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Thu 11/05/09


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:09 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:45 AM - Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires? (cschmokel)
     2. 05:00 AM - pitot tube (bob noffs)
     3. 06:00 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Catz631@aol.com)
     4. 06:30 AM - Re: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires? (Tom Jones)
     5. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Teresa Staley)
     6. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 08:53 AM - Re: [?? Probable Spam] pitot tube (Guy Buchanan)
     8. 09:24 AM - Re: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires? (cschmokel)
     9. 09:39 AM - N443DM 1st Flight photos (DanM)
    10. 11:03 AM - Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos (akflyer)
    11. 12:07 PM - Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos (Lynn Matteson)
    12. 12:55 PM - Re: pitot tube (Dave G)
    13. 02:24 PM - Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos (DanM)
    14. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Patrick Reilly)
    15. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Patrick Reilly)
    16. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos (Lynn Matteson)
    17. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5) (Dacha)
    18. 09:55 PM - Re: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires? (Noelloveys)
    19. 09:56 PM - Re: Re: Fuel line antifreeze (Noelloveys)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:09:57 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Reminder
    Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 12:45:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires?
    From: "cschmokel" <cschmokel@gmail.com>
    Hey guys, I'm currently un-mounting a Rotax 912 ULS from my Kitfox. I noticed a couple of annoyances in the process of unconnecting everything ... The magneto wires on my Kitfox feature a braided coaxial shield. I'm not too enthused about the way these were handled by the original builder. The shield is basically bunched together and soldered to a ground wire. One of the solder joints was hanging on literally by a thread .. so what do you guys recommend for tying the braided magneto shield to a ground wire? I'm considering bunching the braid together, applying a dab of solder, then butt splicing to the ground wire. Also, my Ducati regulator plug has wires leading both to the engine and the instrument panel. It looks like each wire inserted into the plug is terminated in a female spade lug. However, they can't be pulled back out of the plug .. I'm guessing there is a plastic locking tab somewhere. Anybody know how to yank wires out of the Ducati regular plug? While we're on the subject .. does anybody have advice for unmounting an engine for the first time? Things to avoid, etc? Thanks!! Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271154#271154


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    Time: 05:00:31 AM PST US
    Subject: pitot tube
    From: bob noffs <icubob@gmail.com>
    hi lowell, is your ''poly'' tubing soft and flexible, secured with a hose clamp or is it semi rigid , requiring the compression fittings? thanks , bob noffs


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    Time: 06:00:44 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    Pat, I too am using the low fuel warning system provided by Lowell at _Highwing LLC_ (Highwing LLC) . It is a very nice unit that attaches just above the header tank on the vent line. It is light as a feather and includes a dash mounted warning light that warns when the header is not filling (giving you about 15-20 min warning to dry tank) I have had it about a year now and am glad to have it! Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl


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    Time: 06:30:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires?
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    > The magneto wires on my Kitfox feature a braided coaxial shield. I'm not too enthused about the way these were handled by the original builder. The shield is basically bunched together and soldered to a ground wire. One of the solder joints was hanging on literally by a thread .. so what do you guys recommend for tying the braided magneto shield to a ground wire? I'm considering bunching the braid together, applying a dab of solder, then butt splicing to the ground wire. > Carl, does this example look better? http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/shldwire/shldwire.html -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271181#271181


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    Time: 06:35:37 AM PST US
    From: "Teresa Staley" <tstaley@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    Pat, Wish I had one of those on my Kitfox5 when I my plane ran out of fuel with both sides showing 3/4 of fuel. Little off topic but am replacing windshield and side windows. Does anyone know what thickness on the windshield and the side windows I should be using? Also what type of material should I use? Will one sheet 4x8 cover both of these? Thanks, LeRoy Kitfox 5 Wheatland,Mo.


