Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/23/09


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:42 AM - Re: 582 on floats question?? (Noel)
     2. 09:05 AM - Re: 582 on floats question?? (akflyer)
     3. 09:12 AM - Re: Fw: Avid Gear (akflyer)
     4. 09:32 AM - Re: mismatched egt's (akflyer)
     5. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: 582 on floats question?? (Noel)
     6. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: 582 on floats question?? (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 02:05 PM - Fw: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft (Lynn Matteson)
     8. 08:16 PM - Re: Gross weight VS DA (WurlyBird)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:42:23 AM PST US
    From: "Noel" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: 582 on floats question??
    Rate of climb.. I also made a typo it was supposed to be just over 1000'/min... Flying with a 100 ft/min ROC isn't what I'd consider safe unless you were out on the praries. I also forgot to say my plane is one of the last model II to be built and was wupposed to be upgraded to model III... It has the under cambered wings and is less than 600 lb tare. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rical Sent: 22 June 2009 17:18 Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 on floats question?? Thanks Noel for your reply.Sorry, but what is ROC? Climb to altitude under 3000' is only 100 ft/min with floats? Richard Noel wrote: > > I think the plane would have been good enough to carry two depending on > weight. > > My plane has an MTOW of only 950lb and I've never gone over that weight. > Full tanks, myself, fishing and emerg gear comes out around 35 lb short of > that weight. The 582 has very high power to weight ratio the Ivo lets you > take advantage of all of it. > > Just of the record with the ivo my initial ROC from sea level is above > 1500ft/min. Tanks full. Climb to altitude under 3000 averages just over > 100 ft/min. As far as I can make out I use around 4 gal/ hr cruising and > close to twice that doing T&Gs. > > Noel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rical > Sent: 22 June 2009 10:30 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 on floats question?? > > > HI, I'm looking to buy a kitfox 3 or 4 and wondering if a 582 will be > good enough on floats (with a passenger). I'm looking at Puddlejumpers > amphies floats, about 150LBS. Any comments and numbers would be appreciated! > Noel, I think you had a 582 with IVO IFA, was it good enough?? > > regards > > Richard > > >


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    Time: 09:05:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 on floats question??
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    you guys are getting some pretty darn good performance. My buddies KF II on wheels, 582 72" IVO IFA climbs about 1200 FPM and around 700 FPM on floats solo with 9 gallons in the nose tank, a little less if you fill the 12 gallon wing tank. My Avid with same engine and prop only gets about 900 FPM solo with 28 gallons. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249686#249686


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    Time: 09:12:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Avid Gear
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    My seat truss and longerons were bent pretty good. As long as the tubes are not buckled, you would be surprised what you can do with a block of wood and a soft blow hammer. I used .020" 4130 plate on the sides of the fuse from the firewall back to the strut attach point to add some rigidity to the fuse sides to keep them from bending again. Seems to do the trick as I have beat it pretty good on skis hitting ice chunks and snowmachine tracks. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249687#249687 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05395_164.jpg


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    Time: 09:32:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: mismatched egt's
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    why go straight for crank seals? First thing to do is what Whurly said. Swap EGT senders and see if the high reading follows a sender or the display. Akflyerbobs did the same thing and it was the display not the seals. Another thing to check is for any corrosion or loose connections where the senders plug into the display. Any added resistance in a connection will cause a huge error in the reading. Start the checks at the most obvious (and cheapest and easiest to fix) then move on to bigger and more expensive / time consuming repairs. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249691#249691


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    Time: 09:38:53 AM PST US
    From: "Noel" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: 582 on floats question??
    No speed... 75-80 on a good day. But with the Ivo IFA I do get rocket ship climb at close to 900 lb. I'm getting close to getting the 'Fox back in the air with the new 912. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer Sent: 23 June 2009 13:34 Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 on floats question?? you guys are getting some pretty darn good performance. My buddies KF II on wheels, 582 72" IVO IFA climbs about 1200 FPM and around 700 FPM on floats solo with 9 gallons in the nose tank, a little less if you fill the 12 gallon wing tank. My Avid with same engine and prop only gets about 900 FPM solo with 28 gallons. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249686#249686


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    Time: 10:13:41 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 on floats question??
    My sympathies, Noel. Just kidding. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 682.9 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Jun 23, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Noel wrote: > I'm getting close to getting the 'Fox back in the air with the new > 912. > > Noel


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    Time: 02:05:08 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Fwd: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft
    Pretty good story at this site http://www.voicenews.com/stories/ 062409/loc_20090624005.shtml I got the address from Google Alerts. This guy seems to be getting all the press lately...guess I need to write another article. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 682.9 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive Begin forwarded message: > From: Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@google.com> > Date: June 23, 2009 4:47:06 PM GMT-04:00 > To: lynnmatt@jps.net > Subject: Google Alert - kitfox aircraft > > Google News Alert for: kitfox aircraft > > Aviation clubs collide to exchange hobbies for the day > New Baltimore Voice Newspapers - New Baltimore,MI,USA > By Jeri Packer The Experimental Aircraft Association and Radio > Control Club of ... in to the special event in his bright yellow > Kitfox with his wife, Emily. ... > > This as-it-happens Google Alert is brought to you by Google. > Remove this alert. > Create another alert. > Manage your alerts.


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    Time: 08:16:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gross weight VS DA
    From: "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
    As far as re-pitching, I have a GSC that I don't feel like messing with and plan on replacing it with a GA IVO soon. I should probably adjust the jets since I am running a little cold but I have left that alone since I am currently battling a water temp issue which has me thinking I need to purchase the radiator scoop. On that, any one replace the stock radiator with one a little larger? What was the radiator meant for? I tried shopping for a slightly larger radiator but all anyone cares about is what vehicle it is for and no one talks dimensions. And just because I can't keep anything simple, all of this is taking place while I am trying to re-fly my 3 hours of test prep for my check ride. The fun continues . . . -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop Just about ready to take my check ride. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249745#249745




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