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1. 04:57 AM - Re: Kiev prop (catz631@aol.com)
2. 05:20 AM - Re: 912 prop choice (Ken Potter)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (akflyer)
4. 07:57 AM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Tom Jones)
5. 10:21 AM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Guy Buchanan)
6. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Patrick Reilly)
7. 11:34 AM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (akflyer)
8. 11:39 AM - Re: KF IV for sale on eBay (Patrick Reilly)
9. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Patrick Reilly)
10. 01:02 PM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (dave)
11. 02:27 PM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (akflyer)
12. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Patrick Reilly)
13. 06:07 PM - Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? (Tom Jones)
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Mark,
I should have restated my question a little better. The real reason I am
considering the Kiev is, I guess, is that it is beautiful. It looks like a
prop should look sleek,smooth,polished,semi scimitar The first time I saw one
I said "wooohh,I like this....alot!
If course looks aren't everything but usually if it looks good it should
fly good. Anyway my first three landings in my Kitfox after I bought the
airplane were deadstick. The former owner had the idle set too low. I assure you
the prop stops RIGHT NOW and won't freewheel. It's too light with little to
no inertia.
I now have the flight idle set about right .(1600-1800) It took a lot of
fiddling to get it there and I really wouldn't bring it back to 1400 as that
is too low.
I don't know how backed up Kiev is on delivery as I am still in the
thought stage. As stated earlier, my Warp is fine but that Kiev sure makes me
salivate!
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
912UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: 912 prop choice |
I have a new two blade 68" GSC IFA with zero hours for sale. It is for a Rotax
912. $ 1500.
Cheers
Ken
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
C-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
I got the KF oil tank from John Mcb at kitfox. It is a pain to take off my boot
cowl every time I fill up so I like having the extra oil capacity. A few extra
pounds are worth the hassle to me.
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
akflyer wrote:
> I got the KF oil tank from John Mcb at kitfox. It is a pain to take off my boot
cowl every time I fill up so I like having the extra oil capacity. A few
extra pounds are worth the hassle to me.
Tell me more about the KF oil tank. Size, where does it mount, mounting bracket?
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
At 04:12 PM 12/16/2009, you wrote:
>What size oil injection reservoir are you two stroke people
>running? I am still gathering to convert my premix engine.
I've been running two liters for the past few years. As Paul says, it
just means you carry more in the baggage compartment when you want to
go long. I've run as long as 4 1/2 hours between re-fills with no
problem. Supposedly I could go longer, but I don't, so I don't really
need more capacity.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade
100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
Tom, My tank mounts on the top of the firewall behind the 582 Rotax engine.
My plane was built with a 912 engine and a door on the top of the cowling.
The door is directly over the oil reservoir filler cap. I don't have to
remove the cowling to check or add oil. Worked out great. I did mount the
tank a 1/2" too high and had to lower it to clear the door hinge.
Pat Reilly
mod 3582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote:
>
>
> akflyer wrote:
> > I got the KF oil tank from John Mcb at kitfox. It is a pain to take off
> my boot cowl every time I fill up so I like having the extra oil capacity.
> A few extra pounds are worth the hassle to me.
>
>
> Tell me more about the KF oil tank. Size, where does it mount, mounting
> bracket?
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277909#277909
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
Mine is on the back side of the firewall, mounts with Adel clamps. I will get
some pics of it when I get home next week. Some cowlings have an oil door in
the them, but mine doesnt. I keep it outside and dont need another water leak
in the cabin. I like being able to run long trips and not have to refill the
oil. Last one I brought 6 extra Qts with me and did not use one of them till
I got back home. I burned 70 gallons of fuel and used less than half the oil.
I think the tank was 90 bucks or something like that from KF.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV for sale on eBay |
Marco, The FAA issued my new KF registration with the original builders name
as the builder. So, my airworthy cert shows him as the builder, even after
I did a complete rebuild, hence the repairman's cert. request was denied. I
would say that you can not depend on any logical rules interprutation by the
FAA. Maybe the fact that I wanted the old N # assigned had some bearing.
But, as far as I can tell the FAA, like organization rulings especially
governmental, can dwell on one word of the rules out of context and arrive
at a totally illogical conclusion. They ignored the 51% rule in my
case. Just don't count on continuity of logic in FAA decisions.