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    Time: 07:31:05 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    Ok, Dorsal, I gotcha... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) do not archive On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Dorsal wrote: > > > Lynn Matteson wrote: >> Why not put the inspection ring in place during the covering job? >> Then paint a couple of covers to match that area (stripes, etc), and >> you're ready to cut out the fabric and install the cover if need be. >> >> Lynn >> That is what I did except is was more like 1/2 an inspection ring, >> I probably didn't word my response very well. This could also be >> done after the covering job if need be. >> >> >>


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    Time: 08:53:41 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: pitot tube
    At 02:55 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: >what is being used to connect the pitot to the cabin? something semi >rigid like nylo-seal or soft , flexible tubing that can be hose >clamped to a ''barb''? I just let the nylo-seal run without interruption. It has enough bend capability to make the corner when I fold. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting


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    Time: 09:24:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires?
    From: "cschmokel" <cschmokel@gmail.com>
    Hah that's pretty clever! Thanks for the tip. Anybody know how to yank lugged wires out of one of those black Ducati regular plugs? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271226#271226


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    Time: 09:39:21 AM PST US
    Subject: N443DM 1st Flight photos
    From: "DanM" <danm@powerdesignelectric.com>
    Here's a few photos taken at Hanford,Ca. airport of the 1st flight on 11/1/09 -------- Dan Mc Intyre Kitfox IV , Phase 1 Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours Sensenich 62x46 N443DM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271228#271228 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00554_154.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00553_826.jpg


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    Time: 11:03:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    Good looking bird! I envy the windsock hanging straight down. Winds here have been 30+ knots for a week. Had one day that the winds were gusting over 65 knts.. was lifting one float out of the water about 2'. Was darn lucky my buddy was keeping an eye on my plane for me and moved some pallets of brick down to the edge of the lake and tied my plane down good... except he got out of the bob cat he was using to move the pallets and she took a swim LOL. he tied the plane down, heard a wierd burble burble glug glug and looked around... no bobcat... then he saw about 3" if the top rack sticking out of the water.... I told him he shoulda left it there, it would have made a good tie down LOL -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271234#271234


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    Time: 12:07:49 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos
    Dan- It looks (from the picture) like your exhaust pipes protrude through the lower cowl...it this correct? You might not be aware, but if you flip flop the muffler, the exhaust pipes will exit right through the lower cowl rear opening without making nary a cut into the cowl. When I got my engine, I cut two big holes in the cowl for the pipes then somebody let me know about the flip flop capability of the muffler. It sure makes taking the lower cowl off a lot easier. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:36 PM, DanM wrote: > <danm@powerdesignelectric.com> > > Here's a few photos taken at Hanford,Ca. airport of the 1st flight > on 11/1/09 > > -------- > Dan Mc Intyre > Kitfox IV , Phase 1 > Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours > Sensenich 62x46 > N443DM


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    Time: 12:55:20 PM PST US
    From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: pitot tube
    HI Bob, Mine is slipped over the aluminum pitot tube about 1.5" and secured with a zip tie. at the ASI it goes inside a 1/4" ID soft clear fuel type line which bridges between the Black poly line and the ASI barbed fitting. Zip ties over both. There is no high pressure here, you are unlikely to ever see even a 1 full PSI over static pressure. ----- Original Message ----- From: bob noffs To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot tube hi lowell, is your ''poly'' tubing soft and flexible, secured with a hose clamp or is it semi rigid , requiring the compression fittings? thanks , bob noffs


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    Time: 02:24:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos
    From: "DanM" <danm@powerdesignelectric.com>
    Lynn, they do go out through the cowl! I wasn't aware that the muffler could be reversed- bummer- cut two big holes in the cowl, thanks for the info. -------- Dan Mc Intyre Kitfox IV , Phase 1 Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours Sensenich 62x46 N443DM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271259#271259


