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1. 12:08 AM - Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Michel Verheughe)
2. 04:07 AM - fuelproof epoxy (bob noffs)
3. 08:08 AM - Fuel Flow Totalizer (George Wells)
4. 08:23 AM - Re: fuelproof epoxy (Guy Buchanan)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
6. 01:19 PM - Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Michel Verheughe)
7. 01:50 PM - Re: fuelproof epoxy (Noel)
8. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Jose M. Toro)
9. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Rexinator)
10. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Noel)
11. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (John W. Hart)
12. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Noel)
13. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (Rexinator)
14. 07:56 PM - medical for private pilot licence (Harry Cieslar)
15. 08:13 PM - Re: Re: (OFF-TOPIC) License (John W. Hart)
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
> From: Noel [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
> I know one commercial helicopter pilot who flew for years after bypass
> surgery.
So do I, here in Norway, Noel. The problem is: They don't want to come forward
with names and especially not, the name of the doctor who gave them the papers
for the license. There is a strong lobby here, to ask no more than the driving
license medical for ultralights, as it is for you and the Sport Pilot license.
But ... administration in a socialist country is like a black hole, it absorbs
everything, even the visible light, and ... it's for ever!
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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hi all,
i am making a float for my fuek gauge. i am looking for a coating for the
foam. i dont remember the type of foam but when i acquired it it was
fuelproof. i am looking for an epoxy that is fuelproof. i dont think kreem
or por 15 would be suitable as the coating should add strength. i can mix in
some flox for added strength. any ideas appreciated.
bob noffs
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow Totalizer |
Have a New in Box Northstar Model F210 - (aka- Naveman) Fuel Flow
totalizer For Sale
$ 110 + Shipping or make bo. -- Contact via E-Mail
Thanks,
georgewells@roadrunner.com
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| Subject: | Re: fuelproof epoxy |
At 04:04 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote:
> i am making a float for my fuek gauge. i am looking for a coating
> for the foam. i dont remember the type of foam but when i acquired
> it it was fuelproof. i am looking for an epoxy that is fuelproof. i
> dont think kreem or por 15 would be suitable as the coating should
> add strength. i can mix in some flox for added strength. any ideas appreciated.
Bob,
This was the only thing I could find in retail quantities:
http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm
In wholesale you're looking for something that
satisfies the UL1316 specification for fiberglass tanks. I found:
http://www.aoc-resins.com/web/site/productinfo/67/C10/
http://www.interplastic.com/app_show.asp?appid=3
If you find some more retail sources let us know. (John
McBean may have a source, since he's making the fuel tanks.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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| Subject: | Re: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Isn't heart disease the current number one killer in The United States and
many other countries? With all that the medical profession now knows about
this disease, I would think that a pilot with known heart disease status
and is medically managed is a much better risk than a pilot who is
undiagnosed at all and therefore an unknown risk. No news is sometimes very bad
news.
I know from personal experience that heart disease can progress for years
without any noticeable indication to the patient or his doctor. --Unless
the doctor is actually looking and looking very carefully for it!
We lost Jeff Puls (_pulsair@mindspring.com_ (mailto:pulsair@mindspring.com)
) a list member and personal friend of mine this year. Jeff was just 57
years old and I suspect undiagnosed and perhaps he was personally unaware of
his heart disease status. The grape vine talk is that he suffered a major
fatal heart attack while at work at his desk. Another grape vine piece of
information is that he was just pronounced airworthy by his doctor in
January.
Heart disease is very sneaky. From what I have learned and experienced,
there are few if any indicators for the average person in average daily
activities. I was lucky enough to feel a sensation in my chest while running
at full throttle one day. A partially blocked coronary artery was giving me
the sensation of a cramp in my lower left chest that felt no more urgent
than the need to belch some air out of my stomach. I could cause the
feeling to return with heavy exercise and it would always go away just as soon
as
I throttled back and rested for 2-3 minutes. It took my wife's oversight
to get me to explore it further. I am a careful person and yet this
symptom seemed too benign to worry me.
The docs found the blockage and opened it up with angioplasty and it has
stayed open for 16 years now. I am required to jump through extra hoops for
the FAA now to prove my flight worthy status. My vote is that it is
better to understand and know the risks rather than to stick our heads in the
sand.
Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most passionate
aviators I have encountered in my life. A flight with you would be a true
flight into the heavens regardless of who has to be PIC on the manifest.
John
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
Outback (out back in the garage)
In a message dated 5/21/2009 3:09:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michel@online.no writes:
> From: Noel [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
> I know one commercial helicopter pilot who flew for years after bypass
> surgery.
So do I, here in Norway, Noel. The problem is: They don't want to come
forward with names and especially not, the name of the doctor who gave them
the papers for the license. There is a strong lobby here, to ask no more than
the driving license medical for ultralights, as it is for you and the
Sport Pilot license. But ... administration in a socialist country is like a
black hole, it absorbs everything, even the visible light, and ... it's for
ever!
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
Do not archive
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
> From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
> Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most passionate
> aviators I have encountered in my life.
Thank you for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine, the chances
are that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.
In my case, they gave me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even if my heart
stop, it will be defibrillated up to six consecutive times.
This is actually my key argument when meeting my doctor: If I can drive a car,
why can't I fly a plane? Because being defibrillate (being described as a horse
kick in the chest) while driving would surely put me out of the road. While,
in a Kiftox ... there is only air around me.
Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes loose consciousness
due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without anyone noticeing because,
once you let the controls go, the plane flies pretty much straight for a while,
isn't it?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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The first link did not say anything about ethanol.
Compared to fossil distillates that stuff is sandpaper in a bottle. If it
doesn't say ethanol proof it probably isn't.
The other sites do specify they meet a federal requirement for underground
tanks holding ethanol... It says nothing about how long it will remain
ethanol resistant.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: 21 May 2009 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fuelproof epoxy
At 04:04 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote:
> i am making a float for my fuek gauge. i am looking for a coating
> for the foam. i dont remember the type of foam but when i acquired
> it it was fuelproof. i am looking for an epoxy that is fuelproof. i
> dont think kreem or por 15 would be suitable as the coating should
> add strength. i can mix in some flox for added strength. any ideas
appreciated.
Bob,
This was the only thing I could find in retail quantities:
http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm
In wholesale you're looking for something that
satisfies the UL1316 specification for fiberglass tanks. I found:
http://www.aoc-resins.com/web/site/productinfo/67/C10/
http://www.interplastic.com/app_show.asp?appid=3
If you find some more retail sources let us know. (John
McBean may have a source, since he's making the fuel tanks.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting
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| Subject: | Re: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Michel:=0A=0AI know that legally-your son is your PIC.- For sure, that
does not mean that you don't fly the plane.- In practice, he is your safe
ty pilot.- I wonder if either you or him are comfortable flying the plane
from the-right seat.=0A=0AFirst time I took the controls, my father was
the PIC and I was just 9...I was too short to see over the dash of the Cess
na 206...sweet memories =0A=0ABest wishes mi amigo,=0A=0AJos=E9=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Michel Verheughe <michel@online
.no>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:18:04
PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License=0A=0A> From: KITFOXZ@ao
l.com- =0A> Michael I wish you well.- You are certainly one of the most
passionate- =0A> aviators I have encountered in my life.=0A=0AThank you
for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine, the chances are
that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.=0AIn my case, they ga
ve me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even if my heart stop, it will
be defibrillated up to six consecutive times.=0A=0AThis is actually my key
argument when meeting my doctor: If I can drive a car, why can't I fly a p
lane? Because being defibrillate (being described as a horse kick in the ch
est) while driving would surely put me out of the road. While, in a Kiftox
... there is only air around me.=0A=0ACorrect me if I am wrong but pilots d
oing aerobatics do sometimes loose consciousness due to excessive Gs, don't
they? And without anyone noticeing because, once you let the controls go,
the plane flies pretty much straight for a while, isn't it?=0A=0ACheers,=0A
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| Subject: | Re: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Nice try Michel.
I think generally any aerobatic PIC will release the pressure that
produces the G force before losing full consciousness. Mostly because
they want to experience the maneuver instead of sleeping through it, but
also, obviously, because you will automatically relax as you lose
consciousness. In those conditions you experience the onset of a
"Blackout" by first the induced loss of vision "Grayout" or "Redout"
while still remaining alert. This means you are aware, have warning and
can avoid loss of consciousness by controlling the G force. If you
intend to try to sustain enough G force to experience a Blackout it
would likely be brief if you alone were in control.
