---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/13/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 PM - Re: KF IV questions (Tom Jones) 2. 05:56 PM - What's your prop size/ prop clearance? (WurlyBird) 3. 06:31 PM - Re: What's your prop size/ prop clearance? (Guy Buchanan) 4. 07:18 PM - Re: What's your prop size/ prop clearance? (Patrick Reilly) 5. 09:09 PM - jetting a 582 (Malcolm Brubaker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:54 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: KF IV questions From: "Tom Jones" > 1st: I notice the mounting tabs for the cowling and turtle-deck are much > smaller than the ones on my KF III and the 1/4 turn fasters that I have > won't fit. What hardware is used here? I intend to essentially scratch > make the finishing kit. Mark, These fasteners are Duez studs. Winged 2600-3W on the turtle deck. 2600-8W flaperon horn bearing. 2600-4W top cowls. Phillips head 26S8-3 for the bottom rear cowl and 26S8-4 bottom front cowel. Receptacles are all 212-12N. Lock washers are all 2600-LW > 2nd: I see a few small horizontal tabs on each side on the upper tube > just aft of the wing in the turtle-deck area. What are these used for? > These tabs are where you mount a short piece of piano hinge to attach the lower half of the flaperon horn bearing material. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267791#267791 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:39 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: What's your prop size/ prop clearance? From: "WurlyBird" So I currently have a 66" GSC that I have decided I should just replace over trying to adjust. Yes, i will look for any reason to upgrade. I have decided I want to go with an Ivoprop ground adjustable. I was planning on a 68" 3 blade ultralight, however when I called Ivo and talked to a salesman he suggested a 72" 2 blade medium based on the 3:1 gearbox I have. So here are the questions; Anyone have a 582 with a 3:1 gearbox? What prop are you running? Anyone have a 72" prop on a KF mod 1, 2, 3 and how is your ground clearance? According to my measurements which are a little fuzzy due to the plane being on a trailer gives me about 17" of ground clearance in a level attitude, so a 72" should give me about 14" clearance. I don't see any reason this should be an issue and it sounds well within limits. Am I missing anything? The salesman was talking about the 72" 2 blade having about 20# more thrust then the 68" 3 blade and that sounds good to me. Thanks for the information guys. James -------- James Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop The ink is still drying on my new certificate Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267826#267826 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:40 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What's your prop size/ prop clearance? At 05:54 PM 10/13/2009, you wrote: >Anyone have a 582 with a 3:1 gearbox? What prop are you running? 70" Warp 3-blade. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What's your prop size/ prop clearance? From: Patrick Reilly James, I bought my FWF 582 with a 72" Warp Drive prop. It had flown on a model 3 for 100 hrs. I converted to a Lowell Fitt bush gear so now I have at least 4" more ground clearance. But, the 72" blade evidently had no ground clearance problem on the stock KF model 3 gear previous to my purchase. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:54 PM, WurlyBird wrote: > james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil> > > So I currently have a 66" GSC that I have decided I should just replace > over trying to adjust. Yes, i will look for any reason to upgrade. I have > decided I want to go with an Ivoprop ground adjustable. I was planning on a > 68" 3 blade ultralight, however when I called Ivo and talked to a salesman > he suggested a 72" 2 blade medium based on the 3:1 gearbox I have. So here > are the questions; > > Anyone have a 582 with a 3:1 gearbox? What prop are you running? > > Anyone have a 72" prop on a KF mod 1, 2, 3 and how is your ground > clearance? > > According to my measurements which are a little fuzzy due to the plane > being on a trailer gives me about 17" of ground clearance in a level > attitude, so a 72" should give me about 14" clearance. I don't see any > reason this should be an issue and it sounds well within limits. Am I > missing anything? > > The salesman was talking about the 72" 2 blade having about 20# more thrust > then the 68" 3 blade and that sounds good to me. Thanks for the information > guys. > > James > > -------- > James > Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop > The ink is still drying on my new certificate > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267826#267826 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:19 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Kitfox-List: jetting a 582 I am having jetting problems in my mod 2 w/ 582 and gsc prop- I also have the chopped muffler elbow- my plugs look all black but the egt are about right in all ranges any sugestions-- malcolm --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Clint Bazzill wrote: From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Larger Elevator =0A=0A=0A -The large elevator on the Kitfox Model IV increases elevator authority w ith the use of flaps.- I use flaps all the time and it does increase the nose up on landing.- It also increases the stick pressure during flight, that is good because it matches the roll forces a little better.- If you want to use it on a Model 3, probably won't work. =0A- =0AClint =0A- =0A- > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Larger Elevator > From: james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:44:57 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > mil> > > Thanks for the reply Clint. . . . > So, any input on how it works? :D > > Guy, I have not sealed the gap although I have read a little about it. A quick search has not yet turned up any stories about it or how to do it. Ha ve you done it? Does it make a big enough difference as to not need the lar ger elevator? What was your method? > > As always, thanks for the help. > > -------- > James > Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop > The ink is still drying on my new certificate > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267532#267532 > > > > > > >===================== >=========== > > > =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.