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1. 04:17 AM - New Floats soon availabe (dave)
2. 04:36 AM - Re: Milk more power from the 532? (dave)
3. 05:06 AM - Re: Ram Air (bob noffs)
4. 05:24 AM - Re: heater fan (bob noffs)
5. 08:08 AM - Re: heater fan (catz631@aol.com)
6. 08:26 AM - Cold weather flying (PMorel)
7. 12:15 PM - Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Noel Loveys)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Patrick Reilly)
9. 01:43 PM - Re: Milk more power from the 532? (dave)
10. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Patrick Reilly)
11. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Noel Loveys)
12. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Larry Huntley)
13. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Milk more power from the 532? (Noel Loveys)
14. 07:37 PM - New pilot certificates! Time is running out! (Randy Daughenbaugh)
15. 10:56 PM - Re: New pilot certificates! Time is running out! (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
16. 11:46 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 01/10/10 (Ed Gray)
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| Subject: | New Floats soon availabe |
There have been many floats put on Kitfox Aircraft over the years.
All have their pros and cons,
Finally one that will likely exceed all of them for durability, strength and looks.
http://www.clamarfloats.com/1400.htm
They will be around 20k $ but you will get what you pay for when it comes to floats.
These are top notch and ask any Cub driver about them as they have a great
track record.
I was after Claire for several years to develop a 1400 size float and finally
it is here.
With Kitfox going to 400lb empty plane to very heavy 900 + pound empty plane you
will need more float. This might be the ticket.
They are located 7 miles from my strip . If anyone wants a sneak preview, just
let me know and I will take you over there. We can fly in or drive in.
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if anything.
your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
532 work ok stock.
You want more power get a 912
or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best cruise
machine.......
do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over 2000 fpm.
you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
!!
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http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
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bob, the only problem you will have is a slightly richer mixture as warm air
is going into the carb. slightly less power too [probably not noticeable
bob noffs
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Robert Rivard <bw12345@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> I have a Kit Fox 4 Classic with a 2200 Jabiru engine.Is there a problem
> mounting the air filter on the firewall using scat hose to connect to carb?
> The carb vacuum line would be attached to the filter. I do not have enough
> room to mount the Jabiru factory filter box for ram air.
>
> BOB
>
> *
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> *
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the usual way to ''force feed'' is with a naca vent mounted in the cowl or
with a round hole in the cowl in front. lycs. and cont. often would have
that rould hole in the plenum baffling right inside the air intake hole.
bob noffs
with a ''force feed'' thru a heat muff my piper warrior would get as warm
as you wanted it at 15 deg f.
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
>
> At 08:12 AM 1/10/2010, you wrote:
>
>> It was warm enough but not enough flow. Any ideas for a replacement fan
>> that has a reasonably low amp draw?
>>
>
> Any way you can force feed it some outside air? Or do you want to stick
> with a recirc system?
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
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Well, I knew you guys were going to bust my b--ls about me wining about 25
degree temp (now it is 17) but remember this is Florida (as summer will
testify) My plane is not set up for this "cold" weather. And besides I was the
only one flying in my area everyone else was inside (might have also been due
to the 25-30 kt wind gusts)
Anyway, I had my water/oil cooler taped up like a mummy, so they were
warm. I really don't want to do a whole lot of modifying to my aircraft as this
cold weather is a relatively rare thing so am going to find a muffin fan
with more output.
Thanks for the muffler heater idea,Leonard. That sounds like the Rans S7
heater that Spruce sells. If we get alot more of this"global warming" weather
down here and I can't get the heater up to par, I will look into the muff
idea.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Cold weather flying |
Dick=0A=0AI live in Georgia and I too fly my Kitfox every chance I get.-
The temperature as you know have been running in the 20s and 30s the last c
ouple of weeks.=0AI have a Speedster with a 912.- During the winter, I du
ct tap the front side of the oil cooler completely and run duct tape on the
coolant radiator.- My oil temperature=0Amaintains around 200F and coolan
t around 180F during the winter.- I keep an inside/outside thermometer in
the cabin and with the single fan running, I'm able to keep the cabin=0Ate
mperature about 15 degrees warmer than outside temperature.---I have
the average cabin air leakage but no cold blowing air coming in.- I proba
bly could do better sealing=0Athe air.- Leather jacket, gloves, hat and h
eadset seem to keep me warm enough.- =0A=0ASince you're in Florida, I wou
ld recommend flying without sandals during the winter!=0A=0APaul Morel=0A91
2 Speedster=0ALocust Grove, GA
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| Subject: | Milk more power from the 532? |
I don't think larger carbs would do the trick. maybe nitrous or
supercharging but I wouldn't want to do either on a two stroke engine.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of larry copas
Sent: January 10, 2010 7:53 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Milk more power from the 532?