Hopefully that pilot will have enough altitude and the aircraft will
have enough control to recover before unintentional contact with the
ground.
Anyway, the aerobatics argument probably will not help you.
Rex
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes loose consciousness
due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without anyone noticeing because,
once you let the controls go, the plane flies pretty much straight for a while,
isn't it?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Jose
You bring up an interesting point and i would llike to see what others
think
about flying form the right seat. I flew the right seat years ago with
an
instructor. At that time I didn=92t think it was too difficult. In the
past
I=92ve also driven RHD cars on the right side of the road with no
problems (
standard four speed) but as we are all aware running a car at 40 mph
and
taxiing at 40mph in a small plane are not even close to being the same.
Like yourself I was about 12 the first time it took the controls... my
father was PIC. At 13 I did a compressed flight course. I did things
in
ten hours I never expect to do again. Looking back at it I think the
instructor must have been a few bottles off a dozen.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M.
Toro
Sent: 21 May 2009 06:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
Michel:
I know that legally your son is your PIC. For sure, that does not mean
that
you don't fly the plane. In practice, he is your safety pilot. I
wonder if
either you or him are comfortable flying the plane from the right seat.
First time I took the controls, my father was the PIC and I was just
9...I
was too short to see over the dash of the Cessna 206...sweet memories
<http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif>
Best wishes mi amigo,
Jos=E9
_____
From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:18:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
> From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
> Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most passionate
> aviators I have encountered in my life.
Thank you for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine, the
chances are that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.
In my case, they gave me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even if
my
heart stop, it will be defibrillated up to six consecutive times.
This is actually my key argument when meeting my doctor: If I can drive
a
car, why can't I fly a plane? Because being defibrillate (being
described as
a horse kick in the chest) while driving would surely put me out of the
road. While, in a Kiftox ... there is only air around me.
Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes loose
consciousness due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without anyone
noticeing
because, once you let the controls go, the plane flies pretty much
straight
for a while, isn't it?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
Do not archive
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Although that most folks on the list are airplane pilots, there are a
few of us that have more right seat time in aircraft than left seat
time. Those of us that have several thousand hours in helicopters
usually fall in that category in that the pilot seat is usually the
right seat and the aircraft are configured to be flown from the right
seat. Then, in addition to the helicopter time, some of us are
certified flight instructors with several thousand hours in both rotary
wing and fixed wing aircraft as flight instructors as well as
sport/private/commercial pilots. In the last 47 years of flying from
whichever seat I happen to be in at the time, in either rotary or fixed
wing, I have discovered that I can fly equally poor from either seat.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 -0230, Noel wrote:
> Jose
>
>
>
> You bring up an interesting point and i would llike to see what others
> think about flying form the right seat. I flew the right seat years
> ago with an instructor. At that time I didnt think it was too
> difficult. In the past Ive also driven RHD cars on the right side of
> the road with no problems ( standard four speed) but as we are all
> aware running a car at 40 mph and taxiing at 40mph in a small plane
> are not even close to being the same.
>
>
>
> Like yourself I was about 12 the first time it took the controls...
> my father was PIC. At 13 I did a compressed flight course. I did
> things in ten hours I never expect to do again. Looking back at it I
> think the instructor must have been a few bottles off a dozen.
>
>
>
> Noel
>
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M.
> Toro
> Sent: 21 May 2009 06:58 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
>
>
>
>
> Michel:
>
>
>
>
>
> I know that legally your son is your PIC. For sure, that does not
> mean that you don't fly the plane. In practice, he is your safety
> pilot. I wonder if either you or him are comfortable flying the plane
> from the right seat.
>
>
>
>
>
> First time I took the controls, my father was the PIC and I was just
> 9...I was too short to see over the dash of the Cessna 206...sweet
> memories
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes mi amigo,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jos
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:18:04 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
>
> > From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
> > Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most
> passionate
> > aviators I have encountered in my life.
>
> Thank you for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine,
> the chances are that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.
> In my case, they gave me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even
> if my heart stop, it will be defibrillated up to six consecutive
> times.
