---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/18/10: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - Re: Re: Clear tubing (fox5flyer) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: Clear tubing (Catz631@AOL.COM) 3. 08:17 AM - Re: wheel tracking (PMorel) 4. 09:26 AM - Re: Droopy wing tips. (wingnut) 5. 09:57 AM - Re: Clear tubing (Guy Buchanan) 6. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Clint Bazzill) 7. 10:20 AM - Re: For Sale, not needed (DanM) 8. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (Vic Baker) 9. 10:44 AM - Re: Clear tubing (Catz631@aol.com) 10. 12:15 PM - Re: Clear tubing (Lynn Matteson) 11. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (fox5flyer) 12. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (Lynn Matteson) 13. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (Vic Baker) 14. 02:18 PM - 503 Oil Injection update (Tom Jones) 15. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (jareds) 16. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Dave G) 17. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Lowell Fitt) 18. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (Lynn Matteson) 19. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Clint Bazzill) 20. 07:02 PM - Re: Droopy wing tips. (dave) 21. 07:03 PM - Re: 503 Oil Injection update (dave) 22. 07:04 PM - Re: Clear tubing (dave) 23. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: wheel tracking todays mesasurement (Malcolm Brubaker) 24. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Malcolm Brubaker) 25. 09:33 PM - Re: Re: Rotax spark plugs (Lowell Fitt) 26. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: Droopy wing tips. (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:51 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Clear tubing I kinda thought that was the case. Thanks, Roger. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lee" Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Clear tubing > > I talked to 5 different tubing Mfg's almost 2 years ago and they all said > the die in the auto fuel would turn their tubing brown over time. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286874#286874 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:27 AM PST US From: Catz631@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clear tubing Deke, I just replaced my fuel gauge tubing two days ago with a tubing that has a liner in it. Williams Aircraft sells the stuff and that is what he uses on his fuel sight gauge kit. I tried to fit the tubing on the barbed fittings last year but it waded up the lining so I used the Tygon tubing instead. It turned brown in a year. I don't want to use the blue tubing as it would be too difficult to see the fuel quantity. Anyway, this time, I bought a quantity of this liner tubing figuring I would go through several pieces before I got it on. I then polished the barb fittings, applied some Dry Slide lubricant and, slid the tubing on without damaging the liner. This tubing is supposed to be for caustic chemicals,etc so hopefully gas won't turn hurt it. I will find out what kind of tubing it is today as I have a little of it left. I bought it on line. I also replaced the brass wire that is included with the kits. That was all tarnished up when I removed it. I have since replaced it with a stainless rod to hold the shape of the tube.Anyway,I hope this works better as, like you, I am tired of replacing it all the time. I am also going thru a lot of work on my plane as part of my "annual.' I have replaced all the 17 mm water hoses and made a tool yesterday to pull the gearbox in order to reshim it. I only have 225 hrs on the engine but it is 15 years old and the box is starting to make a little noise and is intermittently hanging up at about 1200 rpm on start as well as this running backwards business on shutdown sometimes. New Belleville (sp) washers and assorted parts are pretty sporty! Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 912UL Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:43 AM PST US From: PMorel Subject: Kitfox-List: re: wheel tracking Malcolm=0A=0ABefore you consider attempting to change the-tracking of you r wheels, consider this.- What I'm talking about is the gear leg that use s bungee cords and not the grove gear.- With bungee cords, the gear is to e in to keep the bungee cords from extending and wheels spreading outward d uring taxi and take-off.- Naturally, if the wheels were toe out, then the gears would want to spread out and the bungee cords would stretch.- The perfect scenario would be to have a straight track, but even with that, I t hink you may be looking for a potential problem.- You need to decide if r eplacement of the tires and expense outweighs the possibility of bungee cor d breaking and more expensive damage and repairs.- =0A=0APaul Morel=0AMod el IV Speedster=0ALocust Grove GA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:50 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. From: "wingnut" Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one airplane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure what to look out for. For instance, are the mounting holes likely to line up or are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also, mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Are they likely to be the same location? -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:53 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clear tubing At 01:04 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend a tubing for this purpose that can stand up to >auto gas and last a little longer than 2 years, or is this the best >I'm going to get considering the circumstances? Deke, I use the blue tubing with a white background and a red tube from a Chem-tool spray can inside. I can see the fuel level pretty well in daylight, though not as well, I'm sure, as new clear tubing. Next time I'll use stainless rod inside. My tube has not discolored, but I use 100LL exclusively. It has oxidized on the outside over the last four years which makes it a little harder to see through. I'll probably replace it when I re-engine this year. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:48 AM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. Those wing tips were never made for the Model IV and later planes. My new Model IV came with tips from a model 3 with under cambered wings. Clint > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > From: wingnut@spamarrest.com > Date: Thu=2C 18 Feb 2010 09:24:31 -0800 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one airpl ane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure what to loo k out for. For instance=2C are the mounting holes likely to line up or are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also=2C mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Are they li kely to be the same location? > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens=2C SC (34A) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:46 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: For Sale, not needed From: "DanM" Items sold, thanks Ed -------- Dan Mc Intyre Kitfox IV , Phase 1 Jabiru 2200 SN 1311 , 27 hours Sensenich 62x46 N443DM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286978#286978 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:44 AM PST US From: "Vic Baker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs How about we leave at noon? Vic Baker S7 912S Warp Carson City, Nv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > Anyone out there found silicone heat conductivity paste, Rotax p/n 897 > 186, for less than $158 for a small tube? > > > Vic Baker > S7 912S Warp > Carson City, Nv > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Lee" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:57 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > >> >> 582 plug threads are dry because of the aluminum heads and if you apply >> any lube you will not torque them correctly (correct torque is 238 >> in/lbs), they will be over torqued and it should be on a cold engine, >> too. >> (page 11-4 of the 2 stroke maint. manual) >> >> -------- >> Roger Lee >> Tucson, Az. >> Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated >> Rotax Service Center >> 520-574-1080 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272879#272879 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:02 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clear tubing Deke, The clear tubing I am using on my wing tanks is Tygon SE-200 . As mentioned earlier,this is the tubing Merle Williams uses in his kit. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:03 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clear tubing Whatever the stuff is that John McBean sells with his fuel level view thing-a-ma-jig is good stuff. I've had mine on since the first of 2006 or before, and I've put (855 hrs x ~4 GPH=3420) 3420 gallons of 100LL through my tanks, and I can still see the fuel level. Some things aren't worth being a pioneer over...John has done the legwork, buy Kitfox. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 855 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Countdown to 1000 hrs~145 to go(157 days to go) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Deke, > The clear tubing I am using on my wing tanks is Tygon SE-200 . As > mentioned earlier,this is the tubing Merle Williams uses in his kit. > Dick Maddux > Fox 4 > Milton,Fl > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:53 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs Try Ebay, Vic. I bought a pretty good sized tube for only a few bucks. I use it in plumbing quite often for things like attaching thermo discs to metal objects like water heaters etc. Noon is fine with me... Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > How about we leave at noon? > > > Vic Baker > S7 912S Warp > Carson City, Nv > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vic Baker" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > >> >> Anyone out there found silicone heat conductivity paste, Rotax p/n 897 >> 186, for less than $158 for a small tube? >> >> >> Vic Baker >> S7 912S Warp >> Carson City, Nv >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Lee" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:57 PM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs >> >> >>> >>> 582 plug threads are dry because of the aluminum heads and if you apply >>> any lube you will not torque them correctly (correct torque is 238 >>> in/lbs), they will be over torqued and it should be on a cold engine, >>> too. >>> (page 11-4 of the 2 stroke maint. manual) >>> >>> -------- >>> Roger Lee >>> Tucson, Az. >>> Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated >>> Rotax Service Center >>> 520-574-1080 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272879#272879 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:15:29 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs It's after noon, so you guys probably left without me, as I was at Radio Shack buying some silicone heat sink compound for a few dollars...NOT $158. Those Rotax people gotta be out of their minds! Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 855 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Countdown to 1000 hrs~145 to go(157 days to go) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) do not archive On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:26 PM, fox5flyer wrote: > > > Try Ebay, Vic. I bought a pretty good sized tube for only a few > bucks. I use it in plumbing quite often for things like attaching > thermo discs to metal objects like water heaters etc. > Noon is fine with me... > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > >> >> How about we leave at noon? >> >> >> >> >> Vic Baker >> S7 912S Warp >> Carson City, Nv >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 AM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs >> >> >>> >>> Anyone out there found silicone heat conductivity paste, Rotax p/ >>> n 897 186, for less than $158 for a small tube? >>> >>> >>> Vic Baker ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:22 PM PST US From: "Vic Baker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs Oops, that "noon" message went to the wrong place ..... coming up on 100 hours now, going to need plugs and that "silicon heat conductivity paste". Radio Shack eh? Vic Baker S7 912S Warp Carson City, Nv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > It's after noon, so you guys probably left without me, as I was at Radio > Shack buying some silicone heat sink compound for a few dollars...NOT > $158. Those Rotax people gotta be out of their minds! > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 855 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > Countdown to 1000 hrs~145 to go(157 days to go) > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) > Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter) > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > do not archive > > > On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:26 PM, fox5flyer wrote: > >> >> Try Ebay, Vic. I bought a pretty good sized tube for only a few bucks. >> I use it in plumbing quite often for things like attaching thermo discs >> to metal objects like water heaters etc. >> Noon is fine with me... >> Deke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:32 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs >> >> >>> >>> How about we leave at noon? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Vic Baker >>> S7 912S Warp >>> Carson City, Nv >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Baker" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 AM >>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Anyone out there found silicone heat conductivity paste, Rotax p/ n >>>> 897 186, for less than $158 for a small tube? >>>> >>>> >>>> Vic Baker > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:13 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: 503 Oil Injection update From: "Tom Jones" I finished the retro fit of an oil injection for my Kitfox a while back and finally we have good weather to test it out. Yesterday I went up and burned three gallons of gas mixed 100:1 to make sure it was working. Today burned my first tank of straight gas. It appears to be using about 60 or 70:1. maybe it's just me but the little 503 seems to run smoother with the injection. I'm happy not to be premixing fuel any more! Attached are some pictures from the test flight. I had another mission to check out a route to take snowmobiling tomorrow. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287037#287037 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/manastash_ridgejpg_584.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/l_t_murray_943.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rocky_prairrie_203.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/mt_rainier_102.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/self_portrait_135.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:01 PM PST US From: "jareds" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. I have seen all kinds of mountings of wing tips. I've also seen many without strobes or any other types of lights. Not a big deal to re mount or relocate holes or wiring but nice to have the schematic in hand if you need to extend the wires. There is no builders blueprint or pattern to my knowledge for mounting the wingtips though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > > Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one > airplane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure what > to look out for. For instance, are the mounting holes likely to line up or > are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also, > mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Are > they likely to be the same location? > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:20 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. Not sure about caveats, they came in two parts and had to be glued together. Mine go on the Model IV ribs fine as that is what they came from. They have the mounts for strobes, not sure I'll put those on the plane again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > > Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one > airplane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure what > to look out for. For instance, are the mounting holes likely to line up or > are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also, > mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Are > they likely to be the same location? > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:54 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. Hi Clint, Beg to differ. Larry's IV has the droop tips and I paid extra on my first Kit for the Speedster tips. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Bazzill" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. Those wing tips were never made for the Model IV and later planes. My new Model IV came with tips from a model 3 with under cambered wings. Clint > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > From: wingnut@spamarrest.com > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:24:31 -0800 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one > airplane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure what > to look out for. For instance, are the mounting holes likely to line up or > are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also, > mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Are > they likely to be the same location? > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:32 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs Reading off the tube: "Silicone-Base Heat Sink Compound 0.23 Oz, Heat conductive-helps transfer heat from component to heat sink or chassis." part #276-1372A This is the stuff that Polyfiber calls for (or similar) to calibrate your iron before using it to shrink the fabric. It just conducts heat, plain and simple. Of course, if Rotax finds out you used the wrong stuff, phone calls to lawyers will follow. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 855 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Countdown to 1000 hrs~145 to go(157 days to go) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) do not archive On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Vic Baker wrote: > > Oops, that "noon" message went to the wrong place ..... coming up > on 100 hours now, going to need plugs and that "silicon heat > conductivity paste". Radio Shack eh? > > > Vic Baker > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:33 PM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. What I ment was=2C the droop tips were for the model I=2C II=2C and III's. Speedster were for 4's and later with the laminar flow wings. Clint > From: lcfitt@sbcglobal.net > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > Date: Thu=2C 18 Feb 2010 16:57:11 -0800 > > > Hi Clint=2C > > Beg to differ. Larry's IV has the droop tips and I paid extra on my first > Kit for the Speedster tips. > > Lowell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Bazzill" > To: "Kitfox list" > Sent: Thursday=2C February 18=2C 2010 10:09 AM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > > > > Those wing tips were never made for the Model IV and later planes. My new > Model IV came with tips from a model 3 with under cambered wings. > > > > Clint > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > > From: wingnut@spamarrest.com > > Date: Thu=2C 18 Feb 2010 09:24:31 -0800 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Are there any caveats to look out for when moving wingtips from one > > airplane to another. I'm not the builder of my Kifox so I'm not sure wh at > > to look out for. For instance=2C are the mounting holes likely to line up or > > are they drilled in place and thus "custom fit" to each airplane? Also =2C > > mine have strobe lights mounted. Do all wingtips have strobe lights? Ar e > > they likely to be the same location? > > > > -------- > > Luis Rodriguez > > Model IV 1200 > > Rotax 912UL > > Flying Weekly > > Laurens=2C SC (34A) > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286965#286965 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== > =========== > =========== > =========== > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:11 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. From: "dave" my model iv has droops and not undercambered I have a mold for model 1 to 3 undercamber droop tip and they are different. what is the gain or loss on each kind of tip ? If any ? I think aesthetics but I would not say that he droop is draggy at all -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287100#287100 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:34 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 503 Oil Injection update From: "dave" Tom, great report . I get same 65 to 1 on average with injection. pre mix you run 50 to 1 all the time -- no wonder pushers complain about residue on their tails lol -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287101#287101 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:29 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Clear tubing From: "dave" clear superthane works fine or urethane fuel line . clear or blue but blue harder to see through. simple -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287102#287102 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:57 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: re: wheel tracking todays mesasurement the tracing was mesasured with a six foot rood 34 inchess of wich was in fr unt of the hub .the frunt was 3 and 5/16 inch narower than the rear is that a little much?- the tires wear about the same it dous not seem one is mo or than the other and the tires wore this way from the time I got the plane .but it is posable that i bent them somhow -- Malcolm Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair LSRM-A, PPC, WS (989)513-3022 --- On Thu, 2/18/10, PMorel wrote: From: PMorel Subject: Kitfox-List: re: wheel tracking Malcolm - Before you consider attempting to change the-tracking of your wheels, con sider this.- What I'm talking about is the gear leg that uses bungee cord s and not the grove gear.- With bungee cords, the gear is toe in to keep the bungee cords from extending and wheels spreading outward during taxi an d take-off.- Naturally, if the wheels were toe out, then the gears would want to spread out and the bungee cords would stretch.- The perfect scena rio would be to have a straight track, but even with that, I think you may be looking for a potential problem.- You need to decide if replacement of the tires and expense outweighs the possibility of bungee cord breaking an d more expensive damage and repairs.- - Paul Morel Model IV Speedster Locust Grove GA =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:53 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. how much for a setof drup tips -for a mod 2 and any idea what a set of wi ngs for a mod 2 is worth if they are ready for covering- - Malcolm Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair LSRM-A, PPC, WS (989)513-3022 --- On Fri, 2/19/10, dave wrote: From: dave Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. my model iv has droops and not undercambered I have a mold for model 1 to 3- undercamber- droop tip and they are dif ferent. what is the gain or loss on- each kind of tip ? If any ? I think aesthetics but I would not say that he droop is draggy at all -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate- the internet- chatter from the trut h- http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287100#287100 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:16 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs Hey Lynn, I don't think I would use a silicone based anything on an instrument that would be used on a surface soon to receive a coat of paint. Are you sure? Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax spark plugs > > Reading off the tube: "Silicone-Base Heat Sink Compound 0.23 Oz, Heat > conductive-helps transfer heat from component to heat sink or chassis." > part #276-1372A > > This is the stuff that Polyfiber calls for (or similar) to calibrate your > iron before using it to shrink the fabric. It just conducts heat, plain > and simple. Of course, if Rotax finds out you used the wrong stuff, phone > calls to lawyers will follow. : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 855 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > Countdown to 1000 hrs~145 to go(157 days to go) > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) > Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter) > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > do not archive > > > On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Vic Baker wrote: > > >> >> Oops, that "noon" message went to the wrong place ..... coming up on >> 100 hours now, going to need plugs and that "silicon heat conductivity >> paste". Radio Shack eh? >> >> >> >> Vic Baker > >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:46 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. Dave, Some of the guys we fly with have the droop tips and others do not - all Model IVs and I think you are right - performance difference is not enough to measure. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:01 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Droopy wing tips. > > my model iv has droops and not undercambered > > I have a mold for model 1 to 3 undercamber droop tip and they are > different. > > what is the gain or loss on each kind of tip ? If any ? > > I think aesthetics but I would not say that he droop is draggy at all > > -------- > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > http://www.cfisher.com/ > Awesome *New Forum * > http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ > Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth > http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287100#287100 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.