What's the BIGGEST carb for the 532? I read about tuned exhaust but such a
narrow power band - (usually, where you don't need it) OR, melting pistons
or disturbing the neighbors... How about larger carbs? .. Which, Where?
How much? Tnx, Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
Dave, Are there any of those 630 Rotaxes available? I have never seen one
for sale. You state "It won't be the best cruise machine". Why? Is it
strictly gas burn rate or something else? What does a 630 weigh in
comparison to a 582?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM, dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
>
> 532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if anything.
>
> your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
>
> 532 work ok stock.
>
> You want more power get a 912
>
> or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best
> cruise machine.......
> do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over 2000
> fpm. you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough
> WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW !!
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> http://www.cfisher.com/
> Awesome *New Forum *
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
Pat, First off it is a 670 Rotax not a 630.
Weight about the same give or take 5 lbs.
670 have RAVE vavles which open up the exh. port but not till over 6000 rpm .........
you max HP will start to happen 6500 to 8500 rpm. with a decent pipe.
You have to mod the crankcase and cut the PTO of crank a bit shorters and make
a smaller morse taper in to to fit the Rotax gear box.
Fuel burn at wide open throttle will go from 7 gal a hour to 11 to 15 gal hour.
HP come s at a price .
quote="Pat Reilly"]Dave, Are there any of those 630 Rotaxes available? I have never
seen one for sale.You state "It won't be the best cruise machine". Why? Is
it strictly gas burn rate or something else? What does a 630 weigh in comparison
to a 582?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM, dave wrote:
>
> 532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if anything.
>
> your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
>
> 532 work ok stock.
>
> You want more power get a 912
>
> or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best cruise
machine.......
> do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over 2000 fpm. you
might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
!!
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> http://www.cfisher.com/ (http://www.cfisher.com/)
> Awesome *New Forum *
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ (http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/)
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer)
>
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996 (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996)
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
Dave, Thanks for quick reply. I realized after I sent the message it was a
670. Sounds like there are other issues with, retro fitting the
crankcase, PTO, HP and torque not available until higher RPM, narrow power
band, that make the engine less than desireable for our application.
Pat Reilly
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:40 PM, dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
>
> Pat, First off it is a 670 Rotax not a 630.
> Weight about the same give or take 5 lbs.
> 670 have RAVE vavles which open up the exh. port but not till over 6000 r
pm
> ......... you max HP will start to happen 6500 to 8500 rpm. with a dec
ent
> pipe. You have to mod the crankcase and cut the PTO of crank a bit short
ers
> and make a smaller morse taper in to to fit the Rotax gear box.
>
> Fuel burn at wide open throttle will go from 7 gal a hour to 11 to 15 ga
l
> hour. HP come s at a price .
>
> quote="Pat Reilly"]Dave, Are there any of those 630 Rotaxes available?
I
> have never seen one for sale.=EF=BDYou state "It won't be the best cru
ise
> machine". Why? Is it strictly gas burn rate or something else? What does
a
> 630 weigh in comparison to a 582?
> =EF=BD
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford,IL
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM, dave wrote:
>
> >
> > 532 -- =EF=BD don't =EF=BDbother a larger carb as gains will be m
inimal if
> anything.
> >
> > your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
> >
> > 532 work ok stock.
> >
> > You want more power get a 912
> >
> > or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the bes
t
> cruise machine.......
> > do a rotax 670 =EF=BD-- =EF=BDyou will get 110 to 130 HP =EF
=BDand climb well over 2000
> =EF=BDfpm. you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enou
gh =EF=BD
> WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW =EF=BD !!
> >
> > --------
> > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> > http://www.cfisher.com/ (http://www.cfisher.com/)
> > Awesome *New Forum *
> > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ (http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/)
> > Realtime Kitfox movies to separate =EF=BDthe internet =EF=BDchatt
er from the truth
> > http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer (
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer)
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996)
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> http://www.cfisher.com/
> Awesome *New Forum *
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
Will a C or E box handle that kind of power?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: January 11, 2010 9:04 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Milk more power from the 532?
