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1. 07:00 AM - Re: S7 gross weights (Tom Jones)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: S7 gross weights (Roger McConnell)
3. 08:47 AM - Re: dry clutch (wingman)
4. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: dry clutch (Shane Sather)
5. 09:13 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/13/09 (Ed Gray)
6. 10:52 PM - Re: Re: dry clutch (Clint Bazzill)
7. 11:12 PM - Re: Re: dry clutch (Shane Sather)
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| Subject: | Re: S7 gross weights |
My understanding and comment is the series 7 can be flown under sport pilot rules
if the builder sets the Max gross weight at 1320.
If you ask questions about "Light Sport Aircraft" the answers will confuse you
in a hurry. Almost like playing with fire if you get into that discussion.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | S7 gross weights |
John,
I fly the non LSA Model 7 and it is rated with a gross weight of
1550 lb. It does also have the Grove gear. It is registered in the
Experimental Homebuilt category. I too have never flown even close to the
gross weight but I know the airframe and gear can handle it.
Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK
Model 7 Trigear, Rotax 912uls
Flying sense Jan. 06
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Reinking
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: S7 gross weights
Gentlemen, I am looking at building the S7 because of it's
features and design. Design selection had to include the load-
carrying ability of the Aircraft. My problem: weight. 2 humans
total 500 max plus full fuel 156 #. About 656. It will be built
and licensed as E/AB LSA w/1320 gross wt limit. Adding the heavier
landing gear rthe AIRCRAFT limit can go to 1550. (of course, no
longer a LSA). Does that mean that the LSA aircraft can safely
carry the 656# (if) it has the heavier landing gear? Don't plan on
flying over gross EVER but is the licensing category the only element
keeping me from being able to carry the heavier load at takeoff?
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it's just the sound of the clutch
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Kitfox IV 1200
Rotax 912 ULS
on full lotus floats
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It is not a good sound. It is the kind of sound that makes one happy to be
on the ground and not in the air while it is happening.
Maybe a bearing or something was too tight when the slipper parts were
installed and when the engine gets hot it is too tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "wingman" <wingman5507@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
>
> it's just the sound of the clutch
>
> --------
> Kitfox IV 1200
> Rotax 912 ULS
> on full lotus floats
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257649#257649
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| Subject: | RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/13/09 |
Re: The question about what gauges to combine with an EFIS, my panel has a
Grand Rapids Sport (with GPS and HITS) and a pitot airspeed as the only
backup. Other instruments are water temp, egt, tach and fuel flow. I plan
on a backup 12v. source (hobby battery) for the EFIS. The GRT provides the
alt. data for the transponder. No vacuum source at all
Plane is finished, waiting on FAA Cert. to go fly it--can't wait.
Ed Gray, Dallas Mod. II, 582 B, do not archive
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 08:14 AM - Re: crankshaft tools (Mark Napier (napierm))
2. 10:33 AM - Re: Avid ditches off Ireland shore (Tom Beirne)
3. 12:16 PM - Re: crankshaft tools (akflyer)
4. 12:18 PM - Re: crankshaft tools (akflyer)
5. 05:43 PM - S7 weights question (John Reinking)
6. 05:43 PM - S7 gross weights (John Reinking)
7. 05:45 PM - Re: crankshaft tools (JetPilot)
8. 06:05 PM - Re: EFIS (JetPilot)
9. 08:48 PM - Re: Re: crankshaft tools (Cecil Stokesberry)
10. 10:51 PM - dry clutch (Shane Sather)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 08:14:22 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: "Mark Napier (napierm)" <napierm@cisco.com>
The harmonic balance puller is what I used to pull the flywheel from the
PTO of my 582 also with a C box.
I didn't use the fixation pin as I didn't want to put that much torque
on the crank. Instead I just used another bar lever in-between two of
the bolts to push against while tightening the puller.
When you changed the gear ratio how did you pull the big gear off of the
output shaft?
Best Regards,
Mark
Time: 11:46:50 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
you still need the rotax gear puller for the PTO end to change the seal.
I broke
down and bought one for changing the gear ratio on mine.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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Time: 10:33:39 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Avid ditches off Ireland shore
From: "Tom Beirne" <thomasbeirne@eircom.net>
SAR footage here -not sure if it will work outside Ireland. Skip to about
12min
30sec.
No footage of the ditching but this was taken from the boat that was nearby
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Time: 12:16:02 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
the rotax puller. I made a jig to hold the prop flange, then heat the gear
up
as it has red locktite on it. the rotax puller will pop it right off. I
will
be doing it again this time home going back to my 2.62 gears as i had better
performance out of them.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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Time: 12:18:01 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
and I may have lied to you.. I know on a "B" box you dont have to pull the
pinion
gear off the crank to change the seal. I cant remember if the "C" gear is
larger though. I will check it out when I get home next week and see if you
can
just slip the new seal on over the pinion gear.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 05:43:42 PM PST US
From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: S7 weights question
Gentlemen, is the 1320# wt limit for the S7/LSA a paper limit?
Reading the company site and their info brochures leads me to wonder
if just adding the heavier landing gear (raising the wt limit on a
NON LSA licensed aircraft) allows a wt limit of 1550#. Comments?
