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1. 05:06 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (kitfoxnick)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (dave)
3. 06:18 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (wingman)
4. 06:22 AM - Full Lotus wheels (wingman)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (dave)
6. 07:26 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (Tom Jones)
7. 08:11 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (wingman)
8. 08:49 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (carlisle)
9. 10:40 AM - Re: 582 on floats question?? (Ken Potter)
10. 11:54 AM - Re: HighWing Bungees (Tom Jones)
11. 11:57 AM - Re: mismatched egt's (akflyer)
12. 12:02 PM - Re: Full Lotus wheels (akflyer)
13. 12:21 PM - Re: Bungee cord service life (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
14. 07:00 PM - Re: HighWing Bungees (Lowell FITT)
15. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: HighWing Bungees (Noel)
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
I have a set of the high wings bungees. I was able to get the six wraps on, don't
know if they're any different then mine. I bought mine back in the fall.
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Nick Weiskopf
Norrisville, MD
kitfox !V-1200
Rotax 912ul
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
carlisle wrote:
> Anyone used these? The material is quite a bit thicker than what you get from
Kitfox. Whereas you're supposed to wrap the OEM cords around the tubes 6 times,
measuring out the diameter of the HighWing cords across the available tubing
length, looks like 4 loops will be about max.
I make my own, cost about 1$ a foot for mil spec bungee.
Each bungee 5 feet long - 6 wraps no trouble and work great. I don't use those
big nico crimps either. Mine have proven to be tough and never let go.
Dave
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
Dave
What are you using instead of nicopress then?
Do you just tie a knot or do you have some other clamping device?
W
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Subject: | Full Lotus wheels |
Hello
Has anyone seen, or used, or heard of anyone using the full lotus tail wheels.
The ones that are mounted on the rear of each float.
If so, do you have any info to share, or best of all, some pictures maybe.
W
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Rotax 912 ULS
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
I use wire - I think it about 1/8 or 5/32 . You crimp them on the bungees
.
Bull rings - what ever -- they grip and I tested them to 1500 lbs on ends
Look at any other bungee you buy -- they all the same
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
Ever wonder what the color codes on the bungees means?
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library%5CrgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/list/AC%2043.13-1B/$FILE/Chapter%2009-10.pdf
The color code is on page 9-2. I tried to copy and paste but the table came out
scrambled.
Here's what it says.
>From 43.13-b
"The cord is color coded to to indicate when it was manufactured and to determine
the life of the cord. According to MIL-C-5651A, the color code for the year
of manufacturer is repeated in cycles of 5 years. Table 9-1 shows the color
of the code thread for each year and quarter year.
Years ending with:
0 or 5 Black,
1 or 6 green,
2 or 7 Red,
3 or 8 Blue,
4 or 9 Yellow,
Quarter:
1st - Red,
2nd - Blue,
3rd - green,
4th - yellow
The color coding is composed of threads interwoven in the cotton sheath that holds
the strands of rubber cord together. Two spiral threads are used for the year
coding and one thread is used for the quarter of the year sheath, e.g. yellow
and blue would indicate that the cord was manufactured in 1994 during April,
May, or June."
I guess that might be 1999 or 2004 now too.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
Dave
Can you explain a bit more or post a picture of how you do it.
Regards
W
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Rotax 912 ULS
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
So the colot tells us how old it is but does anyone know the service life of mil
spec bungee cord?
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Subject: | Re: 582 on floats question?? |
Richard;
I'm in Lanark Village just west of Ottawa. There are several Kitfoxs in Eastern
Ontario. My own Mk II is just nearing completion (582 c box). I have a set
of Zenair floats which I have purchased as I plan to keep it at my cottage.
Give me a call at 613 259-3242 if you want to chat or come up and take a look
at the plane.
Cheers
Ken
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
C-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
> So the colot tells us how old it is but does anyone know the service life of
mil spec bungee cord?
The kitfox gear should be tight up against the fuselage when two people are on
board.
I have heard of Cubs going for 20 years or more.
