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Fri 08/28/09


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 05:53 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Tom Jones)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Malcolm Brubaker)
     3. 06:31 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Tom Jones)
     4. 06:44 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
     5. 08:26 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Lowell Fitt)
     6. 08:53 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Larry Huntley)
     7. 09:43 AM - Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer (Perkins, Mike)
     8. 11:18 AM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (Marco Menezes)
     9. 12:01 PM - Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer (Lynn Matteson)
    10. 05:34 PM - Re: wind shield mod 2 (akflyer)
    11. 05:39 PM - Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer (akflyer)
    12. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer (Lynn Matteson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:53:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    It will go much faster if you have the old wind shield for a pattern. The originals come as a piece of lexan 48 inches by about 49 inches. There is a rough outline on them to get you started. You cut out the outline then try it, cut some more, try it, cut some more... -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260178#260178


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    Time: 05:54:29 AM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    thanks for the info I am now wondering how thick the polly carb is --- On Fri, 8/28/09, ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> wrote: From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 #yiv619524609 p {margin:0;}Malcolm. Sorry this is late. I just got this e-m ail a few minutes ago. I bought poly-carbonate from McMaster-Carr company. This is an industrial supply company. They had UPS deliver me a full sheet of Poly-carb in a blinding snow storm. Great company to-deal with.- Hop e this helps-Tom=0A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 =0A=0A=0A=0AI need a source for a wind shield- so we can install it at th e oshkosh120 hr L.S.R.M. course next month lexan--- or- poly carb --- On Wed, 8/26/09, delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> wrote: =0A From: delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Whistling Noise =0A=0AI have a KitFox Model IV, with a Rotax 582 and have noticed a high-pi tched whistling type noise emanating from under the hood. It's not terribly loud and has a bell's tonal quality. The frequency does not change at diff erent rpm settings, it only get somewhat louder. In other words, the cycle, or pitch of the noise doesn't change with different power settings.=0AI ha ve listened to it also with the upper cowling removed and both doors off tr yng to determine if it is caused by prop blast blowing through an opening o r hole. It's hard to pinpoint where it's coming from, but it seems to be st rongest on the right side (while seated on the left).=0AIf anyone else has experienced this type of thing before, or has any ideas, I would like to he ar from them. I won't be flying it until I can figure this out!=0ADavid Lyn ch=0AN97C=0ATimberlake, NC ____________________________________________________________ Free Life Insurance Quote Get a Free Quote & Smart Advice! Compare Rates & Save Up To 70% http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List< --> =0A 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:31:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Here is some information on the windshields. It is not specific to the model 2 but will probably help with your install. http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/support/service_bulletins/sb34.htm -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260185#260185


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    Time: 06:44:14 AM PST US
    From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    It comes in many thicknesses. You will need to take a mic to what you have to get the tickness. Caution-if you want to bend this, be carefull with hea t. To much heat will cause air bubbles in it. There is a process to heat an d bend Poly-carb with no adverse affects.-Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:50:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 thanks for the info I am now wondering how thick the polly carb is --- On Fri, 8/28/09, ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> wrote: From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 Malcolm. Sorry this is late. I just got this e-mail a few minutes ago. I bo ught poly-carbonate from McMaster-Carr company. This is an industrial suppl y company. They had UPS deliver me a full sheet of Poly-carb in a blinding snow storm. Great company to=C2-deal with.=C2- Hope this helps-Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 I need a source for a wind shield=C2- so we can install it at the oshkosh 120 hr L.S.R.M. course next month lexan=C2-=C2-=C2- or=C2- poly car b --- On Wed, 8/26/09, delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> wrote: From: delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Whistling Noise I have a KitFox Model IV, with a Rotax 582 and have noticed a high-pitched whistling type noise emanating from under the hood. It's not terribly loud and has a bell's tonal quality. The frequency does not change at different rpm settings, it only get somewhat louder. In other words, the cycle, or pi tch of the noise doesn't change with different power settings. I have listened to it also with the upper cowling removed and both doors of f tryng to determine if it is caused by prop blast blowing through an openi ng or hole. It's hard to pinpoint where it's coming from, but it seems to b e strongest on the right side (while seated on the left). If anyone else has experienced this type of thing before, or has any ideas, I would like to hear from them. I won't be flying it until I can figure th is out! David Lynch N97C Timberlake, NC ____________________________________________________________ Free Life Insurance Quote Get a Free Quote & Smart Advice! Compare Rates & Save Up To 70% http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List< --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List ===================== ==


