---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/04/09: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: Leaky Header tank (Catz631@aol.com) 2. 06:14 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (FlyboyTR) 3. 06:16 AM - Re: IO240 alternator swap and coupler failure (FlyboyTR) 4. 07:13 AM - Re: Fuel line antifreeze (Noelloveys) 5. 07:29 AM - Re: Newbie mistake - pulled the sump plug to drain my tanks (FlyboyTR) 6. 08:01 AM - Re: Fuel line antifreeze (Michel Verheughe) 7. 09:25 AM - Re: Newbie mistake - pulled the sump plug to drain my tanks (cschmokel) 8. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Lynn Matteson) 9. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Patrick Reilly) 10. 10:17 AM - N443DM Flies at last (DanM) 11. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Guy Buchanan) 12. 11:21 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Dorsal) 13. 11:34 AM - Re: N443DM Flies at last (Lynn Matteson) 14. 11:46 AM - Re: N443DM Flies at last (jdmcbean) 15. 11:46 AM - Re: pitot tube (bob noffs) 16. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Lynn Matteson) 17. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Lynn Matteson) 18. 03:02 PM - pitot tube (bob noffs) 19. 03:34 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Dorsal) 20. 04:37 PM - Re: pitot tube (Lowell Fitt) 21. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Patrick Reilly) 22. 05:18 PM - Re: N443DM Flies at last (Patrick Reilly) 23. 08:59 PM - Re: N443DM Flies at last (Weiss Richard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:37 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Leaky Header tank TITE SEAL is another good product for sealing fuel/oil fittings. We have used this product for years at our airport and it has never failed to do the job. It too is available from Spruce. You could have it in 2 days Travis. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:04 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) From: "FlyboyTR" Well...Nothing went boom at the airport! [Shocked] I injected some silicone into the fitting prior to cutting the nipple. All parts were removed without issue. The finger strainer was clean as a pin! There was a tiny bit of residue laying under the strainer in the little sump area. No heartburn there! Today I will complete the mods to the left wing root rib and reconnect the fuel system on that side. Then, do the right wing. The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, near the top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I know there are several available (I was looking at Murle Williams unit, self contained little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is there one that just screws into the tank? Lynn...good story! -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270930#270930 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:15 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: IO240 alternator swap and coupler failure From: "FlyboyTR" ????? Is there really such a part? I would be willing to take a look at it. ...would even give it a try (after a CLOSE inspection!). :D Travis Aerobatics(at)aol.com wrote: > Painful when you buy almost the exact same part from NAPA Aviation Supply for 60.00 and it has a full year warranty no questions.... hmmmmm > -- -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270931#270931 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:00 AM PST US From: "Noelloveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel line antifreeze Isopropyl is used as a dryer in things like brake air lines and fuel for cars but not close to the concentrations that ethanol is used in gas. A small bottle of isopropyl is usually enough to treat several gallons of gas. I wasn't able to find out if there is a phase separation process with isopropyl as there is with ethanol but on one occasion I had a considerable quantity of water in my snowmobile tank. The isopropyl didn't help at all and I'm sure I had it mixed at a very high concentration. The only reason I even tried the isopropyl is I thought I only had a little water in my tank. I was wrong. For much smaller quantities of water in the gas isopropyl has worked many times by many people. Ethanol will actually remove moisture form air and unfortunately mix it in with your gas. When it gets cold enough there is the possibility that the ethanol laden with water will phase separate in your fuel tank. I haven't found any evidence of this happening with isopropyl. So to answer your question ethanol will suspend moisture in your fuel as long as it doesn't get too cold or too concentrated with water. Long and short of it is if you get into a situation where you think you have to use antifreeze a low concentration of isopropyl would probably be better for your engine than ethanol which will under cooling conditions phase separate if the water concentration is high enough. Gee I didn't think I could get through that without mentioning the dangers of flying with... :-) Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gustafson Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel line antifreeze I know that ethanol and isopropyl are 2 different things, but, does having ethanol in auto gas prevent water in fuel from freezing like isopropyl does. In other words, is there still a need for isoprpyl to prevent fuel line and carb bowl icing. Note, I am aware of the draw backs of any kind of alcohol in aircraft fuel so please don't lecture me on that. Aaron Gustafson ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:08 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Newbie mistake - pulled the sump plug to drain my tanks From: "FlyboyTR" Carl, You're not the first person to do that! :D I have a twist lock, quick drain valve installed on my header tank for draining purposes. This is a link to them: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/curtisquickdv2.php. I have a Mr. Funnel that I hang off the valve to catch the fuel as it drains. I have siphoned a few times...but if time allows...prefer to drain through the header tank. Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270945#270945 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:26 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Fuel line antifreeze > From: Noelloveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca] > Ethanol will actually remove moisture from air Really Noel? Rats, now I understand why, when I open a bottle of moonshine, I feel so dry in my troath; it dries up the air! Cheers, Michel Do not archive!
