---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/13/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:18 AM - Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) (dave) 2. 07:51 AM - Sensenich propeller (catz631@aol.com) 3. 11:07 AM - Re: Sensenich propeller (jdmcbean) 4. 11:51 AM - Re: Sensenich propeller (fox5flyer) 5. 11:57 AM - Re: Sensenich propeller (Dacha) 6. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Skis required (Marco Menezes) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:44 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Lead plating (was EGTs are killing me) From: "dave" Roger, Very well said. And heck I am not happy with some of the Rotax prices but I will say that Rotax parts do seem to perform well overall. The rebuilt cranks always come back for a new rotax crank, the cheap plugs get swapped out every 10 to 20 hours -- the rest of us go 100 to 150 hours. See how long a sno mo 40 $ piston last running at 6000 rpm but the Rotax ones cost 240 $ but seem to make it. etc etc etc same as oils, I have just under 10 regulars at my strip with Rotax 2 strokes and in 10,000 hours of flying in last 10 years no one uses pennzoil or synthetics but we all use castrol super 2 stroke, Bombardier oil or Shell Advance. We all use Regular grade gas- with (ethanol in the last 3 years) And I am happy to say that no Forced approaches from engine failures have happened with us. We have had 2 prop failures only and now most guys use safety cables. btw - Nothing wrong with pennzoil it just not readily availble to us . Dave -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277393#277393 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:24 AM PST US From: catz631@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller I recently talked to a friend of mine who is the Southeast distributor for the Paradise LSA.He told me that during one of his expos demonstrating the aircraft that excellent results have been reported on other aircraft by using the Sensenich composite ground adjustable propeller. He said, as an example, that the maker of the Apollo Fox was reporting a 10-15 mph increase in cruise speed with no other changes and it was very smooth running. I had looked at this prop at Sebring and Lakeland and had wondered about it. You adjust the pitch by one screw on the nose which would sure be easier than my Warp. My friend said they were going to put the Sensenich on the Paradise and try it out. Has anyone tried this prop on a Kitfox ? The Apollo Fox is pretty much a clone so if it works on it, it should do the same for us. I know that reported performance figures are often "baloney" but I thought I would just throw this out there. In any case I will let the group know the results if and when they test this prop on the Paradise. If it does give good results then it will be EBAY for my Warp (which has been a very good prop) Dick Maddux Fox 4 912UL Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:02 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller Dick, We are a distributor for Sensenich and Whirlwind and I can tell you first hand that the 2 blade prop will have a vibration that you will not be happy with. We have tried both at length.. We now have a 3 blade Whirlwind on our S-LSA and have e new 3 blade Sensenich we are testing. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of catz631@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller I recently talked to a friend of mine who is the Southeast distributor for the Paradise LSA.He told me that during one of his expos demonstrating the aircraft that excellent results have been reported on other aircraft by using the Sensenich composite ground adjustable propeller. He said, as an example, that the maker of the Apollo Fox was reporting a 10-15 mph increase in cruise speed with no other changes and it was very smooth running. I had looked at this prop at Sebring and Lakeland and had wondered about it. You adjust the pitch by one screw on the nose which would sure be easier than my Warp. My friend said they were going to put the Sensenich on the Paradise and try it out. Has anyone tried this prop on a Kitfox ? The Apollo Fox is pretty much a clone so if it works on it, it should do the same for us. I know that reported performance figures are often "baloney" but I thought I would just throw this out there. In any case I will let the group know the results if and when they test this prop on the Paradise. If it does give good results then it will be EBAY for my Warp (which has been a very good prop) Dick Maddux Fox 4 912UL Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:30 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller Dick, I don't have a Sensenich, but I can offer my opinion about the 10-15 mph airspeed increase over the Warp. The word you used "Baloney" says it all. A small difference could be believable, but that is more than I can swallow. Probably best to find someone who doesn't have anything to gain to obtain an opinion about it. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 438+ TT "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ----- Original Message ----- From: catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller I recently talked to a friend of mine who is the Southeast distributor for the Paradise LSA.He told me that during one of his expos demonstrating the aircraft that excellent results have been reported on other aircraft by using the Sensenich composite ground adjustable propeller. He said, as an example, that the maker of the Apollo Fox was reporting a 10-15 mph increase in cruise speed with no other changes and it was very smooth running. I had looked at this prop at Sebring and Lakeland and had wondered about it. You adjust the pitch by one screw on the nose which would sure be easier than my Warp. My friend said they were going to put the Sensenich on the Paradise and try it out. Has anyone tried this prop on a Kitfox ? The Apollo Fox is pretty much a clone so if it works on it, it should do the same for us. I know that reported performance figures are often "baloney" but I thought I would just throw this out there. In any case I will let the group know the results if and when they test this prop on the Paradise. If it does give good results then it will be EBAY for my Warp (which has been a very good prop) Dick Maddux Fox 4 912UL Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:06 AM PST US From: "Dacha" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sensenich propeller If you are going to sell your Warp prop let me know I need one. LeRoy Kitfox5 Subaru ea-81 Missouri ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:35 PM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Skis required Dave, - Could you send pics and specs? I assume you bought them for your model 2. D id you use them? How did they work out? - I'm interested. - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch Hersey, Michigan --- On Sat, 12/12/09, David Dawe wrote: From: David Dawe Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Skis required -Hi I have a fiberglass set (3) new, asking $350 - Dave Kitfox ll - - > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Skis required > From: dave@cfisher.com > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:51:44 -0800 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > THose look like the one a guy makes here in Canada and if so about 1500$ or so. > http://www.turbulence.ca/an/skisan.html#History > > > Here is used ones for 450 a pair. > > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=155 > > > I have 4130 Skis available. You send the specs and size wanted for other than 3/4 " axle size on Standard tube gear. > > 8 to 12 " wide and 48 to 60" long. > > Prices starting at 850$ for straight skis with UHMW bottoms. > Considering Wheels Skis for King fox and other 21 " tires as they seem th e most popular tire going. > > 21 " tires available for 35 $ each > > -------- > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > http://www.cfisher.com/ > Awesome *New Forum * > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ > Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth > http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277283#277283 > > >======================= > > > Get a great deal on Windows 7 and see how it works the way you want. 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