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    Time: 08:26:49 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    Keep in mind that the Lowes, Home Depot material is glazing for windows. I think it is .090. I have always used the .063 or what ever it is and that is only available in a plastics shop or online. If you are in California there is a family owned company that sells Polycarbonate. They are also online - Tap Plastics. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 thanks for the info I am now wondering how thick the polly carb is --- On Fri, 8/28/09, ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> wrote: From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 #yiv619524609 p {margin:0;}Malcolm. Sorry this is late. I just got this e-mail a few minutes ago. I bought poly-carbonate from McMaster-Carr company. This is an industrial supply company. They had UPS deliver me a full sheet of Poly-carb in a blinding snow storm. Great company to deal with. Hope this helps-Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 I need a source for a wind shield so we can install it at the oshkosh120 hr L.S.R.M. course next month lexan or poly carb --- On Wed, 8/26/09, delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> wrote: From: delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Whistling Noise I have a KitFox Model IV, with a Rotax 582 and have noticed a high-pitched whistling type noise emanating from under the hood. It's not terribly loud and has a bell's tonal quality. The frequency does not change at different rpm settings, it only get somewhat louder. In other words, the cycle, or pitch of the noise doesn't change with different power settings. I have listened to it also with the upper cowling removed and both doors off tryng to determine if it is caused by prop blast blowing through an opening or hole. It's hard to pinpoint where it's coming from, but it seems to be strongest on the right side (while seated on the left). If anyone else has experienced this type of thing before, or has any ideas, I would like to hear from them. I won't be flying it until I can figure this out! David Lynch N97C Timberlake, NC ____________________________________________________________ Free Life Insurance Quote Get a Free Quote & Smart Advice! Compare Rates & Save Up To 70% http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List< --> 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D============================================


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    Time: 08:53:09 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    Polycarbonate is polycarbonate. Lexan is a good brand. Rhino is another. I have used both. They come in various thicknesses. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 > > Keep in mind that the Lowes, Home Depot material is glazing for windows. > I > think it is .090. I have always used the .063 or what ever it is and that > is only available in a plastics shop or online. If you are in California > there is a family owned company that sells Polycarbonate. They are also > online - Tap Plastics. > > Lowell > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:50 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 > > > thanks for the info I am now wondering how thick the polly carb is > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> > wrote: > > From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 1:10 AM > > #yiv619524609 p {margin:0;}Malcolm. Sorry this is late. I just got this > e-mail a few minutes ago. I bought poly-carbonate from McMaster-Carr > company. This is an industrial supply company. They had UPS deliver me a > full sheet of Poly-carb in a blinding snow storm. Great company to deal > with. Hope this helps-Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 > > > I need a source for a wind shield so we can install it at the oshkosh120 > hr > L.S.R.M. course next month lexan or poly carb > > --- On Wed, 8/26/09, delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> wrote: > > > From: delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Whistling Noise > To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:33 PM > > > I have a KitFox Model IV, with a Rotax 582 and have noticed a high-pitched > whistling type noise emanating from under the hood. It's not terribly loud > and has a bell's tonal quality. The frequency does not change at different > rpm settings, it only get somewhat louder. In other words, the cycle, or > pitch of the noise doesn't change with different power settings. > I have listened to it also with the upper cowling removed and both doors > off > tryng to determine if it is caused by prop blast blowing through an > opening > or hole. It's hard to pinpoint where it's coming from, but it seems to be > strongest on the right side (while seated on the left). > If anyone else has experienced this type of thing before, or has any > ideas, > I would like to hear from them. I won't be flying it until I can figure > this > out! > David Lynch > N97C > Timberlake, NC > > ____________________________________________________________ > Free Life Insurance Quote > Get a Free Quote & Smart Advice! Compare Rates & Save Up To 70% > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List< --> > > > 3D============================================ > 3D============================================ > 3D============================================ > 3D============================================ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:26:00


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    Time: 09:43:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer
    From: "Perkins, Mike" <Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
    My almost-new Northstar F210 occasionally drops to 0 gph during cruise. After a while it starts reading correctly again. It seems to do this once or twice every hour of flight. I have no idea why.