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:32 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Newbie mistake - pulled the sump plug to drain my tanks From: "cschmokel" Thanks for the help everybody! I'm going to grab one of those twist lock plugs once I empty the tanks out. Speaking of which, does anybody have recommendations for electric fuel pumps for re-filling the tanks? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270968#270968 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:09 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) I have the same opening in my header, Travis, and if memory serves me, there is a float valve that will screw into this opening, but for some reason my switch wouldn't work....switch was too long, or something like that. I do know that you have to be careful screwing the switch into that opening, so that the float doesn't flop over and hit something and you break it off inside. I ended up getting the Williams can, and using my switch. He does sell it as a complete unit. I see the benefit of having his external can as giving you about a 2 minute earlier warning than the in-header-tank version....and I need all the help I can get. : ) There are also optical sensors available, I've heard. Ah yes, the good old days of welding bravery/stupidity. Nowadays I exhibit my bravery/stupidity in other ways. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:07 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: > > Well...Nothing went boom at the airport! [Shocked] I injected > some silicone into the fitting prior to cutting the nipple. All > parts were removed without issue. The finger strainer was clean as > a pin! There was a tiny bit of residue laying under the strainer > in the little sump area. No heartburn there! > > Today I will complete the mods to the left wing root rib and > reconnect the fuel system on that side. Then, do the right wing. > > The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, > near the top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I > know there are several available (I was looking at Murle Williams > unit, self contained little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is > there one that just screws into the tank? > > Lynn...good story! > > -------- > Travis Rayner > Mobile, AL > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF > Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop > ADI-II Autopilot > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270930#270930 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) From: Patrick Reilly Lynn, Tell me more about the float switch problems you experienced. I have one in my header tank, and the damn thing won't work. I pulled it out checked it with continuty meter. It seemed to work again . I put it back in and again it doesn't work. The switch is hooked to ground to close and complete the circuit with power directly to the warning light. The light stays lit. The circuit is complete all the time. I know I haven't got the switch in upside down. It has to be a magnetic switch of some kind as the pivoting float cannot, and does not attach by wire. I think the magnet must be too weak to work when installed in the tank for some reason. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > I have the same opening in my header, Travis, and if memory serves me, > there is a float valve that will screw into this opening, but for some > reason my switch wouldn't work....switch was too long, or something like > that. I do know that you have to be careful screwing the switch into that > opening, so that the float doesn't flop over and hit something and you break > it off inside. I ended up getting the Williams can, and using my switch. He > does sell it as a complete unit. I see the benefit of having his external > can as giving you about a 2 minute earlier warning than the in-header-tank > version....and I need all the help I can get. : ) There are also optical > sensors available, I've heard. > > Ah yes, the good old days of welding bravery/stupidity. Nowadays I exhibit > my bravery/stupidity in other ways. