Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/02/10


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:12 AM - Climates (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 08:30 AM - Re: Climates (Dave G)
     3. 08:43 AM - Re: Climates (Dave G)
     4. 09:45 AM - Re: Climates (Tom Jones)
     5. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Climates (Dave G)
     6. 01:11 PM - Re: Climates (Ken Potter)
     7. 10:30 PM - water temp guage (CLEMWEHNER)
     8. 11:00 PM - Re: water temp guage (Lowell Fitt)
     9. 11:15 PM - Re: water temp guage (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:12:41 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Climates
    Dave, One thing about the Internet is that you can't see the other persons facial expressions,etc. It is sometimes a bear to really communicate what you are trying to get across. With that in mind I generally agree with you, Florida sucks! (for the reasons you stated) It is ONLY this time of year that I can tolerate it. I am totally misplaced down here. I love mountains.(grew up in COLORADO) We have a beautiful beach here on the Gulf coast. It looks like sugar (they filmed the beach scenes of Jaws Two here) But for 5 months of the year it is unbearably hot,muggy,buggy,yeccchhhh!!!! And then there are hurricanes (wiped out my first hanger) This is the ONLY time of year that I fade from my normal envious blue color of where most of you guys live. I bought a cabin in the Smokeys so I would have a place to escape in the summer. But,alas,it's a 5 year wait to get a hanger for my airplane and there is very little flat space in the area. So, as the man says, it is what it is. Happy New Year! Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl


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    Time: 08:30:39 AM PST US
    From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Climates
    I knew you were just having fun. I know a number of those winter immigrants to Florida as many come from Canada. I am not awfully heat tolerant so there's little appeal for me, but I understand it's quite popular. Winter here in the Maritimes is fairly short and mild, it's snowing a little today and looks like it might stay but it's above zero. Spring should start to show up in about 10 weeks. I----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Climates Dave, One thing about the Internet is that you can't see the other persons facial expressions,etc. It is sometimes a bear to really communicate what you are trying to get across. With that in mind I generally agree with you, Florida sucks! (for the reasons you stated) It is ONLY this time of year that I can tolerate it. I am totally misplaced down here. I love mountains.(grew up in COLORADO) We have a beautiful beach here on the Gulf coast. It looks like sugar (they filmed the beach scenes of Jaws Two here) But for 5 months of the year it is unbearably hot,muggy,buggy,yeccchhhh!!!! And then there are hurricanes (wiped out my first hanger) This is the ONLY time of year that I fade from my normal envious blue color of where most of you guys live. I bought a cabin in the Smokeys so I would have a place to escape in the summer. But,alas,it's a 5 year wait to get a hanger for my airplane and there is very little flat space in the area. So, as the man says, it is what it is. Happy New Year! Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl


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    Time: 08:43:28 AM PST US
    From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Climates
    Sorry, should have translated for those who thought I should be cold, it's above zero which is 32, so say it's 35 on your temp scale here.


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    Time: 09:45:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Climates
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Occom, is this you? do not archive. http://www.break.com/index/insane-canadian-fisherman.html -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279765#279765


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    Time: 10:21:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Climates
    Now that's funny. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- > > Occom, is this you? do not archive. >


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    Time: 01:11:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Climates
    From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
    As a Canuck from Ontario... thats just to funny!! Cheers Ken -------- Ken Potter Model II, No. 483 Rotax 582, C-Box, 98% Complete C-FJKP (marks reserved) Lanark, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279795#279795


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    Time: 10:30:01 PM PST US
    From: "CLEMWEHNER" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: water temp guage
    We're getting near done on a KFIV-912. But, when I planned the panel a few years ago, I included a Westach quad gauge with CHT, and also made a hole for a separate water temp guage. Now that I think about it, why would I need both? Doesn't CHT equal water temp in an engine with water cooled heads? Am I missing something? thanks for the help, Clem Lawton OK KFIV-912 getting near done.


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    Time: 11:00:52 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: water temp guage
    Clem, I was looking at the cad drawings for my first Kitfox to see how I wanted to set up the panel for the new one, and I too had the temp gauge slotted in there. I also used the Quad gauge and as you are suggesting, filled the hole with something else - had an extra turn and bank. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "CLEMWEHNER" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: water temp guage We're getting near done on a KFIV-912. But, when I planned the panel a few years ago, I included a Westach quad gauge with CHT, and also made a hole for a separate water temp guage. Now that I think about it, why would I need both? Doesn't CHT equal water temp in an engine with water cooled heads? Am I missing something? thanks for the help, Clem Lawton OK KFIV-912 getting near done.


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    Time: 11:15:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: water temp guage
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Sat, January 2, 2010 10:26 pm, CLEMWEHNER wrote: > We're getting near done on a KFIV-912. > > But, when I planned the panel a few years ago, I included a Westach quad gauge with > CHT, and also made a hole for a separate water temp guage. Good design choice. You won't regret that decision. > Now that I think about it, > why would I need both? Doesn't CHT equal water temp in an engine with water cooled > heads? In a word - no. I definitely would have both CHT and water temp gauges. If it were mine I would use water temp gauge also. > Am I missing something? The quad CHT is important if you want to run lean of peak because you know the temperatures in each cylinder head. However, without fuel injection you still might not elect to run lean of peak. But if the cylinders run close in temp, you definitely can get significant fuel savings running lean of peak in cruise. The water temperature gauge is an essential instrument too. It will let you know if you're exceeding that T-stat controlled temp or that your operating temperature is too low. The cyl head temp reading will be much higher than the water temperature since the sensor is generally placed against the head under a spark plug. CHT is also effected by power setting whereas T-stat controlled water temperature should remain constant at all power settings. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell 425.440.9505 Office "Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom. ... If we suffer [the minds of young people] to grovel and creep in infancy, they will grovel all their lives. ... The foundation of national morality must be laid in private families... How is it possible that Children can have any just Sense of the sacred Obligations of Morality or Religion if, from their earliest Infancy, they learn their Mothers live in habitual Infidelity to their fathers, and their fathers in as constant Infidelity to their Mothers? ... We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ... The only foundation of a free Constitution, is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People ... they may change their Rulers, and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting Liberty. ... A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever." -- John Adams "An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to destroy; because there is a limit beyond which no institution and no property can bear taxation." -- John Marshall, McCullough v. Maryland, 1819 "Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,' and the people -- we the people -- are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country." -- Rep. Michele Bachman (R-MN) "[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." -- James Madison In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -- Voltaire (1764)




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