---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/04/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:38 AM - Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (Brian Morissette) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Throttle cable (Lowell Fitt) 3. 08:54 AM - Re: Throttle cable (jdmcbean) 4. 09:35 AM - Re: Throttle cable (Jim Feldmann) 5. 09:49 AM - Re: Throttle cable (Clint Bazzill) 6. 10:05 AM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (mic thiessen) 7. 11:43 AM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (Kitfox George) 8. 11:49 AM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (Brian Morissette) 9. 12:34 PM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (mic thiessen) 10. 01:48 PM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (akflyer) 11. 02:05 PM - Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? (Brian Morissette) 12. 09:02 PM - Wing Folding (Av8r3400) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:50 AM PST US From: "Brian Morissette" Subject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Hi I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breaker I should be installing in the loop. What works for others? Thanks Brian ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:42 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable Jack, I had replaced this cable several times and always just used cable from the local hardwqare store. As I recall it was 1/16 SS cable. Not perfectly sure, though. With essentially no bends, I never thought that the internally lubricated aircraft cable was necessary. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "rosane beaule" Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable I probably need to replace the throttle cable on me Kitfox 4 - 912 engine. Mine is bent at the carb link point and I have a hard time to do the carb synchronisation.Do you guys have a good place to order this cable? Any advise on what to avoid and what to look for? Jack Kitfox 4 - 1200- Rotax 912 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:09 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable Jack, We have a very nice twin lead throttle cable. Eliminates the bellcrank. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rosane beaule Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable I probably need to replace the throttle cable on me Kitfox 4 - 912 engine. Mine is bent at the carb link point and I have a hard time to do the carb synchronisation.Do you guys have a good place to order this cable? Any advise on what to avoid and what to look for? Jack Kitfox 4 - 1200- Rotax 912 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:51 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Throttle cable From: "Jim Feldmann" I went through the same thing when I needed to replace the choke cables. I just needed to replace the inner cable, since the sleeves were OK. The cables I bought locally and online proved to be too stiff and the chokes wouldn't shut off completely. I learned that there are different "weaves" (not the real term) available and the way the cable in "woven" affects it's flexibility. The common 1/16" cable is 1 x 16. It is too stiff to use in any application that requires a bend (as the choke cables do). I had to use 7 x 7 cable to make it work. You may get away with the 1 x 16 on the throttle, but I would recommend the 7 x 7 for that use as well. I think it would give you a little more leeway if you get a kink or some foreign material in the sleeve. I think I bought the 7 x 7 cable from Leading Edge Airfoils. -------- Jim Feldmann, 3rd owner 1994 Kitfox IV Speedster / 912 Working on my Sport Pilot Certificate Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251463#251463 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:28 AM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable I replaced my cables at least once for the choke. I went to a good local b icycle store and purchased it=2C no problem Model IV 1450 hours. Clint > From: lcfitt@sbcglobal.net > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable > Date: Sat=2C 4 Jul 2009 06:33:42 -0700 > > > Jack=2C I had replaced this cable several times and always just used cabl e > from the local hardwqare store. As I recall it was 1/16 SS cable. Not > perfectly sure=2C though. With essentially no bends=2C I never thought th at > the internally lubricated aircraft cable was necessary. > > Lowell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rosane beaule" > To: > Sent: Friday=2C July 03=2C 2009 4:20 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Throttle cable > > > I probably need to replace the throttle cable on me Kitfox 4 - 912 engine . > Mine is bent at the carb link point and I have a hard time to do the carb > synchronisation.Do you guys have a good place to order this cable? Any > advise on what to avoid and what to look for? > Jack > Kitfox 4 - 1200- Rotax 912 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:48 AM PST US From: mic thiessen Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? It should come with one in the wire harness. It did on mine. mic > From: brianm@snolab.ca > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com=3B kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? > Date: Sat=2C 4 Jul 2009 09:13:32 -0400 > > > > Hi > > I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breake r I > should be installing in the loop. What works for others? > Thanks > Brian > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends=2C in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:59 AM PST US From: Kitfox George Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? 10-amp=0A-George=0ASport Model - 914- almost, but not yet!=0Ado not arc hive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Brian Morisset te =0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com; Kitfox-List Digest L ist =0ASent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 6:13: 32 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA?=0A=0A--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Morissette" =0A=0A=0AHi =0A=0A I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breaker I=0Ashould be installing in the loop. What works for others?