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Thu 09/17/09


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:29 AM - Re: how to fly a kitfox (Hfirm)
     2. 08:21 AM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (fox5flyer)
     3. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: how to fly a kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
     4. 10:12 AM - Re: how to fly a kitfox (eric hendriks)
     5. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: how to fly a kitfox (jdmcbean)
     6. 04:48 PM - Long distance trailering (Lion8)
     7. 05:55 PM - Re: Long distance trailering (Tex Mantell)
     8. 07:00 PM - Re: Long distance trailering (Lion8)
     9. 07:09 PM - Re: Long distance trailering (ron schick)
    10. 07:41 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (Jim Crowder)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:29:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: how to fly a kitfox
    From: "Hfirm" <zarpheous21@gmail.com>
    Duane, did you buy Laura and Dan Melniks plane? Just curious.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263486#263486


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    Time: 08:21:11 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions..
    Jim, I tore one of those isolation modules apart, mainly to see how they work. A friend and I determined that the failure wasn't from the diodes themselves, but the failure of the epoxy resin that is used as an electrical insulator to keep the high voltage from jumping across the diodes causing the engine to misfire. We also determined that the reason for the epoxy failure was the heat and vibration from the engine. Possibly placing the modules on the firewall away from the engine heat might prolong their life, but I think the module design would still cause failures eventually. The fact that you were able to rebuild one of the modules successfully speaks for your craftsmanship skills. Those little things are really packed in there. Did you use the same diodes? What sort of epoxy did you use for the potting compound? If you find the photos please post them. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Crowder" <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. > <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net> > > Howard, > I at one time had that same engine and had a failure with one of the > modules. I successfully rebuilt the module and replaced the solid epoxy. > I > took some pictures of the operation to give to the individual who bought > the > engine. I am replacing that engine with a Jabiru 3300. I came across the > pictures a few weeks ago while purging my files. If you like I will try > to > find them again and attach them to an email to you. I am on the road > currently traveling through North Carolina with my wife and another couple > but have had internet connections at night. Rebuilding was much easier > than > I expected. > > Jim Crowder > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list- >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hfirm >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:56 AM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI >> questions.. >> >> >> This is Howard for those of you who will remember me...I used to fly >> the purple monster in Northern Minnesota. I am helping a friend get his >> -4 in the air...we did a first flight last week....this plane had a >> landing incident and was converted to nosewheel.....a few flights on it >> now and everything is going nice... >> I'm having an ignition issue, I'm getting spark out of both A & B but, >> the module that the duel ign. goes to, is only letting half of the >> spark through to the plugs. Module A is blocking half and module B is >> blocking half. We have to have both ignitions on or it will only run on >> 2 cylinders. These modules seem to be solid epoxy and no way to >> open....Anything come up like this before? And while on the subject? >> Where did Lance Wheeler go off to? Anybody hear from him? I hope he's >> doing well...That NSI is a nice package..I have a lot of time behind >> them....It's fun to be in a kitfox again after so many years.. >> Howard >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262589#262589 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:52:44 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: how to fly a kitfox
    Duane doesn't always get to his email every day, so I'll take the liberty of answering for him. Yes, he did, and it first went through our very own Deke, then to Duane, then sat in my hangar for about 2 months while Duane got up the courage to tell his wife (just kidding D. ), then he flew it out west somewhere. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 770.6 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~230 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Hfirm wrote: > > Duane, did you buy Laura and Dan Melniks plane? Just curious.... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263486#263486 > >


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    Time: 10:12:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: how to fly a kitfox
    From: "eric hendriks" <ehtbox@planet.nl>
    jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf wrote: > Eric, > Not sure who you emailed... We have the books in stock and have for > some time. > > "Kitfox A Pilots Guide" $21.95 > > > Fly Safe !! > John & Debra McBean > Ph 208.337.5111 > www.kitfoxaircraft.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > > > -- Are the book 'how to fly akitfox'" and pilots guide the same? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263547#263547


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    Time: 11:07:25 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: how to fly a kitfox
    How to Fly a Kitfox was the Pilots guide predecessor. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of eric hendriks Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: how to fly a kitfox jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf wrote: > Eric, > Not sure who you emailed... We have the books in stock and have for > some time. > > "Kitfox A Pilots Guide" $21.95 > > > Fly Safe !! > John & Debra McBean > Ph 208.337.5111 > www.kitfoxaircraft.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > > > -- Are the book 'how to fly akitfox'" and pilots guide the same? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263547#263547


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    Time: 04:48:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Long distance trailering
    From: "Lion8" <ctmcdowell@comcast.net>
    I have a 21ft. dual axle boat trailer with coil springs that I will be using to bring home a Kitfox IV soon. It will be tail forward. The Vertical Stab. is 70 in. high. That, with the trailer 22in. off the road is quite high. Is their any tips for towing like this? -------- Flying a Trike for 9 years. @ years LSA. Looking for a Kitfox IV or newer. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263602#263602


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    Time: 05:55:22 PM PST US
    From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Long distance trailering
    Make sure you have the wing to tail braces and make sure to secure the elevator. And have a red ribbon on the nose or you will get a ticket.


