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1. 05:42 AM - Kiev prop (Catz631@aol.com)
2. 05:57 AM - Re: Repairman Certificate (Tom Jones)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: Repairman Certificate (Bob Brennan)
4. 06:54 AM - Re: Repairman Certificate (Bob Brennan)
5. 06:55 AM - Re: Repairman Certificate (Bob Brennan)
6. 02:30 PM - Re: 912 prop choice (akflyer)
7. 03:00 PM - Re: Kiev prop (Mark Napier (napierm))
8. 04:19 PM - Oil Injection reservoir size? (Tom Jones)
9. 06:06 PM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
10. 09:06 PM - Re: KF IV for sale on eBay (Marco Menezes)
11. 10:09 PM - Re: Re: 912 prop choice (Clint Bazzill)
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Has anyone got an opinion on the Kiev prop on a 912UL in a Kitfox 4 ? I
have seen several Highlanders that use this prop and they all seem happy with
them. It is a beautifully made piece of art, that's for sure. I talked to the
importer yesterday and he said I would gain a few mph in cruise and be able
to slow the idle rpm down to around 1400 rpm on approach thus reducing my
ground roll (kind of acts like a speed brake) The later would certainly be
useful as I have had some problems getting the rpm low enough on approach with
my Warp.
I am just tossing this around in my head and would appreciate any
opinions.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
912UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman Certificate |
> Can anyone tell me where to look or who to call to find the nearest repairman
class?
If you are looking for LSA repairman courses, a schedule of classes is on the second
page.
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/light_sport/media/repairman_course_listings.pdf
A discussion on the Oshkosh 365 forums.
http://www.oshkosh365.org/ok365_DiscussionBoardTopic.aspx?id=1235&boardid=147&forumid=175&topicid=3266
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Repairman Certificate |
I got my repairman's certificate through the EAA's Sportair program - they
have classes all around the country. Here is the link and the schedule of
upcoming classes:
http://www.sportair.com/
http://www.sportair.com/schedule.html
Be aware that these classes are *only* for the owner of an airplane that
has, or will have, and ELSA Airworthiness Certificate. If you are the
builder of an EAB airplane you don't need to take this course to get your
Repairman's Certificate, just apply for it through your DAR when getting
your airworthiness inspection - he must sign off that you are "knowledgable"
enough to do your own inspections. If you are not the builder of an EAB, or
the owner of an ELSA, you cannot get a Repairman's Certificate (unless of
course you are a full A&P, but then you don't need one!)
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop
Wrightsville Pa
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WurlyBird
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Repairman Certificate
<james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Can anyone tell me where to look or who to call to find the nearest
repairman class?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
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| Subject: | Repairman Certificate |
I got my repairman's certificate through the EAA's Sportair program - they
have classes all around the country. Here is the link and the schedule of
upcoming classes:
http://www.sportair.com/
http://www.sportair.com/schedule.html
Be aware that these classes are *only* for the owner of an airplane that
has, or will have, and ELSA Airworthiness Certificate. If you are the
builder of an EAB airplane you don't need to take this course to get your
Repairman's Certificate, just apply for it through your DAR when getting
your airworthiness inspection - he must sign off that you are "knowledgable"
enough to do your own inspections. If you are not the builder of an EAB, or
the owner of an ELSA, you cannot get a Repairman's Certificate (unless of
course you are a full A&P, but then you don't need one!)
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop
Wrightsville Pa
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WurlyBird
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Repairman Certificate
<james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Can anyone tell me where to look or who to call to find the nearest
repairman class?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277685#277685
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| Subject: | Repairman Certificate |
I got my repairman's certificate through the EAA's Sportair program - they
have classes all around the country. Here is the link and the schedule of
upcoming classes:
http://www.sportair.com/
http://www.sportair.com/schedule.html
Be aware that these classes are *only* for the owner of an airplane that
has, or will have, and ELSA Airworthiness Certificate. If you are the
builder of an EAB airplane you don't need to take this course to get your
Repairman's Certificate, just apply for it through your DAR when getting
your airworthiness inspection - he must sign off that you are "knowledgable"
enough to do your own inspections. If you are not the builder of an EAB, or
the owner of an ELSA, you cannot get a Repairman's Certificate (unless of
course you are a full A&P, but then you don't need one!)
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WurlyBird
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Repairman Certificate
<james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Can anyone tell me where to look or who to call to find the nearest
repairman class?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277685#277685
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| Subject: | Re: 912 prop choice |
for the 912 I would go 3 blade medium.
I am happy with my IVO IFA on floats with the 582 using a 72" 3 blade ultralight,
but want to try a medium just for grins n giggles.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
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Hey Dick,
I've got a Kiev 183 and spinner for my HKS but it hasn't flown yet. As
you say, they are beautifully made.
I got this prop because it met the inertia requirements of the gearbox
and it has good performance in a Skyranger with the same engine/gearbox.
Also:
http://www.hks-power.co.jp/hks_aviation/Pilots/2009/09217/index.htm
Add speed in cruise? Not sure about that. The Highlander and Skyranger
aren't as fast as a Kitfox. The prop is very light so maybe you can
slow down the idle.
If you really want speed brakes: doesn't a slipper clutch disengage when
the engine gets below some rpm? If so, wouldn't the prop free-wheel to
some rpm based on the airspeed? If true that will create tremendous
drag. That is what happens in a Rotax C gearbox with a clutch
installed. That's why I never wanted one. What would happen to the
engine-out glide ratio?