>
> This is actually my key argument when meeting my doctor: If I can
> drive a car, why can't I fly a plane? Because being defibrillate
> (being described as a horse kick in the chest) while driving would
> surely put me out of the road. While, in a Kiftox ... there is only
> air around me.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes
> loose consciousness due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without
> anyone noticeing because, once you let the controls go, the plane
> flies pretty much straight for a while, isn't it?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Try a G47 ... Then try to adjust the radio in flight... That should tell you why
helis fly right seat. The old Bell is basakwards.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hart
Sent: 21 May 2009 09:37 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
Although that most folks on the list are airplane pilots, there are a
few of us that have more right seat time in aircraft than left seat
time. Those of us that have several thousand hours in helicopters
usually fall in that category in that the pilot seat is usually the
right seat and the aircraft are configured to be flown from the right
seat. Then, in addition to the helicopter time, some of us are
certified flight instructors with several thousand hours in both rotary
wing and fixed wing aircraft as flight instructors as well as
sport/private/commercial pilots. In the last 47 years of flying from
whichever seat I happen to be in at the time, in either rotary or fixed
wing, I have discovered that I can fly equally poor from either seat.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 -0230, Noel wrote:
> Jose
>
>
>
> You bring up an interesting point and i would llike to see what others
> think about flying form the right seat. I flew the right seat years
> ago with an instructor. At that time I didnt think it was too
> difficult. In the past Ive also driven RHD cars on the right side of
> the road with no problems ( standard four speed) but as we are all
> aware running a car at 40 mph and taxiing at 40mph in a small plane
> are not even close to being the same.
>
>
>
> Like yourself I was about 12 the first time it took the controls...
> my father was PIC. At 13 I did a compressed flight course. I did
> things in ten hours I never expect to do again. Looking back at it I
> think the instructor must have been a few bottles off a dozen.
>
>
>
> Noel
>
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M.
> Toro
> Sent: 21 May 2009 06:58 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
>
>
>
>
> Michel:
>
>
>
>
>
> I know that legally your son is your PIC. For sure, that does not
> mean that you don't fly the plane. In practice, he is your safety
> pilot. I wonder if either you or him are comfortable flying the plane
> from the right seat.
>
>
>
>
>
> First time I took the controls, my father was the PIC and I was just
> 9...I was too short to see over the dash of the Cessna 206...sweet
> memories
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes mi amigo,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jos
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:18:04 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
>
> > From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
> > Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most
> passionate
> > aviators I have encountered in my life.
>
> Thank you for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine,
> the chances are that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.
> In my case, they gave me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even
> if my heart stop, it will be defibrillated up to six consecutive
> times.
>
> This is actually my key argument when meeting my doctor: If I can
> drive a car, why can't I fly a plane? Because being defibrillate
> (being described as a horse kick in the chest) while driving would
> surely put me out of the road. While, in a Kiftox ... there is only
> air around me.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes
> loose consciousness due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without
> anyone noticeing because, once you let the controls go, the plane
> flies pretty much straight for a while, isn't it?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
I confess I that I once attempted to earn a CFI. So I had a bunch of
right seat time during that training. After a while I felt equally
comfortable in either seat, just had to compensate for parallax on some
flight instruments. So it just takes some getting used to, IMHO.
Rex
PS: Some may ask, "What happened with the CFI course?" It turns out I
have mild Aspergers Syndrome which made it difficult to communicate with
people directly and I couldn't pass the oral part of the tests
acceptably per the examiner. I only learned about AS recently.
do not archive
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 -0230, Noel wrote:
>
>> Jose
>>
>>
>> You bring up an interesting point and i would llike to see what others
>> think about flying form the right seat. I flew the right seat years
>> ago with an instructor. At that time I didnt think it was too
>> difficult. In the past Ive also driven RHD cars on the right side of
>> the road with no problems ( standard four speed) but as we are all
>> aware running a car at 40 mph and taxiing at 40mph in a small plane
>> are not even close to being the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like yourself I was about 12 the first time it took the controls...
