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1. 02:27 AM - Re: Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (Dave G)
2. 04:41 AM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (Catz631@aol.com)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (Roger Lee)
4. 05:05 AM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (dave)
5. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
6. 07:32 AM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (akflyer)
7. 12:37 PM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
8. 01:25 PM - Re: Model IV skis required (Malcolm Brubaker)
9. 02:54 PM - Skis required (jdmcbean)
10. 03:46 PM - Re: Skis required (Av8r3400)
11. 05:35 PM - Carburetor air intake (Jimz)
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
I understand all that but after hearing of lead plating destroying bottom
ends a few times I just wanted to know if this isn't one of those stories
everyone hears and assumes to be true. It sounds a little unlikely to me and
I was hoping someone could point to a definitive source of evidence.
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From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:18 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me)
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> Simple solution is to use reg grade gas.
>
> Our 582s and 912 ul do not need over 87 octane.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
Dave,
I read an article, a while back, on a British Rotax 912 site that did
show pictures of the lead accumulation all over the rods and inside the gearbox
of a 912 as a result of using avgas.Unfortunately, I can't relocate that
site. It was a terrific article on the care and feeding of the 912 written by
a man named Conrad I believe. The pictures were great. It also had a great
picture of damage to the valve spring area caused by a collapsed lifter as a
result of air intrusion into the oil system. It hammered home to me the
value of doing the lifter check as part of the purge if you have to break open
the oil system.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Rotax 912
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
Hi Dave,
If the NGK numbers are the same then it's the same plug. i.e. DCPR8E for a Rotax
912ULS is the same plug regardless if it comes from Rotax, a motorcycle shop,
a marine shop or an auto parts store. For the longest time I was getting my
NGK plugs from "Marine Discount" on the web. They used to be a lot cheaper. I
usually by 32 plugs at a time.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
Roger ,
I was referring to the on going debate of the NGK B8Es or BR8ES
Rotax supplied are solid tipped and gapped .018
Auto parts one have alum tip Screw ons plus they gapped at .03 to 035
The Solid tipped outlast the Alum tipped ones by 4 to 6 times I find.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
I use NGK's, however be certain that the plug caps do not screw on or off.
Make certain also that these caps are of a bronze color and not aluminum. I
f you use auto plugs with screw on aluminum end caps, they WILL arc inside
the cups and burn the inside of the cups and blacken the inside. You will e
ventually lose electrical contact with these type plugs. -Lion8
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From: "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:25:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me)
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dave wrote:
> Thanks Roger.
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> Hey what is your thoughts on NKG from Rotax verus the auto parts store pl
ugs?
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> I got 100 to 150 hours out of mine in 582s =C2-with oil injection
I get NGKs from the auto parts tore.
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Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
You can get solid tipped ones at auto parts stores or motor sports shops, I buy
them all the time for my sleds and the plane. Rotax does not have NGK make them
special for them. They are a stock NGK plug. I buy them for 1.98 each and
don't have any issues taking 10 seconds to gap the plug. Go to any parts store
and ask for NGK 3961.
How many times is this gonna get the crap kicked out of it? few times a year on
the average from what I have seen. Some must suffer from memory loss... happens
when you start getting older Dave :-)
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Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
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| Subject: | Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) |
On Fri, December 11, 2009 4:38 am, Catz631@aol.com wrote:
> Dave,
> I read an article, a while back, on a British Rotax 912 site that did
> show pictures of the lead accumulation all over the rods and inside the gearbox
> of a 912 as a result of using avgas.Unfortunately, I can't relocate that
> site.
Perhaps this article?
<http://www.conairsports.co.uk/downloads/912%20maintenance%20article%20-%20inc%20carb%20bal.pdf>
Or as a TinyURL:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/yda53ld>
Those are the first ever photos I've seen of any kind of deposits in the relatively
cooler bottom end. After 1000 hours, still not much there compared to the deposits
on
the valves.
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Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
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| Subject: | Model IV skis required |
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> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:01:20 -0800
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> I need a set of 503 intake manifolds with oil injection ports. I will buy
or trade a non oil injection set plus $$.
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> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
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This may be a little pre-mature.. but we have a new set of wheel penetrating
skis becoming available.. They are Composite and are currently setup of the
Grove gear (will be for tube shortly) Total weight is approximately 14 lbs
per ski and can be setup for 600-6, 800-6 or 8.50-6 tires. Give a call for
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| Subject: | Re: Skis required |
$$ How much? $$
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Thanks,
Av8r3400
Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
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| Subject: | Carburetor air intake |
I have seen an IO-240 powered Kitfox that took the carb. air from inside the cowl
instead of having a filter outside for ram air. Has anyone tried this with
an 0-200 installation? Thanks
Jim
Series 5 0-200
Lake Elmo MN 21D
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