532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if anything.
your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
532 work ok stock.
You want more power get a 912
or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best
cruise machine.......
do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over 2000
fpm. you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough
WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW !!
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
How about a Swiss muffler? Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:33 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Milk more power from the 532?
>
> 532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if anything.
>
> your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
>
> 532 work ok stock.
>
> You want more power get a 912
>
> or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best
> cruise machine.......
> do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over 2000
> fpm. you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough
> WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW !!
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> http://www.cfisher.com/
> Awesome *New Forum *
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996
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| Subject: | Re: Milk more power from the 532? |
Will a Rotax box take that kind of horsepower?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: January 11, 2010 6:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Milk more power from the 532?
Pat, First off it is a 670 Rotax not a 630.
Weight about the same give or take 5 lbs.
670 have RAVE vavles which open up the exh. port but not till over 6000 rpm
.......... you max HP will start to happen 6500 to 8500 rpm. with a decent
pipe. You have to mod the crankcase and cut the PTO of crank a bit shorters
and make a smaller morse taper in to to fit the Rotax gear box.
Fuel burn at wide open throttle will go from 7 gal a hour to 11 to 15 gal
hour. HP come s at a price .
quote="Pat Reilly"]Dave, Are there any of those 630 Rotaxes available? I
have never seen one for sale.You state "It won't be the best cruise
machine". Why? Is it strictly gas burn rate or something else? What does a
630 weigh in comparison to a 582?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM, dave wrote:
>
> 532 -- don't bother a larger carb as gains will be minimal if
anything.
>
> your muffler is limiting your power more so than the carb.
>
> 532 work ok stock.
>
> You want more power get a 912
>
> or if you want to experiment and get gobs of power but won't be the best
cruise machine.......
> do a rotax 670 -- you will get 110 to 130 HP and climb well over
2000 fpm. you might see close to 3000 fpm if your plane is light enough
WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW !!
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> http://www.cfisher.com/ (http://www.cfisher.com/)
> Awesome *New Forum *
> http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ (http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/)
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the
truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
(http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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(http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280996#280996)
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target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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> Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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>
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> [b]
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Awesome *New Forum *
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| Subject: | New pilot certificates! Time is running out! |
Don't forget to get your new pilot certificate before the end of March!
Your paper certificate will expire and as I understand it, if you want to
fly after that, you will have to take all the tests over for each rating you
have.
Scary!
See:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/expiring_paper_certificates/
Randy
Randy and Mary Daughenbaugh
10755 Sheridan Lake Road
Rapid City, SD 57702
605.737-1227
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| Subject: | Re: New pilot certificates! Time is running out! |
On Mon, January 11, 2010 7:31 pm, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> Don't forget to get your new pilot certificate before the end of March!
Thanks for the reminder, Randy.
> Your paper certificate will expire and as I understand it, if you want to
> fly after that, you will have to take all the tests over for each rating you
> have.
My interpretation is that the "Paper Certificate" expires and that doesn't mean
your
ratings expire. In order to exercise your certification privileges you must be
in
possession of a valid certificate. I didn't find anything saying one would lose
your
ratings if you didn't get the new certificate by March 31.
> http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/expiring_paper_certificates/
If you follow their instructions for reissuing your certificate without you SSI
number, it is free. Otherwise they charge you $2 for a replacement. They immediately
e-mailed my verification and said I would receive the new certificate within two
weeks.
What I found interesting is that they do not require having a current medical to
issue
the replacement certificate.
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
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oil, although most of the laboratory rats developed cancer.
-- Dave Barry, "Postpetroleum Guzzler"
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contrary to popular opinion, fireplaces actually remove heat from houses.
Really, that's what scientists believe. In fact many scientists actually
use their fireplaces to cool their houses in the summer. If you visit a
scientist's house on a sultry August day, you'll find a cheerful fire
roaring on the hearth and the scientist sitting nearby, remarking on how
cool he is and drinking heavily.
-- Dave Barry, "Postpetroleum Guzzler"
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| Subject: | RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 01/10/10 |
Lynn, I really think you need a TKS system on that Fox. Maybe not, since it
will carry "a ton of ice". One obvious mod you haven't thought of, take the
vibrator motor from the Scholls back pad, install it in your shorts and you
will discover a new dimension in flying pleasure!
