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Sun 10/25/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:36 AM - Re: F210 reading very HIGH (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 04:55 AM - Re: F210 reading very HIGH (Catz631@aol.com)
     3. 05:11 AM - Re: F210 reading very HIGH (jridgway)
     4. 11:36 AM - Re: F210 reading very HIGH (jridgway)
     5. 05:07 PM - Re: Cruise Speeds model 5 (FlyboyTR)
     6. 05:55 PM - Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (FlyboyTR)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:36:52 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: F210 reading very HIGH
    I would suspect your sending unit is defective ,as mine was. Mine shot craps in about 8 months. Disassembly of the sending unit(with a hammer ) revealed a cheap misaligned impeller,that had worn off one of the sides thus giving inaccurate readings and then finally,none. I have a replacement sender(warranty) coming but they are behind in their orders.(many months) After looking on the net,I believe failures of these sending units are fairly common. If I ever get mine working again,I will just use it as a reference for bouncing fuel gauges as it has never been very accurate or easy to adjust.It just beeps and the digits don't change without constantly pushing the buttons. I guess you get what you pay for. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Rotax 912UL Milton,Fl


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    Time: 04:55:00 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: F210 reading very HIGH
    Jack, Leonard is right. I had forgotten but mine did that too. It just swapped over to liters all by itself and my readings were also bad. I did the reset and until it crapped out,it was back in the ballpark. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl


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    Time: 05:11:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: F210 reading very HIGH
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    THANKS ALL..... I will double check the settings. (I thought I had it set on Gal/Hr). the sender is a new replacement working with the old guage. I did find a funny loop/bend in the fuel line near the transducer that I will remove this week and also install the new guage (just in case the new transducer and guage both have both changed 'as a matched system' over the last 2 years. jack Thanks again to all. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269320#269320


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    Time: 11:36:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: F210 reading very HIGH
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    Hi all. I just went to the hanger and looked at the F210. I do not know how but it got set to lit/hr. I reset it to gal/hr and will double it later this week when I get a chance to fly. I have added this to my preflight checklist. Jack Thanks for suggestion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269365#269365


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    Time: 05:07:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cruise Speeds model 5
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Chris, As noted by Jeff, being nose heavy does make a difference in your speed. I carry my tools and ground anchors, etc as far aft as possible in my luggage area. It does make a difference...just how much will depend on how far forward your CG is. Another easy place to check are the flaperons. If they are trimmed to low, they will create a lot of drag and slow you down. That would not require a level floor, etc. Refer to your assembly manual and step through setting up the deflection on the flaperons. Travis -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269394#269394


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    Time: 05:55:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    We just returned from an 800 mile trip to our favorite flying destination, High Valley Resort in north GA. We developed a fuel flow problem while enroute. A little history. Two years ago I had a fuel flow problem (actually on the same trip!) that was caused by my new paper filters (located between the wing tanks and the header tank) air locking and not allowing fuel to flow. We completed the trip using just one tank. After returning home, I discovered that if I blew up through the fuel line, causing the filter to fill with air, it would not gravity flow! After either sucking on the line ( or blowing on the gas cap vent tube) to force the fuel to flow, it would flow without restriction. This was repeated numerous times, on both tanks with the exact same results! The filters had been replaced just prior to this event. This was also tested with new filters with the same results. After that, I returned to using the filters with the glass sight tubes. OKpresent day... I filled both tanks to the brim prior to our 400 mile, one way, flight. After about 45 minutes Kathy noticed there was no fuel in the header tank vent line. The right tank level was low and the left one was full (could not see the fuel levelabove the sight gauge). We checked and both fuel valves were on and we cycled them several times. I reduced power to the engine and set it up lean of peak to reduce the fuel flow. Shortly, fuel appeared in the vent tube (yes that was a relief!). Fortunately we were at 9,500, talking the Atlanta Center and had an airport with easy gliding distance (which also provided some peace of mind). After going back to full cruise power, the fuel level in the vent line started dropping. We turned the working tank off, pinched the vent line so it would force, hopefully, the fuel in the right tank to be sucked. After a few seconds, the left tank filter (which was filed with air) starting showing some fuel movement and slowly filled about way. I kept the vent line pinched for about a minute. Fuel flow was established on the left tank, but still not enough to fill the vent line. I turned the right tank back on and the vent line filled. I closed it again and then slowly opened it to allow partial flow and kept the fuel level in the vent line visible for about 30 minutes. After several gallons of fuel was pulled from the left tank, I opened the right valve completely and the vent tube filled. After that fuel flowed from both tanks and was not a problem. Heading Home We stopped for fuel while heading home. This time the same thing happened, except the tanks were reversed! Right tank would not flow. We did the same thingpinching off the vent line and forcing the system to suck from the non-flowing tank. Again, this was met with success. I am at a complete loss! The vent lines on the gas caps are open (checked with each fill-up and also with a pipe cleaner, etc). All my flexible fuel lines are 3/8 marine grade lines (vent line is clear Tygon). No lines are pinched. Once flowing, they flow with no restriction. There are no loops, etc in any of the lines. I would appreciate any helpful information regarding this problem! AlsoOn the return leg home this afternoonMy charging system went out! I just hope it's not another alternator coupling/clutch thats gone bad! Travis -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269410#269410




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