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    Time: 04:37:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Dick, Thanks for info. Hell, I have a Lowell Fitt trim tab, Lowell Fitt radiator shutters and a Lowell Fitt bush gear. Might as well make it a Lowell Fitt sweep and use his header tank fuel warning system too. I haven't flown mine yet, but that bush gfear is awesome! Lowell was apoligizing for the fairing fit up. I don't know how you could get it any closer. The fairing fit up was as close to perfect as possible. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:21 AM, <Catz631@aol.com> wrote: > Pat, > I too am using the low fuel warning system provided by Lowell at Highwing > LLC <http://highwing+llc/>. It is a very nice unit that attaches just > above the header tank on the vent line. It is light as a feather and > includes a dash mounted warning light that warns when the header is not > filling (giving you about 15-20 min warning to dry tank) I have had it about > a year now and am glad to have it! > Dick > Maddux > Fox 4 > Milton,Fl > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 04:44:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Leroy, I saw a Barnstormer ad from a Staley from MO, can't remermberr 1st name, looking for an NSI engine. I gave the name and # to a friend of mine with an engine for sale. That wasn't you, was it? I made my winshield and cabin top a 2 pieceer with the cabin top tinted and the windshield out of a softer heavier thicker plastic of somekind, I would be afraid to recommend the windshield material until it proves it self. Was easy to work with, but the stressed portion at top corners has stress marks in it already. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Teresa Staley <tstaley@centurytel.net>wrote: > Pat, > Wish I had one of those on my Kitfox5 when I my plane ran out of fuel with > both sides showing 3/4 of fuel. > Little off topic but am replacing windshield and side windows. Does anyone > know what thickness on the windshield and the side windows I should be > using? Also what type of material should I use? Will one sheet 4x8 cover > both of these? > Thanks, > LeRoy > Kitfox 5 > Wheatland,Mo. > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:48:24 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: N443DM 1st Flight photos
    If you look inside my lower cowl there are two oblong patches in it from my repair job. Making mine worse was the fact that the pipes out of the Jabiru muffler were splayed at an angle, requiring that the holes be even larger than necessary just to make it through the cowl. All you have to do is turn the muffler end-for-end, and the pipes will go "back and down" instead of "down and back". Easier to do than to explain why. But be sure to support the pipes with a flexible hanger like an automotive tail pipe hanger, or a stainless steel cable up to the lower firewall. The unsupported length of those pipes will vibrate and break off and you don't want that...neither did I, but it happened to me and I could have had a bad fie as a result, but I got lucky. So please support those pipes. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 807.7 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~193 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Nov 5, 2009, at 5:21 PM, DanM wrote: > <danm@powerdesignelectric.com> > > Lynn, they do go out through the cowl! I wasn't aware that the > muffler could be reversed- bummer- cut two big holes in the cowl, > thanks for the info. > > -------- > Dan Mc Intyre > Kitfox IV , Phase 1 > Jabiru 2200 , 4.0 hours > Sensenich 62x46 > N443DM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271259#271259 > >


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    Time: 07:06:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dacha" <tstaley@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Problems, Again! (Vixen, Series-5)
    Pat, Yes your friend called but I haven't had time yet to respond. I just learned this afternoon that the 5's windshield and the other part behind this are two pieces. Only need to replace the rear section. Thanks for your info and response. LeRoy


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    Time: 09:55:41 PM PST US
    From: "Noelloveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires?
    Never use solder on any joint that has to endure vibration. The solder wicks up into the strands of the wire and causes metal fatigue where the wicking ends. That is what happened on your present wiring. Places where you can expect vibration (read airplane, car , motorcycle... Etc..) should be connected using decent crimped on connectors. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cschmokel Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:14 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Shield on magneto wire? Ducati regulator plug wires? Hey guys, I'm currently un-mounting a Rotax 912 ULS from my Kitfox. I noticed a couple of annoyances in the process of unconnecting everything ... The magneto wires on my Kitfox feature a braided coaxial shield. I'm not too enthused about the way these were handled by the original builder. The shield is basically bunched together and soldered to a ground wire. One of the solder joints was hanging on literally by a thread .. so what do you guys recommend for tying the braided magneto shield to a ground wire? I'm considering bunching the braid together, applying a dab of solder, then butt splicing to the ground wire. Also, my Ducati regulator plug has wires leading both to the engine and the instrument panel. It looks like each wire inserted into the plug is terminated in a female spade lug. However, they can't be pulled back out of the plug .. I'm guessing there is a plastic locking tab somewhere. Anybody know how to yank wires out of the Ducati regular plug? While we're on the subject .. does anybody have advice for unmounting an engine for the first time? Things to avoid, etc? Thanks!! Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271154#271154


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    Time: 09:56:27 PM PST US
    From: "Noelloveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: RE: Fuel line antifreeze
    Michael: I hope you are not so brave to drink ethanol! It is only half as toxic as Isopropyl. It will do a lot more than dry out your throat. Best to stick to Scotch :-)... or Rum... or Gin.... or .... Noel Oh yes... Cheers!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Fuel line antifreeze > From: Noelloveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca] > Ethanol will actually remove moisture from air Really Noel? Rats, now I understand why, when I open a bottle of moonshine, I feel so dry in my troath; it dries up the air! Cheers, Michel Do not archive! <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com</a> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com</a> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com</a> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution</a> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</a> </b></font></pre>




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