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1. 02:56 AM - Re: Re: Blue Bing Fuel Tubing (bob noffs)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Gas Tanks (One more time...) (Catz631@aol.com)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: KF IV questions (kirk hull)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: almost ready to fly (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
5. 08:45 AM - Re: almost ready to fly (Lynn Matteson)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: KF IV questions (Lynn Matteson)
7. 03:55 PM - Re: almost ready to fly (Patrick Reilly)
8. 06:25 PM - Re: almost ready to fly (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
9. 06:30 PM - Re: almost ready to fly (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
10. 07:21 PM - Re: KF IV questions (Tom Jones)
11. 09:14 PM - Re: Re: KF IV questions (Clint Bazzill)
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Bing Fuel Tubing |
chris, i have firesleeve on every inch of my fuel line firewall forward. it
could save your life inacase of a fire. ive never seen an installation
without it. acs has it and no surprise , it's pricey.
bob noffs
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM, carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Do you guys use any kind of fire shield on the fuel tubing? One of my
> mechanic buddies had some extra lying around. You know, the orange sleeve
> stuff with the little fibers inside (probably asbestos :( that you slide
> onto the fuel tubing. I think it's used on hydraulic lines on larger
> aircraft. I'm not sure how much good it would do if there were a fire
> though and it's ugly to boot.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268004#268004
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks (One more time...) |
As many of you know,I am a nut on British sports cars as well as aircraft.
I have been seeking some products that"might" help in this alcohol debacle.
Moss (a major British car parts supplier) sells a couple of products that
are made by MDR. One is called E-XTEND which purportedly keeps alcohol fuel
fresh for 60 days. I am using it in my Triumph TR3. The other product by
MDR is called E-ZORB which is suppose to absorb and emulsify moisture in
alcohol gas. Sta-bil makes a green marine formula for marine use with alcohol
gas. I just bought another product from a European motorcycle shop that
they are using in all their bikes. It is a product called STAR RON by
Starbrite. It is an enzyme fuel treatment for E-10 fuel.
I will undoubtedly use one of these products in my Rotax when the last
gas station in our area has to go to ethanol as these products are all fuel
stabilizers as should be used in our engines. How well they work with
alcohol,I don't know but more mfgrs are trying to find a solution.(and sell
products)
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Rotax 912UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV questions |
I believe the 3 tabs are for floats but don't quote me on that. Two of them
hold the radiator on mine
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:37 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: KF IV questions
> I do see the purpose of the large horizontal tab in between the two
> vertical mounting tabs for the turtle deck. But there are also three
> more small horizontal tabs forward of that position that are on the
> upper tube that angles down behind the rear wing mount.
Mark,
I looked at the pictures in my builder's log and see the tabs you are asking
about. There is nothing attached to them in my pictures. I can't find any
mention about them in the assembly manual either. I'll take a look next
time I'm at the airport to make sure. I'll let you know if I did use those
tabs to mount anything I've forgotten about.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | almost ready to fly |
Hi Paul=2C thanks for the compliment. The gear is just the standard Avid
MK IV gear. It is taller than the regular Avid and Kitfox gear though. It
isn't really any wider than the regular gear=2C although they do make a 14
" wider gear also. Take care=2C Jim Chuk Avids=2C Kitfox 4 Mn
> Date: Thu=2C 15 Oct 2009 22:51:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: almost ready to fly
> From: paul@eucleides.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
es.com>
>
> On Thu=2C October 15=2C 2009 9:51 pm=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> > Hi all=2C Perhaps some of you remember that I had a bit of a misshap wi
th my Avid MK IV
> > last winter while landing on skis on my short strip. I ended up going t
hrough the
> > whole plane and recovered it in the process. Here is a picture of what
it looks like
> > now.
>
> Wow! Jim you've done a beautiful job. Very sharp looking. Which bush gear
are you using?
> --
> Paul A. Franz
> Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
> Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
> Bellevue WA
>
> In general=2C the art of government consists of taking as much money as p
ossible from
> one party of the citizens to give to the other.
> -- Voltaire (1764)
>
> "The great advances of civilization=2C whether in architecture or
> painting=2C in science or in literature=2C in industry or agriculture=2C
> have never come from centralized government."