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    Time: 11:18:53 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    Mal, - Buy--locally if you can. The shipping on a full sheet of Lexan (half-sh eet is not enough) will eat you alive. Because of it's size many suppliers ship only by common carrier. When I checked, freight to Mich-was more tha n the cost of the Lexan. Wound up bying from John McBean. He sells a piece just big enough with pattern traced on. Cut it with tin snips and installat ion is a snap. No heat required. - Good luck. - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-box 3:1 w/clutch --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 Keep in mind that the Lowes, Home Depot material is glazing for windows.- I think it is .090.- I have always used the .063 or what ever it is and that is only available in a plastics shop or online.- If you are in Calif ornia there is a family owned company that sells Polycarbonate.- They are also online - Tap Plastics. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.co m> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 thanks for the info I am now wondering how thick the polly carb is --- On Fri, 8/28/09, ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> wrote: From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net <ctmcdowell@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 #yiv619524609 p {margin:0;}Malcolm. Sorry this is late. I just got this e-m ail a few minutes ago. I bought poly-carbonate from McMaster-Carr company. This is an industrial supply company. They had UPS deliver me a full sheet of Poly-carb in a blinding snow storm. Great company to deal with. Hope thi s helps-Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Brubaker" <brubakermal@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2 I need a source for a wind shield so we can install it at the oshkosh120 hr L.S.R.M. course next month lexan or poly carb --- On Wed, 8/26/09, delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> wrote: From: delynch1@juno.com <delynch1@juno.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Whistling Noise I have a KitFox Model IV, with a Rotax 582 and have noticed a high-pitched whistling type noise emanating from under the hood. It's not terribly loud and has a bell's tonal quality. The frequency does not change at different rpm settings, it only get somewhat louder. In other words, the cycle, or pi tch of the noise doesn't change with different power settings. I have listened to it also with the upper cowling removed and both doors of f tryng to determine if it is caused by prop blast blowing through an openi ng or hole. It's hard to pinpoint where it's coming from, but it seems to b e strongest on the right side (while seated on the left). If anyone else has experienced this type of thing before, or has any ideas, I would like to hear from them. I won't be flying it until I can figure th is out! David Lynch N97C Timberlake, NC ____________________________________________________________ Free Life Insurance Quote Get a Free Quote & Smart Advice! Compare Rates & Save Up To 70% http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List<- --> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 12:01:48 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer
    Do you folks that are having problems with the F210 have good fuel filters prior to the fuel going into the transducer? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 744.1 hrs Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying On Aug 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Perkins, Mike wrote: > My almost-new Northstar F210 occasionally drops to 0 gph during > cruise. After a while it starts reading correctly again. It seems > to do this once or twice every hour of flight. I have no idea why. > > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 05:34:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:wind shield mod 2
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    Watch what you get from home depot. I was looking for lexan at the local HD and all they had was acetate. Great for building aquariums, but sucks for windshields. Will not cut with tin snips as it is too brittle, and will shatter instead of cracking and breaking. Last time I ordered it from A.S. they rolled it up and put it in a shipping tube for me. I think a sheet, shipped to my house in AK using priority mail was 120.00. The supplier that is 150 miles away from me wanted 180 bucks a sheet and I had to drive up to go get it. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260304#260304


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    Time: 05:39:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    [quote="mikeperkins"]My almost-new Northstar F210 occasionally drops to 0 gph during cruise. After a while it starts reading correctly again. It seems to do this once or twice every hour of flight. I have no idea why. > [b] Sounds like crap in the fuel lines. I was flying yesterday and noticed my flow rate was slowly dropping. Should have been burning 7.2 in climb out and I was showing 6.3. I pushed over into cruise and pulled it back to where I should have been burning 5.6 and was showing 4.9. I kicked on the electric booster and the flow jumped back up to 5.6. Looked over my right shoulder and could see crap in the filter just above the transducer. Landed, put in a new filter and everything was back to normal. If I did not have that fuel flow meter, I could have easily had a fuel starvation issue and had a nice ride into the trees, instead, I was able to catch it in plenty of time and make the lake. Would have to say it is the best 119.00 bucks I have spent. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260305#260305


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    Time: 07:20:27 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Northstar F210 fuel flow gauge transducer
    Same here, although for different reasons. With the fuel flow gauge showing my gph usage, I've found that I can fly lean-of-peak EGT (thanks to the Rotec TBI, with its mixture control), and check to see how close my cylinders are to each other in terms of fuel/air distribution. With that information, I'm currently making modifications to my engine that will even out the distribution to the cylinders. I just finished making a "turbulator" and will install and test it shortly. I was getting kinda bored just flying around with no particular goal in mind. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 744.1 hrs Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:36 PM, akflyer wrote: > Would have to say it is the best 119.00 bucks I have spent. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1450 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260305#260305 > >




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