Ed Gray KII 582 b box now grounded while adding a mod seven vertical tail &
rudder.
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1. 01:04 AM - Re: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing (michael
paton)
2. 08:52 AM - heater fan (catz631@aol.com)
3. 09:44 AM - Re: heater fan (Aluminum Flyer)
4. 11:13 AM - Re: heater fan (Lynn Matteson)
5. 11:20 AM - Re: heater fan (Pete Christensen)
6. 11:37 AM - Re: heater fan (akflyer)
7. 01:48 PM - Ram Air (Robert Rivard)
8. 03:16 PM - Mod ll, major parts Needed (larry copas)
9. 03:39 PM - Milk more power from the 532? (larry copas)
10. 07:52 PM - Re: heater fan (Guy Buchanan)
11. 09:10 PM - Fw: New Kitfox Video- your Kitfox is in it Guy. (Guy
Buchanan)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 01:04:06 AM PST US
From: michael paton <mlpaton2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing
life is like flying, it is all about balance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
________________________________
From: akflyer <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 5:36:15 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing
when I get on a project i dont stop for anything... 5:00 am in the shop,
quit
when your done.. Things progress quickly like that.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (100 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280770#280770
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 08:52:49 AM PST US
From: catz631@aol.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: heater fan
I was out flying yesterday and the OAT was 25 degrees. That's pretty cold
for Fl so I rapidly froze my butt off (I wish !) The little muffin fan in my
heater was not putting out enough air. It was warm enough but not enough
flow. Any ideas for a replacement fan that has a reasonably low amp draw?
Thanks,
Dick Maddux
Rotax 912
Milton,Fl
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 09:44:59 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: heater fan
From: Aluminum Flyer <aluminum.flyer@gmail.com>
We don't use a heater at 25 degrees. We fly at work up to -40 degrees
F. Now that is cold!
Manitoba, Canada
Currently 16 degrees F.
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, <catz631@aol.com> wrote:
> I was out flying yesterday and the OAT was 25 degrees. That's pretty cold
> for Fl so I rapidly froze my butt off (I wish !) The little muffin fan in
my
> heaterwas not putting out enough air. It was warm enough but not enough
> flow. Any ideas for a replacement fan that has a reasonably low amp draw?
> Thanks,
> Dick Maddux
> Rotax 912
> Milton,Fl
>
>
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 11:13:07 AM PST US
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: heater fan
I was flying yesterday, (6 degrees F) and today at about 3 degrees
F....up from minus 3 F, and I was warm enough. I had found a Dr.
Scholl's back pad vibrator and warmer that draws 1000mA...yup, 1 amp.
I only use the heating part and it feels good....you might look into
one of these.
As an aside, I was flying into what looked like low fog/clouds at
about 2500 MSL, and the visibility was getting worse, so I turned
around and headed back home. When I got on the ground, I found about
3/16" of ice on the prop, upper corners of the windshield, and about
1/16" along the front of the wing, just above and just below the
leading edge. There was ice on the jury struts, the landing gear, the
lift struts....just about everywhere. When I started to fly, the sky
was clear, and the sun was out in spots. No indication of foul
weather on the local airport reports, but I was 15 miles from the
reporting station. I had noticed that the visibility was fairly good
out both sides of the plane, but not so good straight ahead. Then I
noticed the ice building on the upper corners of the windshield, near
the spar-to-windshield covers, and I realized that the reason that
the vis wasn't so good straight ahead was because I was trying to see
through an iced up windshield. Ski flying is great, but sometimes you
run into stuff like that.
Got the skis on yet, Dick? : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 834.5 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~167 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
do not archive
On Jan 10, 2010, at 11:12 AM, catz631@aol.com wrote:
> I was out flying yesterday and the OAT was 25 degrees. That's
> pretty cold for Fl so I rapidly froze my butt off (I wish !) The
> little muffin fan in my heater was not putting out enough air. It
> was warm enough but not enough flow. Any ideas for a replacement
> fan that has a reasonably low amp draw?
> Thanks,
> Dick Maddux
> Rotax 912
> Milton,Fl
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________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 11:20:18 AM PST US
From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: heater fan
What was your water temp? I tape my radiator when it is that cold to
keep the water temp up. I too have a muffin fan.