>From 43.13b:
"a. Old aircraft landing gear that employs
a rubber shock (bungee) cord for shock
absorption must be inspected for age, fraying
of the braided sheath, narrowing (necking) of
the cord, and wear at points of contact with the
structure and stretch. If the age of the shock
cord is near 5 years or more, it is advisable to
replace it with a new cord. A cord that shows
other defects should be replaced, regardless of
age."
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: mismatched egt's |
dont know if you have read the articles by Mike Stratman about the proper care
and feeding of your 2 stroke, but it does make you understand the different circuits
on the carbs and how to properly tune them instead off guessing at what
you need to do.
I am right at sea level so I have 2 jets. 170s in winter 165s in summer.
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582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
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Subject: | Re: Full Lotus wheels |
they are pretty crappy. I would not use them for anything more than beaching gear.
If you are thinking about adapting one for full time use as a tail wheel,
I would advise that you clear your head of such thoughts.
just my .02 with a touch of snake oil...
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Subject: | Re: Bungee cord service life |
On Fri, June 26, 2009 8:49 am, carlisle wrote:
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> So the colot tells us how old it is but does anyone know the service life of
mil spec
> bungee cord?
My interpretation, for what it's worth, is that the service life is determined
by
inspection not to exceed 5 years from manufacturing date and standard of practice
is
replacement every two years. Sunlight and service environment affect useful service
life. I further believe that as slack develops to the point where they need to
be
re-tightened that this can be done only once but as a matter of practice, new ones
are
used.
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
425.440.9505 Office
"[April 15] is the last day for filing income tax returns -- a day
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the Federal Government. ... While April 15 serves as a reminder,
the people of the United States truly do not need to be reminded.
They are victims of inflation, which pushes them into higher tax
brackets. They are robbed daily of a better standard of living.
They are discouraged from work and investment. ... The choice
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growth than leaving more money in the hands of the people who earn
it. It's time to stop stripping bare the productive citizens of
America and funneling their hard-earned income into the Federal
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deficit by half in five years? The Congressional Budget Office
forecasts government spending over the next 10 years will quadruple
the annual deficit of Bush's presidency. The CBO expects the
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in savings over the next decade' is 'simply not true'. His budget
increases spending by $1 trillion over the next decade, which he
attempts to offset by reclassifying as "savings" $1.4 trillion in
tax increases and $1.5 trillion in reduced spending in Iraq.' First
he describes tax increases as 'savings.' Then he falsely projects
spending on the war in Iraq to remain high. By manipulating 'future
spending,' Obama can then 'reduce it' and pronounce it 'savings.'"
-- columnist Larry Elder
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
Sorry about the late response. The bungee cord is mil-spec Type I cord of 3
/8" diameter.- They are the dimension of the original Kitfdox bungees.-
As I recall, there was a time when Skyster sent out a thinner bungee but r
equired more wraps.
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When you wrap these, you will find that there will be overlap on at least o
ne wrap.
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The bungees are returnable if for any reason you are uncomfortable with the
m.
-
Lowell
--- On Thu, 6/25/09, carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: HighWing Bungees
Anyone used these?- The material is quite a- bit thicker than what you
get from Kitfox.- Whereas you're supposed to wrap the OEM cords around th
e tubes 6 times, measuring out the diameter of the HighWing cords across th
e available tubing length, looks like 4 loops will be about max.
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Subject: | Re: HighWing Bungees |
Dave what do you use to fabricate the loops?
Noel
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Sent: 26 June 2009 10:29
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: HighWing Bungees
carlisle wrote:
> Anyone used these? The material is quite a bit thicker than what you get
from Kitfox. Whereas you're supposed to wrap the OEM cords around the tubes
6 times, measuring out the diameter of the HighWing cords across the
available tubing length, looks like 4 loops will be about max.
I make my own, cost about 1$ a foot for mil spec bungee.
Each bungee 5 feet long - 6 wraps no trouble and work great. I don't use
those big nico crimps either. Mine have proven to be tough and never let go.
Dave
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