Thanks, John Reinking/Woodinville, WA
________________________________ Message 6
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Time: 05:43:42 PM PST US
From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: S7 gross weights
Gentlemen, I am looking at building the S7 because of it's
features and design. Design selection had to include the load-
carrying ability of the Aircraft. My problem: weight. 2 humans
total 500 max plus full fuel 156 #. About 656. It will be built
and licensed as E/AB LSA w/1320 gross wt limit. Adding the heavier
landing gear rthe AIRCRAFT limit can go to 1550. (of course, no
longer a LSA). Does that mean that the LSA aircraft can safely
carry the 656# (if) it has the heavier landing gear? Don't plan on
flying over gross EVER but is the licensing category the only element
keeping me from being able to carry the heavier load at takeoff?
________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 05:45:50 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
akflyer wrote:
>
>
> the rotax puller....
>
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
>
How much does the Rotax puller cost ???
Has it been that long already ? How time flys :)
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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________________________________ Message 8
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Time: 06:05:05 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: EFIS
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I am installing a Grand Rapids EFIS in my Kitfox 7 SS. I will not be
putting any
backup instruments in it. I do not plan to fly IFR, and even if I lost the
entire EFIS, anyone with a little skill and experience should be able to
easily
land a light plane like a Kitfox VFR with no instruments. A properly
installed
EFIS system is very reliable, probably more reliable than a panel full of
old school vacuum driven Gyros, etc.... I have been flying EFIS airplanes
thousands
of hours for the last 10 years, EFIS is clearly superior to analog gages..
In a pinch, GPS makes a great backup for airspeed indicator. I know it
reads ground
speed, but I always have a pretty good idea of where the wind is coming
from and how strong when I land, easy enough to get it within a few MPH if
one
has no skills and is not capable of doing a landing without airspeed [Wink]
If I just had to have a backup, it would be a single airspeed indicator...
Nothing
else. For what its worth, I have seen several failures of mechanical
airspeed
indicators, but never an airspeed failure on an EFIS... In the end,
its just a question if a builder is open minded enough to embrace new and
better
technology, or if he is so stuck in old ways, that he must have inferior
analog
gages...
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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________________________________ Message 9
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Time: 08:48:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: crankshaft tools
From: Cecil Stokesberry <stokesc@wildblue.net>
Go on the CPS (California Power Systems) Web site and order their catalog.
It is full of very useful info. www.800-airw2lf.com
or
www.leadingedgeadirfoils.com their catalog is very good but smaller.
Both are rotax dealers with detailed descriptions and pictures of parts and
tools.
Cecil
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:43 PM, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> akflyer wrote:
> >
> >
> > the rotax puller....
> >
> > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
> >
> >
>
>
> How much does the Rotax puller cost ???
>
> Has it been that long already ? How time flys :)
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257589#257589
>
>
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 10:51:42 PM PST US
From: "Shane Sather" <shanesather@netkaster.ca>
Subject: Kitfox-List: dry clutch
I have a 912S and I had the clutch upgraded to the slipper clutch. I had the
clutch done by a dealer but I had to remove and install the gear box myself.
After I changed the clutch I ran the engine and it all seemed fine, no leaks
and sounded good. Yesterday I taxied out on the water and took a few short
runs just to check that all was well. Oil pressure was good, all temps were
within limits. When I shut off the engine I could hear a dry sound. It
appeared to be coming from the gearbox. I hand proped it and could hear the
same sound almost a squeeking sound from the same area. Pulled the plugs to
check them they were all fine (left them out) and after when the engine
cooled a bit I hand proped it again and it sound normal. Is my gear box not
getting oil? Or is something else wrong. Any ideas
Shane
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What kind of oil are you using. No Moly I hope.
Clint
> From: shanesather@NETKASTER.CA
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
> Date: Fri=2C 14 Aug 2009 17:39:07 -0600
>
CA>
>
> It is not a good sound. It is the kind of sound that makes one happy to b
e
> on the ground and not in the air while it is happening.
> Maybe a bearing or something was too tight when the slipper parts were
> installed and when the engine gets hot it is too tight.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wingman" <wingman5507@gmail.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday=2C August 14=2C 2009 9:45 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
>
>
> >
> > it's just the sound of the clutch
> >
> > --------
> > Kitfox IV 1200
> > Rotax 912 ULS
> > on full lotus floats
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257649#257649
> >
> >
> >
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I am using Honda 4 stroke oil. It is the same oil I have always used
----- Original Message -----
From: Clint Bazzill
To: Kitfox list
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
What kind of oil are you using. No Moly I hope.
Clint
> From: shanesather@NETKASTER.CA
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:39:07 -0600
>
<shanesather@NETKASTER.CA>
>
> It is not a good sound. It is the kind of sound that makes one happy
to be
> on the ground and not in the air while it is happening.
> Maybe a bearing or something was too tight when the slipper parts
were
> installed and when the engine gets hot it is too tight.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wingman" <wingman5507@gmail.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:45 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: dry clutch
>
>
<wingman5507@gmail.com>
> >
> > it's just the sound of the clutch
> >
> > --------
> > Kitfox IV 1200
> > Rotax 912 ULS
> > on full lotus floats
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257649#257649
> >
> >
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