Pete
Kitfox III, 912, grove
N. of Austin, TX
----- Original Message -----
From: catz631@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: heater fan
I was out flying yesterday and the OAT was 25 degrees. That's pretty
cold for Fl so I rapidly froze my butt off (I wish !) The little muffin
fan in my heater was not putting out enough air. It was warm enough but
not enough flow. Any ideas for a replacement fan that has a reasonably
low amp draw?
Thanks,
Dick Maddux
Rotax 912
Milton,Fl
________________________________ Message 6
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Time: 11:37:45 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: heater fan
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
some of the high power CPU cooling fans move alot more air than the stock
fan that
comes with the KF. You can also make a heat muff in about an hour out of
some thin aluminum.
I will get some pics of the install I did on a buddy's Avid that took about
an
hour. in the mean time, I will give a quick description.
.060 aluminum cut to the max length you can get between the muffler hangers.
3
lengths of the fiber rope that goes around fireplace doors. wrap a length
around
each end of the muffler to seal the ends off using the glue / paste that
they provide with the rope. cut out an inlet and outlet hole and make
nozzles
with scrap aluminum by wrapping it around a chunk of wood the size of the
scat
tubing. few pop rivets and some high temp RTV and and you have the nozzles.
Run a length of the rope from one end of the shroud to the other between the
nozzles so the air has to go all the way around the muffler to get to the
outlet.
The secret I found was wrapping the heat muff with a foil backed muffler
wrap to stop the cold air from hitting the outside of the heat muff. I
found
some wrap in the performance section of the local auto-parts store. It came
in a blanket about 30" X 70" and was sort of spendy, but it has done 3
planes
with enough left over to do a couple more.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (100 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280925#280925
________________________________ Message 7
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Time: 01:48:01 PM PST US
From: Robert Rivard <bw12345@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ram Air
I have a Kit Fox 4-Classic with a 2200 Jabiru engine.Is there a problem m
ounting the air filter on the firewall using scat hose to connect to carb?
The carb-vacuum line would be attached to the filter.-I-do not have e
nough room to mount the Jabiru factory filter box for ram air.-
BOB
________________________________ Message 8
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Time: 03:16:26 PM PST US
From: larry copas <lbcopas@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Mod ll, major parts Needed
Left Landing Gear,- L. wing,- L. flaperon
Thanks, Larry Copas Tucson, Az.
lbcopas@yahoo.com
520-323-9080
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________________________________ Message 9
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Time: 03:39:16 PM PST US
From: larry copas <lbcopas@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Milk more power from the 532?
What's the BIGGEST carb for the 532?-- I read about tuned exhaust but s
uch a narrow power band - (usually, where you don't need it) OR, melting pi
stons or disturbing the neighbors...- How about larger carbs?- .. Which
,- Where?- How much?------ Tnx,- Larry
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________________________________ Message 10
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Time: 07:52:25 PM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: heater fan
At 08:12 AM 1/10/2010, you wrote:
>It was warm enough but not enough flow. Any ideas for a replacement
>fan that has a reasonably low amp draw?
Any way you can force feed it some outside air? Or do you want to
stick with a recirc system?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
________________________________ Message 11
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Time: 09:10:27 PM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: New Kitfox Video- your Kitfox is in it Guy.
All,
Steve allowed me to post this to our list. I haven't seen it
but I believe this video is the result of the professional John hired
to shoot the 25th Kitfox birthday fly-in.
>From: "ariz66" <ariz66@cox.net>
>To: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
>Subject: New Kitfox Video- your Kitfox is in it Guy.
>Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:12:19 -0700
>
>Guy.
>
>First off- Happy New Year.
>Hope you have a great 2010.
>Looking forward to seeing you soon.
>
>John and Deb have a new video out which was shot over the 2009
>Kitfox Factory fly-in.
>You and your beautiful model 4 are in it as am I and several other
>guys we know.
>Take a look Guy and hope you enjoy it. John was excited about it and
>called me this evening
>to let me know it was posted on Kitfox Aircraft's homepage. Click on
>the link below in blue.
>Stay well and fly safe and let's have a fun 2010. See you soon I hope.
>Best wishes,
>
>Steve Kellander
><http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/>http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/
>
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