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    Time: 07:00:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Long distance trailering
    From: "Lion8" <ctmcdowell@comcast.net>
    Thanks for the info. I will check that. -------- Tom (Lion8), Currently Flying an LSA Trike Kitfox IV coming soon. Southern New Jersey Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263621#263621


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    Time: 07:09:32 PM PST US
    From: ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Long distance trailering
    The height is no problem except for the drive up a Mickey dees'. Be sure t o have the wings level so as the angle of attack does not create lift or st ress on the plane. Also beware that the fellow who bought my Avid made it from Oregon to Oklahoma before the carry through spar broke. Be sure to su pport the leading edge spar down to the fuselodge. I have also heard of a wing folding out and hitting a pole. Ron NB Ore KFIV > Subject: Kitfox-List: Long distance trailering > From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net > Date: Thu=2C 17 Sep 2009 16:46:08 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > I have a 21ft. dual axle boat trailer with coil springs that I will be us ing to bring home a Kitfox IV soon. It will be tail forward. The Vertical S tab. is 70 in. high. That=2C with the trailer 22in. off the road is quite h igh. > Is their any tips for towing like this? > > -------- > Flying a Trike for 9 years. @ years LSA. Looking for a Kitfox IV or newer . > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263602#263602 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergy&form=MHEINA&publ=WLHMTAG&cre a=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1


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    Time: 07:41:28 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Crowder" <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net>
    Subject: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions..
    Deke, I used a Dremel tool along with various other small tools to carefully remove the potting compound and diodes. To test the diodes I took them to a retired HP electrical engineer I had once built a house for and who became a friend. He has a pretty complete lab at his house. As I remember due to the size of the diodes it was difficult to fully test them. I obtained some replacement diodes from a former NSI employee who I learned had purchased NSI's inventory. I can't think of his name at this moment, but he builds another well known EA81 aircraft conversion. I only replaced the diodes we thought to be failed. You are correct in that they do fit tightly and I was concerned that they might short out. I purchased the potting compound from an electrical supply company. I think I still have the bottle at home and will look for it along with my photos when I return from my current road trip. I gave the unused diodes to the engine purchaser who took it all back to Australia where he lives. My work was successful and I ground ran the engine several times with no problem after the repair--something I could not do before the repair. Jim Crowder > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:19 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > questions.. > > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > > Jim, I tore one of those isolation modules apart, mainly to see how > they > work. A friend and I determined that the failure wasn't from the > diodes > themselves, but the failure of the epoxy resin that is used as an > electrical > insulator to keep the high voltage from jumping across the diodes > causing > the engine to misfire. We also determined that the reason for the > epoxy > failure was the heat and vibration from the engine. Possibly placing > the > modules on the firewall away from the engine heat might prolong their > life, > but I think the module design would still cause failures eventually. > The fact that you were able to rebuild one of the modules successfully > speaks for your craftsmanship skills. Those little things are really > packed > in there. Did you use the same diodes? What sort of epoxy did you use > for > the potting compound? If you find the photos please post them. > Deke Morisse > Mikado Michigan > S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT > "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara > Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." > -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Crowder" <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:30 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > questions.. > > > > <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net> > > > > Howard, > > I at one time had that same engine and had a failure with one of the > > modules. I successfully rebuilt the module and replaced the solid > epoxy. > > I > > took some pictures of the operation to give to the individual who > bought > > the > > engine. I am replacing that engine with a Jabiru 3300. I came > across the > > pictures a few weeks ago while purging my files. If you like I will > try > > to > > find them again and attach them to an email to you. I am on the road > > currently traveling through North Carolina with my wife and another > couple > > but have had internet connections at night. Rebuilding was much > easier > > than > > I expected. > > > > Jim Crowder > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- > list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hfirm > >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:56 AM > >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > >> questions.. > >> > >> > >> This is Howard for those of you who will remember me...I used to fly > >> the purple monster in Northern Minnesota. I am helping a friend get > his > >> -4 in the air...we did a first flight last week....this plane had a > >> landing incident and was converted to nosewheel.....a few flights on > it > >> now and everything is going nice... > >> I'm having an ignition issue, I'm getting spark out of both A & B > but, > >> the module that the duel ign. goes to, is only letting half of the > >> spark through to the plugs. Module A is blocking half and module B > is > >> blocking half. We have to have both ignitions on or it will only run > on > >> 2 cylinders. These modules seem to be solid epoxy and no way to > >> open....Anything come up like this before? And while on the subject? > >> Where did Lance Wheeler go off to? Anybody hear from him? I hope > he's > >> doing well...That NSI is a nice package..I have a lot of time behind > >> them....It's fun to be in a kitfox again after so many years.. > >> Howard > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262589#262589 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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