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1. 07:23 AM - Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay (akflyer)
2. 08:47 AM - Re: Purging oil (Kitfox George)
3. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay (fox5flyer)
4. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay (Jim Corner)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay (akflyer)
6. 12:16 PM - Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay (Boilermaker2000)
7. 03:18 PM - Re: Purging oil (Roger Lee)
8. 04:54 PM - Re: Rotax spark plugs (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
9. 08:05 PM - kitfox 3 (Ken Richter)
10. 09:00 PM - Re: Rotax spark plugs (Roger Lee)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay |
One of the guys on the Yahoo avid group figured it out. This is a Fisher FP 606.
Steve, open your eyes, do a google search for FP 606, then relist your add. There
is noting even close between the two aircraft other than the fact that they
both fly...
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
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Installation Manual starting on page 76.=0A-George=0ASport Model - 914- a
lmost, but not yet!=0Ado not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________
_________=0AFrom: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>=0ATo: kitfox list
<kitfox-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Fri, November 13, 2009 11:51:59 AM=0AS
ubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Purging oil=0A=0AI have a 912 -operators manual
downloaded on my computer, but I don't see the procedure for purging the oi
l listed in it.--Where can I download this info?- Thanks,- Jim Chuk
- Avids, Kitfox 4- Mn=0A-=0A________________________________=0ADate:
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:09:43 -0800=0AFrom: kitfoxsport@verizon.net=0ASubject:
Re: Kitfox-List: Purging oil=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0A=0A=0AThe in
spection for correct venting-or priming of the hydraulic tappets says to
warm up the engine, take off valve covers then press on rocker arms. I have
a motor that had been tore down and reassembled by someone else-and sat
around for awhile. I-have purged the oil system but not checked the tappe
ts and was wondering if checking of the hydraulic valve tappets cold will g
ive me any indication and / or push any air out.=0A-George=0ASport Model
(7+)- 914- almost, but not yet!=0Ado not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________
_____________________=0AFrom: "Catz631@aol.com" <Catz631@aol.com>=0ATo: kit
fox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, November 13, 2009 8:03:49 AM=0ASubject:
Re: Kitfox-List: Purging oil=0A=0A=0ALuis,=0A- It is a pain that's for s
ure but after you do it a few times it gets easier (like carb syncing) I ha
ve had to purge my system several times. Have never had a problem with air
in my lifters so far but I guess it can happen. In the Lockwood course Dean
(my instructor)-said to put a hammer against your chest and lean your bo
dy-heavily against the lifter arm with the handle of the hammer-on the
arm where it meets the lifter rods.(hammer head on your chest)-This shoul
d compress the hydraulic lifters enough so that if there is-any air in th
em it-should-compress enough to show up in excessive-tappet clearance
s.=0A- Just follow the Rotax instructions and it will lead you thru the p
rocedure.=0A---------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay |
I have just one question, Steve. Now that you know that the airplane you
are selling is not a Kifox, why would you continue to run it on Ebay trying
to pass it off as something it's clearly not? Instead you act with
aggression toward those who point it out to you. In my very humble opinion
if you are an honorable person you would either remove the ad or change it
so that someone doesn't end up buying something they later find out is
bogus.
Deke
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290368872471&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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> I am the seller of this item. I am not a scamer, but mearly a novice at
> this hobby. Before you said say things, you should ask me directly.
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> THe faa paperwork clearly shows kitfox. model t2. THat is all I can say.
>
> So watch your mouth.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay |
I have taken the time to report the item to Ebay customer support
team, reporting the item as fraudulent. Their reply says they will
investigate within 72hours. Interesting to note that the listing
matures in 3 days 1 hr.
Hopefully they will remove the item in time.
Jim Corner
Model 2, 582,. Ivo med !FA, 1100 hrs
Model 5, 0-235 --110 hrs.
Calgary, AB
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay |
I sent the guy another reply on ebay, and he has now updated the listing under
the questions. He talked to J. Mc Bean (I guess cause we are all so stupid) and
he now knows it is not a KF II. He stated that it is now believed to be, or
"emulates" the Fisher FP 606.
Wonder where the bidding will go now... I would hope that guys bidding on it would
have known it was not a KF of any type.
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2 ? on ebay |
The specs are completely different between these planes. 950lbs gross weight listed
vs 500lbs actual is pretty serious. Guess the winner's widow won't have
any problem taking all of Steve's money.
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As per Rotax, any time the oil circuit has been opened you are supposed to do a
purge. If all you do is take out the oil drain plug and take the filter off in
your normal oil change and open nothing else then you don't need to do a purge.
This is why A&P's should have a Rotax class because I have seen many times
an A&P thinks he is going to get more oil out of the system by rotating the prop
or taking off the oil cooler lines to drain more oil and never does a purge.
Once the oil drain is open or the filter off do not rotate the prop to get
more oil out unless you just feel like you want to do an oil purge just for the
fun of it. The other big thing I see A&P's do is put anti seize on the plugs.
Heat conducting paste only for the 912/914 and dry threads on 582's.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax spark plugs |
On Sat, November 14, 2009 3:15 pm, Roger Lee wrote:
clip clip
> The other big thing I see A&P's do is put anti seize
> on the plugs. Heat conducting paste only for the 912/914 and dry threads on 582's.
I guess I'll have to say you learn something every day. Why dry threads on a 582?
I've
seen them greased with a thin coat of Lithium chassis grease. I thought this would
be
a good thing to keep them from seizing. Please explain. I can guess why not to
put
anti-seize on the 912/914 plugs and instead use heat conducting paste. But that
is
something I didn't know either. What's on them when they come from the factory?
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Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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estimate of their real tendency to advance or obstruct the public good; and
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which require an unusual exercise of it."
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from
one party of the citizens to give to the other.
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is there anyone on the list with a Subaru engine in a model 3 I would
like to hear how this engine performs on a model 3 ,also has anyone
shortened the wings on a model 3 like the speedster Idon't see why it
coudn't be done.
Thanks Ken Richter
model 3 582
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax spark plugs |
582 plug threads are dry because of the aluminum heads and if you apply any lube
you will not torque them correctly (correct torque is 238 in/lbs), they will
be over torqued and it should be on a cold engine, too.
(page 11-4 of the 2 stroke maint. manual)
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
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