=0AThanks=0ABri =================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:20 AM PST US From: "Brian Morissette" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Thanks. I bought my prop and wiring used and the wiring that I received was some yucky extension cord material. I threw all the wiring away and there wasn't a circuit breaker in the wiring I received. I have it currently hooked up to a 3 amp breaker which trips quite easily when I get to the end of the stroke. How many amps is the breaker that came with your wiring harness? I thought I read 10 amps somewhere but I can't find the article to confirm. thanks Brian _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic thiessen Sent: July 4, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? It should come with one in the wire harness. It did on mine. mic > From: brianm@snolab.ca > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:13:32 -0400 > > > > Hi > > I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breaker I > should be installing in the loop. What works for others? > Thanks > Brian > > >====================== &g================= > > > _____ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:53 PM PST US From: mic thiessen Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Brian Not sure of my amps as my Kitfox is not close to home at the moment=2C but would venture a guess that it is 10 amps ot higher. Give IVO a call. they c ould clear it all up. Mine has never triped the breaker. When it hits dead end you can see it on your altenator gauge will spike and its time to let g o of the switch. mic From: brianm@snolab.ca Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Thanks. I bought my prop and wiring used and the wiring that I received was some yucky extension cord material. I threw all the wiring away and there wasn't a circuit breaker in the wiring I received. I have it currently hook ed up to a 3 amp breaker which trips quite easily when I get to the end of the stroke. How many amps is the breaker that came with your wiring harness? I thought I read 10 amps somewhere but I can't find the article to confirm. thanks Brian From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic thiessen Sent: July 4=2C 2009 1:01 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? It should come with one in the wire harness. It did on mine. mic > From: brianm@snolab.ca > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com=3B kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? > Date: Sat=2C 4 Jul 2009 09:13:32 -0400 > > > > Hi > > I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breake r I > should be installing in the loop. What works for others? > Thanks > Brian > > >====================== &g================= > > > Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends=2C in one place. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:45 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? From: "akflyer" Did you end up with an ungodly amount of extra wire that you coil up and stuff behind the pannel? IVO sends out a very long harness and cautions you not to cut it as it limits the current that gets to the motor. If you run shorter wires with less resistance, you run the risk of frying the motors, which used to be 37 bucks but are now 100 bucks. I have been through 6 of them until I figured out what the problem was (using high pitch blades as recommended by my brother) that requires the poor little motor to work too hard to flatten them out enough for take off RPM. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251498#251498 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:23 PM PST US From: "Brian Morissette" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? thanks a bunch Mic Brian _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic thiessen Sent: July 4, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Brian Not sure of my amps as my Kitfox is not close to home at the moment, but would venture a guess that it is 10 amps ot higher. Give IVO a call. they could clear it all up. Mine has never triped the breaker. When it hits dead end you can see it on your altenator gauge will spike and its time to let go of the switch. mic _____ From: brianm@snolab.ca Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? Thanks. I bought my prop and wiring used and the wiring that I received was some yucky extension cord material. I threw all the wiring away and there wasn't a circuit breaker in the wiring I received. I have it currently hooked up to a 3 amp breaker which trips quite easily when I get to the end of the stroke. How many amps is the breaker that came with your wiring harness? I thought I read 10 amps somewhere but I can't find the article to confirm. thanks Brian _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic thiessen Sent: July 4, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? It should come with one in the wire harness. It did on mine. mic > From: brianm@snolab.ca > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Circuit breaker IVO IFA? > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:13:32 -0400 > > > > Hi > > I am installing a ivo IFA on my 912 and was wondering what size of breaker I > should be installing in the loop. What works for others? > Thanks > Brian > > >====================== &g================= > > > _____ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution _____ Internet Explorer 8 makes surfing easier. Get it now! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:50 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Folding From: "Av8r3400" I am the proud owner of a "Classic Model IV" Kitfox. The plane did not come with the wing fold bracket or braces. The other Kitfoxes that I have seen have a tab welded to the tubing on the vertical tail (Just above the h-stab) that the wing braces hook to when the wings are folded. This plane does not have these. There is a tube (currently covered with fabric) similar to the trailer hitch mount tubes on the front of the vertical stab in front of the h-stab. Is this for some other design brackets? Does anyone have a Classic IV that they can photo showing the folded wing bracket mounts?? 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