BTW, what is the lead time now on Kiev props and blades?
Cheers,
Mark Napier
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Dick Maddux
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Kiev prop
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Has anyone got an opinion on the Kiev prop on a 912UL in a Kitfox 4 ? I
have seen several Highlanders that use this prop and they all seem happy
with them. It is a beautifully made piece of art, that's for sure. I
talked to the importer yesterday and he said I would gain a few mph in
cruise and be able to slow the idle rpm down to around 1400 rpm on
approach thus reducing my ground roll (kind of acts like a speed brake)
The later would certainly be useful as I have had some problems getting
the rpm low enough on approach with my Warp.
I am just tossing this around in my head and would appreciate any
opinions.
? ? ? ? ? Dick Maddux
? ? ? ? ? Fox 4-1200
? ? ? ? ? 912UL
? ? ? ? ? Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Oil Injection reservoir size? |
What size oil injection reservoir are you two stroke people running? I am still
gathering to convert my premix engine.
The rotax installation manual says the oil reservoir should be a minimum of 5%
of the fuel capacity. I have 21 gallon fuel capacity so that works out to a little
over a gallon oil reservoir. That seems like a lot of extra weight if I
filled it up.
The tank I am looking at is 2.5 liters which would be enough oil for about 35 gallons
of fuel.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
On Wed, December 16, 2009 4:12 pm, Tom Jones wrote:
>
> What size oil injection reservoir are you two stroke people running? I am still
> gathering to convert my premix engine.
I assume you mean you're converting from using pre-mix to oil injection.
> The rotax installation manual says the oil reservoir should be a minimum of 5%
of the
> fuel capacity.
That seems a little high to me when the engine runs 50:1 (2% oil) and close to
100:1
at low power settings. Maybe they mean 2% of the fuel capacity plus an additional
5%.
So 2% of 21 gallons is 0.42 gallons plus 5% of the 0.42 gallons which is another
0.021
gallons. The total oil then would be 0.42 + 0.021 = 0.441 gallons of oil. A little
under half a gallon. It doesn't seem reasonable to me to size the oil tank for
a 20:1
mix. But then again, I haven't been flying behind one either.
> I have 21 gallon fuel capacity so that works out to a little over a
> gallon oil reservoir. That seems like a lot of extra weight if I filled it up.
>
> The tank I am looking at is 2.5 liters which would be enough oil for about 35
gallons
> of fuel.
That's well over the minimum required for 21 gallons of fuel assuming it runs 50:1
most of the time. The oil weighs approx 6.8 lbs/gal so half gallon isn't an extreme
weight burden. You'd be carrying that weight anyway if you premixed. It might be
nice
to size the oil tank for a typical round trip so you don't have to carry as much
in
bottles loose in the cockpit. Maybe size the oil tank for some amount of flight
time,
like 6 or 8 hours.
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
425.440.9505 Office
"He who does not bellow out the truth when he knows the truth makes
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-- French poet, essayist and editor Charles Peguy (1873-1914)
Subject: As the World Turns
So what have we learned in two millennia?
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be
tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be
curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work,
instead of living on public assistance. --- Cicero, 55 BC
Evidently, nothing....
"An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to
destroy; because there is a limit beyond which no institution and
no property can bear taxation."
-- John Marshall, McCullough v. Maryland, 1819
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible
from
one party of the citizens to give to the other.
-- Voltaire (1764)
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<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers>
All of them presented in the Library of Congress
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Searchable e-text of the Federalist and other documents too.
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV for sale on eBay |
Dick,
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If my own experience is any indication, neither certification nor obtaining
a repairman's certificate should be a problem. I purchased my model 2 in m
uch the same-state of completion-as this 4 and the FAA was quite happy
to provide me with both. I will concede that the outcome may depend largely
on the documentation that comes with the plane and the individual who does
the inspection, however.
-
If I could afford a wife and 2 airplanes, I'd jump on this one.
-
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, catz631@aol.com <catz631@aol.com> wrote:
From: catz631@aol.com <catz631@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF IV for sale on eBay
Deke,
-You are right about the controversy but this purchase should be no big d
eal. This is just an experimental amatuar built airplane. If your aim is to
get the airplane then you should have no trouble in getting the airworthin
ess certificate. As mentioned ,projects often go thru many owners before co
mpleted and licensed. Annual condition checks would be signed off by an A&P
(as mine is every year)
-If, however, your aim is to get the repairmans certificate that might be
another story depending on how much completion you did and what qualifies.
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------- Dick Maddux
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--------Fox 4
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--------Milton,Fl -
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| Subject: | Re: 912 prop choice |
I would go with an IVO UL. Half the weight and less then half the cost. W
orked great for me for almost 1500 hours.
Clint
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 912 prop choice
> From: akflyer_2000@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed=2C 16 Dec 2009 14:28:07 -0800
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> for the 912 I would go 3 blade medium.
>
> I am happy with my IVO IFA on floats with the 582 using a 72" 3 blade ult
ralight=2C but want to try a medium just for grins n giggles.
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "=3BC"=3B / Mk IV
> 582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
> IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1450
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
> I would rather die trying to live=2C than to live trying not to die....
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277783#277783
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