> --economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
>
> "The nine most terrifying words in the English
> language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
> -- Ronald Reagan
>
> "Man=2C once surrendering his reason=2C has no remaining guard against
> absurdities the most monstrous=2C and like a ship without rudder=2C is th
e
> sport of every wind. With such persons=2C gullibility=2C which they call
> faith=2C takes the helm from the hand of reason and the mind becomes a
> wreck."
> -- Thomas Jefferson
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| Subject: | Re: almost ready to fly |
Hi Jim-
Do you suppose the "taller, but no wider" gear had anything to do
with the ski mishap?
Nice restoration job, by the way...looks great.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 796.4 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~204 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> Hi Paul, thanks for the compliment. The gear is just the standard
> Avid MK IV gear. It is taller than the regular Avid and Kitfox
> gear though. It isn't really any wider than the regular gear,
> although they do make a 14" wider gear also. Take care, Jim Chuk
> Avids, Kitfox 4 Mn
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:51:14 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: almost ready to fly
> > From: paul@eucleides.com
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> <paul@eucleides.com>
> >
> > On Thu, October 15, 2009 9:51 pm, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> > > Hi all, Perhaps some of you remember that I had a bit of a
> misshap with my Avid MK IV
> > > last winter while landing on skis on my short strip. I ended up
> going through the
> > > whole plane and recovered it in the process. Here is a picture
> of what it looks like
> > > now.
> >
> > Wow! Jim you've done a beautiful job. Very sharp looking. Which
> bush gear are you using?
> > --
> > Paul A. Franz
> > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
> > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
> > Bellevue WA
> >
> > In general, the art of government consists of taking as much
> money as possible from
> > one party of the citizens to give to the other.
> > -- Voltaire (1764)
> >
> > "The great advances of civilization, whether in architecture or
> > painting, in science or in literature, in industry or agriculture,
> > have never come from centralized government."
> > --economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
> >
> > "The nine most terrifying words in the English
> > language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
> > -- Ronald Reagan
> >
> > "Man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against
> > absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder,
> is the
> > sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call
> > faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason and the mind becomes a
> > wreck."
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >======================
> &g======
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV questions |
Sounds like the shoulder belt mounting tabs, to me.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 796.4 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~204 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:45 AM, kirk hull wrote:
>
> I believe the 3 tabs are for floats but don't quote me on that.
> Two of them
> hold the radiator on mine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:37 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: KF IV questions
>
>
>
>> I do see the purpose of the large horizontal tab in between the two
>> vertical mounting tabs for the turtle deck. But there are also three
>> more small horizontal tabs forward of that position that are on the
>> upper tube that angles down behind the rear wing mount.
>
>
> Mark,
> I looked at the pictures in my builder's log and see the tabs you
> are asking
> about. There is nothing attached to them in my pictures. I can't
> find any
> mention about them in the assembly manual either. I'll take a look
> next
> time I'm at the airport to make sure. I'll let you know if I did
> use those
> tabs to mount anything I've forgotten about.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268053#268053
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: almost ready to fly |
Jim, Looks great! Is that a winter camo paint job for up there in the
northland?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all, Perhaps some of you remember that I had a bit of a misshap with my
> Avid MK IV last winter while landing on skis on my short strip. I ended up
> going through the whole plane and recovered it in the proccess. Here is a
> picture of what it looks like now. I'll be taking it to the AnP next week
> for the annual conditional inspection and then she can once again take to
> the sky. Take care, Jim Chuk Avids, Kitfox 4 Mn.
> ------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | almost ready to fly |
Thanks everyone on the compliments on the plane. And Pat=2C I suppose that
white would blend in with the snow pretty well. The red should stand out
though. Actually it was the color of the plane before I messed it up and I
had some of that color for patches I did. Take care=2C Jim Chuk Avids
=2C Kitfox 4 Mn
do not archive
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: almost ready to fly
From: patreilly43@gmail.com
Jim=2C Looks great! Is that a winter camo paint job for up there in the nor
thland?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
On Thu=2C Oct 15=2C 2009 at 11:51 PM=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.
com> wrote:
Hi all=2C Perhaps some of you remember that I had a bit of a misshap with
my Avid MK IV last winter while landing on skis on my short strip. I ended
up going through the whole plane and recovered it in the proccess. Here i
s a picture of what it looks like now. I'll be taking it to the AnP next w
eek for the annual conditional inspection and then she can once again take
to the sky. Take care=2C Jim Chuk Avids=2C Kitfox 4 Mn.
