maxwell Duke > S6/TD/IO240 > Dublin, GA > > --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:28 PM > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson > To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at > Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy, > campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again > this year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the > crowd at Paradise City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt > Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru > 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire > ignition system Status: flying do not archive > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== **************Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL Shopping. (http://shopping.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntinstor00000001) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:19 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel pressure sensor From: "Dorsal" Thanks for the feedback, pics would be great. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239313#239313 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:35 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Where are you coming from, Dave? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Aerobatics@aol.com wrote: > Will be there too! > > Dave > > In a message dated 4/15/2009 8:18:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > lynnmatt@jps.net writes: > > Thanks for the info, Maxwell. I'm hoping to leave here on Fri, for a > 2-day trip there. I'm more inclined to camp in the Homebuilt area, > but it sounds like the Paradise area would be easier to get into. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:55 AM, W Duke wrote: > > > It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the > > Paradise city guys were flying. The crowd was more lean than usual > > at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very > > wet as you alluded to. We are going down on Friday. We are > > taking a white and yellow Maule (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and > > white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuilt camping or overnight > > camping. > > > > Maxwell Duke > > S6/TD/IO240 > > Dublin, GA > > > > --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > From: Lynn Matteson > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:28 PM > > > > To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at > > Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy, > > campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again > > this year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the > > crowd at Paradise City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt > > Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru > > 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire > > ignition system Status: flying do not archive > > > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > > > ====================================================================== > ========================== the ties Day > ================================================ - > MATRONICS WEB FORUMS > ================================================ - List > Contribution Web Site sp; > ================================================== > > > Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL > Shopping. _- > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:46 AM PST US From: Aerobatics@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Will be there the duration working....:-) flying down Sunday returning Monday the 27th In a message dated 4/15/2009 10:34:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net writes: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson Where are you coming from, Dave? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Aerobatics@aol.com wrote: > Will be there too! > > Dave > > In a message dated 4/15/2009 8:18:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > lynnmatt@jps.net writes: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson > > Thanks for the info, Maxwell. I'm hoping to leave here on Fri, for a > 2-day trip there. I'm more inclined to camp in the Homebuilt area, > but it sounds like the Paradise area would be easier to get into. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:55 AM, W Duke wrote: > > > It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the > > Paradise city guys were flying. The crowd was more lean than usual > > at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very > > wet as you alluded to. We are going down on Friday. We are > > taking a white and yellow Maule (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and > > white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuilt camping or overnight > > camping. > > > > Maxwell Duke > > S6/TD/IO240 > > Dublin, GA > > > > --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > From: Lynn Matteson > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:28 PM > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson > > To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at > > Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the wet, soggy, > > campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again > > this year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the > > crowd at Paradise City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt > > Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru > > 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire > > ignition system Status: flying do not archive > > > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > > > ====================================================================== > ========================== the ties Day > ================================================ - > MATRONICS WEB FORUMS > ================================================ - List > Contribution Web Site sp; > ================================================== > > > Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL > Shopping. _- > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== **************Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL Shopping. (http://shopping.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntinstor00000001) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:29 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City I've been 6 times or so and only had a problem once.- Too many airplanes around the lake.- Usually just go straight on in via "the procedure" whic h is actually pretty straight forward.- If you have done it you know that - If you read it in the notam and are familiar with it you should be fine .- If you have not done it, just study the VFR arrival procedures in the notam.- Not a big deal. - do not archive Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 Dublin, GA --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Thanks for the info, Maxwell. I'm hoping to leave here on Fri, for a 2-day trip there. I'm more inclined to camp in the Homebuilt area, but it sounds like the Paradise area would be easier to get into. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:55 AM, W Duke wrote: > It had dried out some by the time I got there last year and the Paradise city guys were flying. The crowd was more lean than usual at Paradise city but it was late in the week and it had been very wet as you alluded to. We are going down on Friday. We are taking a white and yellow Maule (N143SD) and the Kitfox (red and white N981MS) and plan to be in Homebuilt camping or overni ght camping. > > Maxwell Duke > S6/TD/IO240 > Dublin, GA > > --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Lynn Matteson wrote: > From: Lynn Matteson > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:28 PM > To those of you who went to S 'n' F last year, how was the field at Paradise City? Was it any worse than the rest of the w et, soggy, campgrounds/aircraft parking areas? I'm gonna try the trek again thi s year...maybe the 3rd time WILL be a charm. And how was the crowd at Paradis e City aircraft parking compared with Homebuilt Camping? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 628.1 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electr oair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive > > www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:30 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 Engine firewall forward parts To the list: My perviously started Model IV kit was set up for the 582. I will be going to the 912 so I have some 582 firewall forward parts - brand new ca. 1992 that I would like to make them available to someone that needs them. I have no idea what they are worth, so be fair to yourself as well as to me with any offers. Postage paid by you. Complete engine mount blue powdercoat. Complete muffler system K&N two port air filter Oil Bottle Coolant filler neck Starter shroud for the firewall Firewall blanket Regulator/Rectifier Rotax Choke conversion kit (2) Rotax Inline oil filter There may be more stuff. If so I will post later. Lowell ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:12 AM PST US From: Aerobatics@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City I flew down 2 years ago and a Friday night .... and it was a nightmare... traffic was way backed up .. so I diverted to Zephyrhills fuel was cheap then flew to Winter Haven to stay ...worked out perfect Dave In a message dated 4/15/2009 12:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, n981ms@yahoo.com writes: I've been 6 times or so and only had a problem once. Too many airplanes around the lake. Usually just go straight on in via "the procedure" which is actually pretty straight forward. If you have done it you know that If you read it in the notam and are familiar with it you should be fine. If you have not done it, just study the VFR arrival procedures in the notam. Not a big deal. **************Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL Shopping. (http://shopping.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntinstor00000001) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:49 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 Engine firewall forward parts Hi Lowell, I would like the oil bottle. and possibly the regulator if it is not the little one ( I expect it is). I have only a vague notion of the value of the bottle, can you set a price? I'd like the muffler also but I don't really NEED it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Fitt" Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 Engine firewall forward parts > > To the list: > > My perviously started Model IV kit was set up for the 582. I will be > going to the 912 so I have some 582 firewall forward parts - brand new ca. > 1992 that I would like to make them available to someone that needs them. > I have no idea what they are worth, so be fair to yourself as well as to > me with any offers. Postage paid by you. > > Complete engine mount blue powdercoat. > Complete muffler system > K&N two port air filter > Oil Bottle > Coolant filler neck > Starter shroud for the firewall > Firewall blanket > Regulator/Rectifier > Rotax Choke conversion kit (2) > Rotax Inline oil filter > > There may be more stuff. If so I will post later. > > Lowell > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:03 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 Engine firewall forward parts Sorry list reply should have gone privately, please ignore. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:49 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake Bleeder From: "Boilermaker2000" I'm replacing the brake lines on my model IV. I did a search on the forum and some mentioned using an oil can to pump the fluid in. Can someone explain to me how to do that and what kind of "oil can" your talking about? I assume it's cheaper than the $80 bleeders from ATS or ACS. Or, one of the bleeders in the ACS catalog looks like a bottle with a couple of tubes. It says you hook it up, walk away, and it works in 15 minutes. Seems like maybe you would hook the bottom tube up to the caliper and the top one to the master cylinder. Hang the bottle up high, and gravity would push the 5606 through the system and air back into the bottle. Anyone ever used one of these. Seems like it would be pretty easy to make your own. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239424#239424 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:01 PM PST US From: "Bob Brennan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Brake Bleeder Hi Ryan, I rebuilt my brake cylinders recently and needed to refill and bleed afterwards. I got a cheap "oil can" at Advanced Auto - it's really more of an oil pump, with a trigger that pushes the oil through a bendable metal tube when you pump it. Connect a piece of brake line from the pump tube to the caliper, and another from the fill hole in the brake reservoir (at the top of the system) to an empty can, and pump until all the bubbles are gone. Cheap, easy, and it works. Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boilermaker2000 Sent: 15 April 2009 9:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake Bleeder I'm replacing the brake lines on my model IV. I did a search on the forum and some mentioned using an oil can to pump the fluid in. Can someone explain to me how to do that and what kind of "oil can" your talking about? I assume it's cheaper than the $80 bleeders from ATS or ACS. Or, one of the bleeders in the ACS catalog looks like a bottle with a couple of tubes. It says you hook it up, walk away, and it works in 15 minutes. Seems like maybe you would hook the bottom tube up to the caliper and the top one to the master cylinder. Hang the bottle up high, and gravity would push the 5606 through the system and air back into the bottle. Anyone ever used one of these. Seems like it would be pretty easy to make your own. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239424#239424 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:59 PM PST US From: "Dwight Purdy" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City Have not flown there for some years but this is what I did. I arrived about 10:30 PM. listened to approach and went straight in. The field was not closed as it is at Oshkosh. I did not taxi around but parked on the tarmac till morning,then moved to a camping spot. Actually, there was nothing to stop you from going where you wanted but that would be crazy. Anybody know if the field closes at night now? Dwight Purdy model ll ----- Original Message ----- From: Aerobatics@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun 'n' Fun....Paradise City I flew down 2 years ago and a Friday night .... and it was a nightmare... traffic was way backed up .. so I diverted to Zephyrhills fuel was cheap then flew to Winter Haven to stay ...worked out perfect Dave In a message dated 4/15/2009 12:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, n981ms@yahoo.com writes: I've been 6 times or so and only had a problem once. Too many airplanes around the lake. Usually just go straight on in via "the procedure" which is actually pretty straight forward. If you have done it you know that If you read it in the notam and are familiar with it you should be fine. If you have not done it, just study the VFR arrival procedures in the notam. Not a big deal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new AOL Shopping. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:12 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Brake Bleeder From: "Cwehner" <1cewehner@cox.net> The oil can is a good idea. Heres what I did, seemed to work pretty good and I already had the materials laying around. I had a big syringe that I had gotten from a farmers co-op or southern agriculture. hooked some tubing to it and done. I think All it took was one syringe full. heres a pic, doubt I could sell (it's not pretty) it but it works well. -------- Chris Wehner Tulsa, Oklahoma Kitfox IV, 912, Final push for completion! 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