>> my father was PIC. At 13 I did a compressed flight course. I did
>> things in ten hours I never expect to do again. Looking back at it I
>> think the instructor must have been a few bottles off a dozen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noel
>>
>>
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| Subject: | medical for private pilot licence |
Medicals for private license or higher licenses are the same in most of
the world. that adheres to international aviation standards of the
International Civil Aviation Organization. Yes you lose your license for
1 year after a heart attack (myocardial infarction) After that it
depends on the risk of further complications. Further cardiac tests are
required to evaluate the risk after one year. Often a cardiologists
opinion is useful or required. Final decision lies with the feds.
Finally an appeal is allowed. These are international standards. As a
past Canadian Medical Examiner for 20 yrs I could do a qualifying exam
for anyone in any country adhering to these standards of the IACO.
Therefore your local MD with appointment to be a Examiner never has
final say. No need to look for a nice examiner. Safety not killing
yourself and others is the issue. Lower licenses, ultralight, sport,
recreational permits all have individual standards in different
countries in the IACO.. Some only require drivers license. Hope this is
helpful.
Harry Cieslar MD Avid Magnum Builder, Goderich, Ontario,Canada
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| Subject: | RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License |
Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt too. I've got about 800-900
hours in the Bell 47 series, although 95% of it in the military
versions.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 00:56 -0230, Noel wrote:
>
> Try a G47 ... Then try to adjust the radio in flight... That should tell you
why helis fly right seat. The old Bell is basakwards.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hart
> Sent: 21 May 2009 09:37 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
>
>
> Although that most folks on the list are airplane pilots, there are a
> few of us that have more right seat time in aircraft than left seat
> time. Those of us that have several thousand hours in helicopters
> usually fall in that category in that the pilot seat is usually the
> right seat and the aircraft are configured to be flown from the right
> seat. Then, in addition to the helicopter time, some of us are
> certified flight instructors with several thousand hours in both rotary
> wing and fixed wing aircraft as flight instructors as well as
> sport/private/commercial pilots. In the last 47 years of flying from
> whichever seat I happen to be in at the time, in either rotary or fixed
> wing, I have discovered that I can fly equally poor from either seat.
>
> John Hart
> KF IV, NSI Subaru
> Wilburton, OK
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 -0230, Noel wrote:
> > Jose
> >
> >
> >
> > You bring up an interesting point and i would llike to see what others
> > think about flying form the right seat. I flew the right seat years
> > ago with an instructor. At that time I didnt think it was too
> > difficult. In the past Ive also driven RHD cars on the right side of
> > the road with no problems ( standard four speed) but as we are all
> > aware running a car at 40 mph and taxiing at 40mph in a small plane
> > are not even close to being the same.
> >
> >
> >
> > Like yourself I was about 12 the first time it took the controls...
> > my father was PIC. At 13 I did a compressed flight course. I did
> > things in ten hours I never expect to do again. Looking back at it I
> > think the instructor must have been a few bottles off a dozen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Noel
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M.
> > Toro
> > Sent: 21 May 2009 06:58 PM
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michel:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I know that legally your son is your PIC. For sure, that does not
> > mean that you don't fly the plane. In practice, he is your safety
> > pilot. I wonder if either you or him are comfortable flying the plane
> > from the right seat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > First time I took the controls, my father was the PIC and I was just
> > 9...I was too short to see over the dash of the Cessna 206...sweet
> > memories
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes mi amigo,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:18:04 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: (OFF-TOPIC) License
> >
> > > From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
> > > Michael I wish you well. You are certainly one of the most
> > passionate
> > > aviators I have encountered in my life.
> >
> > Thank you for your kind words, John. Yes, thanks to modern medicine,
> > the chances are that we will die from either cancer or heart failure.
> > In my case, they gave me an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator so, even
> > if my heart stop, it will be defibrillated up to six consecutive
> > times.
> >
> > This is actually my key argument when meeting my doctor: If I can
> > drive a car, why can't I fly a plane? Because being defibrillate
> > (being described as a horse kick in the chest) while driving would
> > surely put me out of the road. While, in a Kiftox ... there is only
> > air around me.
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong but pilots doing aerobatics do sometimes
> > loose consciousness due to excessive Gs, don't they? And without
> > anyone noticeing because, once you let the controls go, the plane
> > flies pretty much straight for a while, isn't it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel Verheughe
> > Norway
> > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
> >
> > Do not archive
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