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| Subject: | almost ready to fly |
Lynn=2C as much as it would be nice to be able to blame the gear or someth
ing about the plane for the misshap=2C it was pretty much all my fault. If
the strip was longer=2C if I had been slower=2C if=2C if=2C if=2C mostly
=2C if I had gone around instead of trying to force it in things would have
ended better. Take care=2C Jim Chuk Avids=2C Kitfox 4=2C Mn
do not archive
> From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: almost ready to fly
> Date: Fri=2C 16 Oct 2009 11:27:23 -0400
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hi Jim-
> Do you suppose the "taller=2C but no wider" gear had anything to do
> with the ski mishap?
>
> Nice restoration job=2C by the way...looks great.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger
> Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 796.4 hrs
> Countdown to 1000 hrs~204 to go
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 16=2C 2009=2C at 9:48 AM=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul=2C thanks for the compliment. The gear is just the standard
> > Avid MK IV gear. It is taller than the regular Avid and Kitfox
> > gear though. It isn't really any wider than the regular gear=2C
> > although they do make a 14" wider gear also. Take care=2C Jim Chuk
> > Avids=2C Kitfox 4 Mn
> >
> > > Date: Thu=2C 15 Oct 2009 22:51:14 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: almost ready to fly
> > > From: paul@eucleides.com
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > >
> > <paul@eucleides.com>
> > >
> > > On Thu=2C October 15=2C 2009 9:51 pm=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> > > > Hi all=2C Perhaps some of you remember that I had a bit of a
> > misshap with my Avid MK IV
> > > > last winter while landing on skis on my short strip. I ended up
> > going through the
> > > > whole plane and recovered it in the process. Here is a picture
> > of what it looks like
> > > > now.
> > >
> > > Wow! Jim you've done a beautiful job. Very sharp looking. Which
> > bush gear are you using?
> > > --
> > > Paul A. Franz
> > > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
> > > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
> > > Bellevue WA
> > >
> > > In general=2C the art of government consists of taking as much
> > money as possible from
> > > one party of the citizens to give to the other.
> > > -- Voltaire (1764)
> > >
> > > "The great advances of civilization=2C whether in architecture or
> > > painting=2C in science or in literature=2C in industry or agriculture
=2C
> > > have never come from centralized government."
> > > --economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
> > >
> > > "The nine most terrifying words in the English
> > > language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
> > > -- Ronald Reagan
> > >
> > > "Man=2C once surrendering his reason=2C has no remaining guard agains
t
> > > absurdities the most monstrous=2C and like a ship without rudder=2C
> > is the
> > > sport of every wind. With such persons=2C gullibility=2C which they c
all
> > > faith=2C takes the helm from the hand of reason and the mind becomes
a
> > > wreck."
> > > -- Thomas Jefferson
> > >
> > >======================
> > &g======
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV questions |
I looked at my Classic 4 yesterday. The only thing I used the tabs in question
for is to attach the pitot static line and antenna lead to them on the left side
of the fuselage.
I have developed a theory that they are to attach fuel lines from wing tanks to
a rear mounted header tank. They would work for that I think. Any body use
them for that purpose?
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV questions |
Yes=2C works great. Pix if you want.
Clint
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: KF IV questions
> From: nahsikhs@elltel.net
> Date: Fri=2C 16 Oct 2009 19:19:16 -0700
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I looked at my Classic 4 yesterday. The only thing I used the tabs in que
stion for is to attach the pitot static line and antenna lead to them on th
e left side of the fuselage.
>
> I have developed a theory that they are to attach fuel lines from wing ta
nks to a rear mounted header tank. They would work for that I think. Any bo
dy use them for that purpose?
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax=2C 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg=2C WA
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268296#268296
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