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:07 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: > >> >> Well...Nothing went boom at the airport! [Shocked] I injected some >> silicone into the fitting prior to cutting the nipple. All parts were >> removed without issue. The finger strainer was clean as a pin! There was a >> tiny bit of residue laying under the strainer in the little sump area. No >> heartburn there! >> >> Today I will complete the mods to the left wing root rib and reconnect the >> fuel system on that side. Then, do the right wing. >> >> The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, near the >> top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I know there are >> several available (I was looking at Murle Williams unit, self contained >> little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is there one that just screws >> into the tank? >> >> Lynn...good story! >> >> -------- >> Travis Rayner >> Mobile, AL >> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF >> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop >> ADI-II Autopilot >> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270930#270930 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:17:41 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last From: "DanM" Sunday, 11/1/09, 11:00 AM N443DM took the air for the first time. All went well with 1/2 hour flight ,all gages in the green, only one minor problem with a slightly heavy right wing. I didn't fly N443DM, being non current but I found an experienced Kitfox pilot to do the 1st flight as well as the 40 hrs phase 1. Once the 40 hour test phase is complete I have an instructor that will instruct me in my airplane which I think is the way to go.. -------- Dan Mc Intyre Kitfox IV , Phase 1 Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours Sensenich 62x46 N443DM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270981#270981 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:41 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) At 06:07 AM 11/4/2009, you wrote: >The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, near >the top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I know >there are several available (I was looking at Murle Williams unit, >self contained little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is there >one that just screws into the tank? That's where I have my low fuel sensor. It's a simple teeter-totter float sensor, probably got from ACS long ago. Check out Highwing LLC. They also have a sensor and have a better quality reputation than Murle. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:52 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) From: "Dorsal" FWIW, When I covered my wing I put a U-shaped aluminum reinforcing plate under the fuel fitting. If I should need to inspect the finger strainer I will be able to cut the fabric and fabricate a simple cover plate. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270992#270992 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:03 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last Way to go, Dan! It's a great feeling, isn't it, seeing your bird finally fly? That was the case with my 'fox, as I wasn't even a pilot yet, and had to enlist others to fly the 40 off. I got a guy who didn't even have a Kitfox in his "resume" but he knew what he was doing, and after the 40 was history, he completed my training in it....and the skies haven't been safe for others since. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, DanM wrote: > > > Sunday, 11/1/09, 11:00 AM N443DM took the air for the first time. > All went well with 1/2 hour flight ,all gages in the green, only > one minor problem with a slightly heavy right wing. I didn't fly > N443DM, being non current but I found an experienced Kitfox pilot > to do the 1st flight as well as the 40 hrs phase 1. > > Once the 40 hour test phase is complete I have an instructor that > will instruct me in my airplane which I think is the way to go.. > > -------- > Dan Mc Intyre > Kitfox IV , Phase 1 > Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours > Sensenich 62x46 > N443DM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270981#270981 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:37 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last Congrats Dan !!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DanM Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last Sunday, 11/1/09, 11:00 AM N443DM took the air for the first time. All went well with 1/2 hour flight ,all gages in the green, only one minor problem with a slightly heavy right wing. I didn't fly N443DM, being non current but I found an experienced Kitfox pilot to do the 1st flight as well as the 40 hrs phase 1. Once the 40 hour test phase is complete I have an instructor that will instruct me in my airplane which I think is the way to go.. -------- Dan Mc Intyre Kitfox IV , Phase 1 Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours Sensenich 62x46 N443DM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270981#270981 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot tube From: bob noffs thanks lowell, i am thinking of using nylaflo tubing to the pitot , made of alum. i guess i will have to do a little mix and match to get the alum. fittings to all fit together. bob noffs On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > > Bob, > > My factory pitot tube from Kitfox is 0.25" od and 0.182 id. aluminum tube. > > Lowell > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob noffs" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:39 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot tube > > > hi all, >> what inside diameter for a piot tube is being used successfully? >> thanks bob noffs >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:56 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) Why not put the inspection ring in place during the covering job? Then paint a couple of covers to match that area (stripes, etc), and you're ready to cut out the fabric and install the cover if need be. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Dorsal wrote: > > FWIW, When I covered my wing I put a U-shaped aluminum reinforcing > plate under the fuel fitting. If I should need to inspect the > finger strainer I will be able to cut the fabric and fabricate a > simple cover plate. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270992#270992 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:05 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) Boy, that IS weird. I'm tempted to think that the torque of screwing it in somehow causes a "tweak" in the body and it won't make contact in that configuration. I'm pretty sure that your wiring is the same as mine....hot to the bulb, and ground through the switch to a good ground. The only thing I can suggest is to check for "normally open" or "normally closed", but I'm sure you've done that. The switch should "connect" when the float drops, as I'm sure you know. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > Lynn, Tell me more about the float switch problems you experienced. > I have one in my header tank, and the damn thing won't work. I > pulled it out checked it with continuty meter. It seemed to work > again . I put it back in and again it doesn't work. The switch is > hooked to ground to close and complete the circuit with power > directly to the warning light. The light stays lit. The circuit is > complete all the time. I know I haven't got the switch in upside > down. It has to be a magnetic switch of some kind as the pivoting > float cannot, and does not attach by wire. I think the magnet must > be too weak to work when installed in the tank for some reason. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > Rockford, IL > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Lynn Matteson > wrote: > > I have the same opening in my header, Travis, and if memory serves > me, there is a float valve that will screw into this opening, but > for some reason my switch wouldn't work....switch was too long, or > something like that. I do know that you have to be careful screwing > the switch into that opening, so that the float doesn't flop over > and hit something and you break it off inside. I ended up getting > the Williams can, and using my switch. He does sell it as a > complete unit. I see the benefit of having his external can as > giving you about a 2 minute earlier warning than the in-header-tank > version....and I need all the help I can get. : ) There are also > optical sensors available, I've heard. > > Ah yes, the good old days of welding bravery/stupidity. Nowadays I > exhibit my bravery/stupidity in other ways. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:07 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: > > > Well...Nothing went boom at the airport! [Shocked] I injected > some silicone into the fitting prior to cutting the nipple. All > parts were removed without issue. The finger strainer was clean as > a pin! There was a tiny bit of residue laying under the strainer > in the little sump area. No heartburn there! > > Today I will complete the mods to the left wing root rib and > reconnect the fuel system on that side. Then, do the right wing. > > The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, > near the top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I > know there are several available (I was looking at Murle Williams > unit, self contained little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is > there one that just screws into the tank? > > Lynn...good story! > > -------- > Travis Rayner > Mobile, AL > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF > Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop > ADI-II Autopilot > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270930#270========= > he Contribution link below to find out more about > lder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com > s.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ > contribution > -Matt Dralle, Li - The Kitfox-List > Email Forum - > : > fox-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox- > List< - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > = --> h > > > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:52 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot tube From: bob noffs another question................what is being used to connect the pitot to the cabin? something semi rigid like nylo-seal or soft , flexible tubing that can be hose clamped to a ''barb''? bob noffs ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:41 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) From: "Dorsal" Lynn Matteson wrote: > Why not put the inspection ring in place during the covering job? > Then paint a couple of covers to match that area (stripes, etc), and > you're ready to cut out the fabric and install the cover if need be. > > Lynn > That is what I did except is was more like 1/2 an inspection ring, I probably didn't word my response very well. This could also be done after the covering job if need be. > > > > > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Dorsal wrote: > > > > > > > > FWIW, When I covered my wing I put a U-shaped aluminum reinforcing > > plate under the fuel fitting. If I should need to inspect the > > finger strainer I will be able to cut the fabric and fabricate a > > simple cover plate. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 70992#270992 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271039#271039 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:38 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot tube Bob, The typical material is polyethylene tubing. Check the fittings on the instruments for fittings and size, mine is 1/4 od. As I recall, with the simple bent aluminum pitot tube a short length of 1/4" ID tubing is used to connect the two in the wing. I plan on using some kind of sealant there. Maybe Fuellube and a couple of nylon wire ties. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob noffs" Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot tube > another question................what is being used to connect the pitot to > the cabin? something semi rigid like nylo-seal or soft , flexible tubing > that can be hose clamped to a ''barb''? > bob noffs > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) From: Patrick Reilly Lynn, Torque of installation wasn't enough to hurt the switch. It is a plastic tank. I have checked everything you mention. I'd like to get another switch and try it, but I am afraid it wouldn't work either. And, I'm tired of pulling the damn header tank. Pat Reilly On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Boy, that IS weird. I'm tempted to think that the torque of screwing it in > somehow causes a "tweak" in the body and it won't make contact in that > configuration. I'm pretty sure that your wiring is the same as mine....hot > to the bulb, and ground through the switch to a good ground. The only thing > I can suggest is to check for "normally open" or "normally closed", but I'm > sure you've done that. The switch should "connect" when the float drops, as > I'm sure you know. > > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote: > > Lynn, Tell me more about the float switch problems you experienced. I >> have one in my header tank, and the damn thing won't work. I pulled it out >> checked it with continuty meter. It seemed to work again . I put it back in >> and again it doesn't work. The switch is hooked to ground to close and >> complete the circuit with power directly to the warning light. The light >> stays lit. The circuit is complete all the time. I know I haven't got the >> switch in upside down. It has to be a magnetic switch of some kind as the >> pivoting float cannot, and does not attach by wire. I think the magnet must >> be too weak to work when installed in the tank for some reason. >> >> Pat Reilly >> Mod 3 582 Rebuild >> Rockford, IL >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: >> >> I have the same opening in my header, Travis, and if memory serves me, >> there is a float valve that will screw into this opening, but for some >> reason my switch wouldn't work....switch was too long, or something like >> that. I do know that you have to be careful screwing the switch into that >> opening, so that the float doesn't flop over and hit something and you break >> it off inside. I ended up getting the Williams can, and using my switch. He >> does sell it as a complete unit. I see the benefit of having his external >> can as giving you about a 2 minute earlier warning than the in-header-tank >> version....and I need all the help I can get. : ) There are also optical >> sensors available, I've heard. >> >> Ah yes, the good old days of welding bravery/stupidity. Nowadays I exhibit >> my bravery/stupidity in other ways. >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs >> Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go >> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection >> Status: flying (and learning) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:07 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: >> >> >> Well...Nothing went boom at the airport! [Shocked] I injected some >> silicone into the fitting prior to cutting the nipple. All parts were >> removed without issue. The finger strainer was clean as a pin! There was a >> tiny bit of residue laying under the strainer in the little sump area. No >> heartburn there! >> >> Today I will complete the mods to the left wing root rib and reconnect the >> fuel system on that side. Then, do the right wing. >> >> The header tank has a fitting/plug on the end/side of the tank, near the >> top. Was this for the addition of a low fuel sensor? I know there are >> several available (I was looking at Murle Williams unit, self contained >> little can, that sits on top of the tank). Is there one that just screws >> into the tank? >> >> Lynn...good story! >> >> -------- >> Travis Rayner >> Mobile, AL >> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF >> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop >> ADI-II Autopilot >> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270930#270========= >> >> he Contribution link below to find out more about >> lder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com >> s.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -Matt Dralle, Li - The Kitfox-List Email >> Forum - >> : >> fox-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List< >> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> = --> h >> >> >> >> >> =========================================================== >> > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last From: Patrick Reilly Dan, Congrats. I'm ready for airworthyness inspection and also have an experienced pilot to fly my plane. All I need for private license is checkride. What's your location? Nice to post that. I have met a couple of local KF pilots by posting my location. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, DanM wrote: > > Sunday, 11/1/09, 11:00 AM N443DM took the air for the first time. All went > well with 1/2 hour flight ,all gages in the green, only one minor problem > with a slightly heavy right wing. I didn't fly N443DM, being non current but > I found an experienced Kitfox pilot to do the 1st flight as well as the 40 > hrs phase 1. > > Once the 40 hour test phase is complete I have an instructor that will > instruct me in my airplane which I think is the way to go.. > > -------- > Dan Mc Intyre > Kitfox IV , Phase 1 > Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours > Sensenich 62x46 > N443DM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270981#270981 > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:42 PM PST US From: Weiss Richard Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N443DM Flies at last Dan, Congrats on the first flight. It's certainly an accomplishment to be proud of! May you have many years of fun, safe, flying. Way to go. 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