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dick,
>
> If my own experience is any indication, neither certification nor obtaining
> a repairman's certificate should be a problem. I purchased my model 2 in
> much the same state of completion as this 4 and the FAA was quite happy to
> provide me with both. I will concede that the outcome may depend largely on
> the documentation that comes with the plane and the individual who does the
> inspection, however.
>
> If I could afford a wife and 2 airplanes, I'd jump on this one.
>
> Marco Menezes N99KX
> Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/15/09, catz631@aol.com <catz631@aol.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: catz631@aol.com <catz631@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF IV for sale on eBay
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:10 AM
>
> Deke,
> You are right about the controversy but this purchase should be no big
> deal. This is just an experimental amatuar built airplane. If your aim is to
> get the airplane then you should have no trouble in getting the
> airworthiness certificate. As mentioned ,projects often go thru many owners
> before completed and licensed. Annual condition checks would be signed off
> by an A&P (as mine is every year)
> If, however, your aim is to get the repairmans certificate that might be
> another story depending on how much completion you did and what qualifies.
> Dick Maddux
> Fox 4
> Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
Lennie, My tank is on the front of the firewall so any leaks would not enter
the cabin. I mounted mine where a felow out in Maine that sold me the tank
had his. He sent me pictures.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:31 PM, akflyer <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Mine is on the back side of the firewall, mounts with Adel clamps. I will
> get some pics of it when I get home next week. Some cowlings have an oil
> door in the them, but mine doesnt. I keep it outside and dont need another
> water leak in the cabin. I like being able to run long trips and not have
> to refill the oil. Last one I brought 6 extra Qts with me and did not use
> one of them till I got back home. I burned 70 gallons of fuel and used less
> than half the oil.
>
> I think the tank was 90 bucks or something like that from KF.
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
> IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1450
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
> I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277960#277960
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
Guys, a properly adjusted 582 oil injection will only give 50 to 1 ratio at wide
open throttle
In cruise you might see 65 to 1 to 70 to 1 area.
At idle closer to 90 to 1 or 100 to 1 .
The oil injection ratio is dependant on throttle position.
Pictures of injection bottom mounting on Kitfox.
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=156
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
dave wrote:
> Guys, a properly adjusted 582 oil injection will only give 50 to 1 ratio at
wide open throttle NOT all the time.
> In cruise you might see 65 to 1 to 70 to 1 area.
> At idle closer to 90 to 1 or 100 to 1 .
>
> The oil injection ratio is dependant on throttle position.
>
> Pictures of injection bottom mounting on Kitfox.
>
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=156
news flash on the bold huh :snack:
thought we kicked the crud outa this one last week.
:-)
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
Kitfoxers, I have the oil reserve bottle pictured. If someone needs it, you
can have it for $10 + shipping.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, akflyer <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> dave wrote:
> > Guys, a properly adjusted 582 oil injection will only give 50 to 1 ratio
> at wide open throttle NOT all the time.
> > In cruise you might see 65 to 1 to 70 to 1 area.
> > At idle closer to 90 to 1 or 100 to 1 .
> >
> > The oil injection ratio is dependant on throttle position.
> >
> > Pictures of injection bottom mounting on Kitfox.
> >
> > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=156
>
>
> news flash on the bold huh :snack:
>
> thought we kicked the crud outa this one last week.
> :-)
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 (87 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
> IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1450
> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>
> I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277987#277987
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection reservoir size? |
akflyer wrote:
> Mine is on the back side of the firewall, mounts with Adel clamps. I will get
some pics of it when I get home next week. Some cowlings have an oil door in
the them, but mine doesnt. I keep it outside and dont need another water leak
in the cabin. I like being able to run long trips and not have to refill the
oil. Last one I brought 6 extra Qts with me and did not use one of them till
I got back home. I burned 70 gallons of fuel and used less than half the oil.
>
> I think the tank was 90 bucks or something like that from KF.
Thanks, I would like to see this setup. I have a panel tank so probably not enough
room behind the fire wall, but plenty in front. I plan to fabricate an oil
door for checking and adding oil.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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