---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/06/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Re: Re: Wingtanks (ctmcdowell@comcast.net) 2. 06:00 AM - Re: Wingtanks (dave) 3. 06:50 AM - Re: Hand Held Radio (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) 4. 07:46 AM - Re: Wingtanks (Av8r3400) 5. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: Wingtanks (paul wilson) 6. 10:18 AM - Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? (FlyboyTR) 7. 04:09 PM - Re: Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? (Roger Lee) 8. 05:23 PM - Re: Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? (Av8r3400) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:37 AM PST US From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtanks Fiberglas tanks and Ethanol .=C2- I first saw what Ethanol does to f iber glas tanks a few years ago. Sport fishing boat with glass tanks built in 70 's. The Ethanol dissolved the resin from the inside of the tank and sent it up into the fuel filter and into the engine. It looked like thick dark syr up.=C2- Cost a few thousand dollars to fix. I believe the date for Ethano l compatible fiberglass is 1988. Someone correct me if this date is wrong. =C2- I used a product to line the inside of gas tanks years ago to stop r ust and permanently plug pinholes. Worked great with no adverse affects. An y interested?-Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: " dave " < dave @ cfisher .com> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:00:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Kitfox -List: Re: Wingtanks --> Kitfox -List message posted by: " dave " < dave @ cfisher .com> John, My tank are early 1990s vintage and I have over 850 hours in last 3 y ears alone wince ethanol gas was mandated here in Canada. No leaks or probl ems =C2-yet. =C2-Mine do not have any sloshing inside. Have you seen any tanks actually leak or fall apart due to ethanol? I hear of them but Have not seen any yet. Second question...... =C2-Droop tips vs hoerner style tips -what gain or losses can be had ? and on model IV wing and early under camb er wings. -what is the pricing on your hoerner tips ? Thanks , Dave -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http :// www . cfisher .com/ Awesome *New Forum * http :// rotaxaircraft .com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate =C2-the internet =C2-chatter from th e truth =C2- http :// www . youtube .com/ profile_videos ?user= kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http ://forums. matronics .com/ viewtopic . php ?p=280310#280310 =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle , List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:39 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtanks From: "dave" Lion8 wrote: > Fiberglas tanks and Ethanol. I first saw what Ethanol does to fiberglas tanks a few years ago. Sport fishing boat with glass tanks built in 70's. The Ethanol dissolved the resin from the inside of the tank and sent it up into the fuel filter and into the engine. It looked like thick dark syrup. Cost a few thousand dollars to fix. I believe the date for Ethanol compatible fiberglass is 1988. Someone correct me if this date is wrong. I used a product to line the inside of gas tanks years ago to stop rust and permanently plug pinholes. Worked great with no adverse affects. Any interested?-Tom > > --- I think that the vinyl ester resin is the key as early tanks were poly ester resin. Ours I think are made from vinyl ester resin. The point is all the hype about ethanol eating Kitfox tanks has really not proven to happening. 1970 boats sure but not relevant. No need to slosh Kreem if there really is not a problem. A poorly sloshed tank can cause more probelms than without.l -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280345#280345 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:44 AM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hand Held Radio I've had one of these for 2 or 3 years. Seems to work just fine for me. I t was also about the best price for any handheld I found. Jim Chuk Avids =2C Kitfox 4 Mn > Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand Held Radio > From: dorsal61@yahoo.com > Date: Tue=2C 5 Jan 2010 07:27:30 -0800 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Thinking of picking up a hand-held for back-up and com testing. I like th e Vertex VXA-220 for it's size=2C anybody have experience with this unit? > > -------- > Dorsal > Series 7 Trike (building) > 912S Warp Drive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280224#280224 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:02 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtanks From: "Av8r3400" Okay, here is the $64k question: Is there a way, to visually (or otherwise) test weather your tanks are Polyester or vinylester resin? [Question] -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280357#280357 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:38 AM PST US From: paul wilson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtanks Ask John. Its all about the build date. Internal coatings with any glass tanks could be still required to seal the pin holes. Test your tanks for pinholes before installation. PW ========== At 07:43 AM 1/6/2010, you wrote: > >Okay, here is the $64k question: > >Is there a way, to visually (or otherwise) test weather your tanks >are Polyester or vinylester resin? > >[Question] > >-------- >Thanks, >Av8r3400 > >Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO >Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280357#280357 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:41 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? From: "FlyboyTR" I have removed my flaperons for corrosion removal and painting. I am concerned about possible corrosion inside. After stripping, priming and painting I noted one of the end caps was slightly loose. I removed it so I could epoxy it back into position. Then I realized there is no type of corrosion protection inside the flaperons. :( My flaperons have always held water from rain and washing and I am careful to keep it as dry as possible. I am planning to drill a few more holes for better draining. Here is my main concern What can I use to pour into the various sections of the flaperons to coat the aluminum inside? I have considered Linseed Oil. However, Im really not sure what is best. Linseed Oil wont hurt my new paint, it is easily available and Im sure would create a dripping mess for a while (I can live with thatfor a while)! Suggestions? Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280385#280385 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:37 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? From: "Roger Lee" "Corrosion -X or T-9" T-9 was made for Boeing for corrosion. When I manufactured Dive compressors we used either one. Both work very well even against salt water. T-9 will leave a longer lasting film to help block out all moisture. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280445#280445 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:35 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Corrosion Protection for Flaperons? From: "Av8r3400" Take care that what ever product you use does not break down the foam ribs in the flaperon. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280451#280451 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.