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1. 05:13 AM - model 5 gear pictures (kirk hull)
2. 08:19 AM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (Lowell Fitt)
3. 08:31 AM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (AKFLYERBOB)
4. 09:13 AM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (Larry Huntley)
5. 06:23 PM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (kirk hull)
6. 06:51 PM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (Frank Miles)
7. 07:12 PM - Re: model 5 gear pictures (Lynn Matteson)
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| Subject: | model 5 gear pictures |
Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that could
take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to strengthen my
classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would like to see
what changes were made to the model 5.
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| Subject: | Re: model 5 gear pictures |
Kirk,
I realize this is not a specific response to your question, but I know of
several guys that eliminated the limit cables after Dr. Downhill bent his
bungee bulkhead in a hard landing. I guess the limit cables are to protect
the prop from a ground strike, but there have been more reports of bulkhead
failures than prop strikes.
Maybe lengthing the cables a bit might be prudent if they are left on.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
Covering
----- Original Message -----
From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
> Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that could
> take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
> supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to strengthen my
> classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would like to see
> what changes were made to the model 5.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: model 5 gear pictures |
Thats bad advice
The cables are to keep the prop and "WING" from hitting
the ground. Even with broken bungees and bent gear
you can still fly home on the safety cable.
What should be eliminated is the HARD LANDINGS if possible.
Bob
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Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska
KF Mod I and III
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247687#247687
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| Subject: | Re: model 5 gear pictures |
Bulkhead damage OR a wing and a prop(and maybe engine crank)?? I think I
might leave them on and practice landings. OMO Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
>
> Kirk,
>
> I realize this is not a specific response to your question, but I know of
> several guys that eliminated the limit cables after Dr. Downhill bent his
> bungee bulkhead in a hard landing. I guess the limit cables are to
> protect
> the prop from a ground strike, but there have been more reports of
> bulkhead
> failures than prop strikes.
>
> Maybe lengthing the cables a bit might be prudent if they are left on.
>
> Lowell Fitt
> Cameron Park, CA
> Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
> Covering
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:12 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
>
>
>> Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that could
>> take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
>> supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to strengthen my
>> classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would like to
>> see
>> what changes were made to the model 5.
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | model 5 gear pictures |
Right now the plan is to change to the grove gear. We have been kicking the
idea around for a while now anyway as my Step father and co-owner of the
plane is just now learning how to fly so there are bound to be some more
hard landings. I have seen some pics of model 5's with out cover and
noticed a gusset on the side where the gear connects to the plane. I would
like to add this to the plane and some good pictures showing location would
be great. I got 1 from Kitfox but it is to close to really tell what tubes
it is covering. Also if anybody has any pictures for a model4 with the
grove gear showing where it mounts those would also be helpful.
If anybody can help it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Kirk hull
Kitfox Classic VI
N205AK Kansas City MO.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
Kirk,
I realize this is not a specific response to your question, but I know of
several guys that eliminated the limit cables after Dr. Downhill bent his
bungee bulkhead in a hard landing. I guess the limit cables are to protect
the prop from a ground strike, but there have been more reports of bulkhead
failures than prop strikes.
Maybe lengthing the cables a bit might be prudent if they are left on.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
Covering
----- Original Message -----
From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
> Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that could
> take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
> supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to strengthen my
> classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would like to see
> what changes were made to the model 5.
>
>
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| Subject: | model 5 gear pictures |
I have a Mdl. III with the Grove gear, wheels and brakes. Much more stable
than the old gear and very forgiving. I have put about 70 hours on it and
would not go back. If I remember right, it is about six inches wider.
See attached picture. I think that the four is very similar.
Frank Miles
Lewiston, Idaho
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
Right now the plan is to change to the grove gear. We have been kicking the
idea around for a while now anyway as my Step father and co-owner of the
plane is just now learning how to fly so there are bound to be some more
hard landings. I have seen some pics of model 5's with out cover and
noticed a gusset on the side where the gear connects to the plane. I would
like to add this to the plane and some good pictures showing location would
be great. I got 1 from Kitfox but it is to close to really tell what tubes
it is covering. Also if anybody has any pictures for a model4 with the
grove gear showing where it mounts those would also be helpful.
If anybody can help it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Kirk hull
Kitfox Classic VI
N205AK Kansas City MO.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
Kirk,
I realize this is not a specific response to your question, but I know of
several guys that eliminated the limit cables after Dr. Downhill bent his
bungee bulkhead in a hard landing. I guess the limit cables are to protect
the prop from a ground strike, but there have been more reports of bulkhead
failures than prop strikes.
Maybe lengthing the cables a bit might be prudent if they are left on.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
Covering
----- Original Message -----
From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
> Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that could
> take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
> supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to strengthen my
> classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would like to see
> what changes were made to the model 5.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: model 5 gear pictures |
Kirk-
Here are pictures of my IV with Grove gear. As you can see, the Grove
gear uses the front two float brackets on each side, to mount the
gear. I kept the picture size small to avoid a lengthy download.
This shot was taken during the temporary assembly stage, and does not
show that actual hardware that I used.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 672.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:23 PM, kirk hull wrote:
> Right now the plan is to change to the grove gear. We have been
> kicking the
> idea around for a while now anyway as my Step father and co-owner
> of the
> plane is just now learning how to fly so there are bound to be some
> more
> hard landings. I have seen some pics of model 5's with out cover and
> noticed a gusset on the side where the gear connects to the plane.
> I would
> like to add this to the plane and some good pictures showing
> location would
> be great. I got 1 from Kitfox but it is to close to really tell
> what tubes
> it is covering. Also if anybody has any pictures for a model4 with
> the
> grove gear showing where it mounts those would also be helpful.
> If anybody can help it would be greatly appreciated
>
>
> Thanks
> Kirk hull
> Kitfox Classic VI
> N205AK Kansas City MO.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell
> Fitt
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
>
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Kirk,
>
> I realize this is not a specific response to your question, but I
> know of
> several guys that eliminated the limit cables after Dr. Downhill
> bent his
> bungee bulkhead in a hard landing. I guess the limit cables are to
> protect
> the prop from a ground strike, but there have been more reports of
> bulkhead
> failures than prop strikes.
>
> Maybe lengthing the cables a bit might be prudent if they are left on.
>
> Lowell Fitt
> Cameron Park, CA
> Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
> Covering
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:12 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: model 5 gear pictures
>
>
>> Is there anybody out there with a model 5 that is not covered that
>> could
>> take some pics of the area where the gear connects and the front seat
>> supports(where the bungees would connect. I am going to
>> strengthen my
>> classic 4 in these areas after I got some bent tubes and would
>> like to see
>> what changes were made to the model 5.
>>
>>
>
>
> <IMG_8157.JPG>
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