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1. 05:22 AM - Re: Exhaust stud thread lock (Catz631@AOL.COM)
2. 05:34 AM - Re: Clear tubing (Catz631@aol.com)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: New Start Up ProceduresNew Start Up Procedures (Catz631@aol.com)
4. 08:35 AM - Re: 582 Start Up Procedure (WurlyBird)
5. 10:22 AM - C-Box w/clutch. WAS 582 Start Up Procedure (Marco Menezes)
6. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: New Start Up Procedures (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust stud thread lock |
Pete,
I just went thru the same thing and 4 of my studs came out. I ordered new
studs and nuts from LEAF. The studs are supposed to be put back with
Locktite 2701 and torqued to 70 inch lbs( I believe) Check the torque as specified
in the parts manual.
I called Fastenall,our local supplier of Locktite,and he did not have the
2701. He called Locktite and found out the 2701 was a special mixture and
was very expensive. The Locktite guy told him that 271 was very close
chemically so that is what I bought. Theoretically you are supposed to replace
the
exhaust nuts when you remove them. My exhaust nuts were stuck to the stud as
yours were and I had thought about just applying the Locktite and screwing
them back in but they were pretty grody so I decided to do the right thing
with new studs and exhaust nuts. Be sure you follow the Rotax SB on torque's
and exhaust flange clearances. I don't recall the number but you will find it
@ _rotax-owner.com_ (rotax-owner.com)
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
912UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Clear tubing |
Deke,
That is the tubing I am using. Order enough so that if you snag the
internal liner putting it over the barbed fitting, you can replace the piece of
tubing. I snagged the liner on the first piece I used but was able to
successfully get the others on by polishing the barb and using a silicone grease
product (very sparingly) to lubricate the barb.
Dick Maddux
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: New Start Up ProceduresNew Start Up Procedures |
Deke,
Primers are used on 912's. I have one on mine and the starting
carbs(choke) are wired in the off position. I bought the plane this way from a
guy in
Mass. I had thought about reactivating the choke system (in fact I bought
the cables,etc) because I certainly wouldn't need the primer here in
Florida...Right? However, the system works so well for start, I decided to keep
it.
The only disadvantage I can see is not having the choke available to
troubleshoot possible carburetor problems.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Rotax 912 UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Start Up Procedure |
Marco, I see you are using a clutch on the 582. I thought about this since it
is supposed to make low RPM idle very nice but I decided against it since I would
have no way to manually advance the engine for checking the cylinders, hand
propping, etc. Have you found this to be an issue or does it not affect your
flying?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | C-Box w/clutch. WAS 582 Start Up Procedure |
James,
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I haven't had the occasion to need to-manually advance the engine for ins
pection or otherwise. I just "bump" the starter. The clutch does make it st
art easier and "idle" much smoother although I've had problems rejetting an
d adjusting the idle low enough (below 2500 rpm) to keep the prop from enga
ging. As soon as it's warmed up, it idles at about 2500 and the prop spins
away. I've learned to live with it.
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My main concern is the engine out situation, drag-and drastically increas
ed sink-rate that I expect will result from a free-wheeling prop. One of th
ese days I'll climb to-about 5000-agl (over the field), cut power and d
iscover exactly what happens. Alot of people have speculated on this but I
don't think we have any real data on it yet.
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Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch
Hersey, MI
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil> wrote:
From: WurlyBird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 Start Up Procedure
l>
Marco, I see you are using a clutch on the 582.- I thought about this sin
ce it is supposed to make low RPM idle very nice but I decided against it s
ince I would have no way to manually advance the engine for checking the cy
linders, hand propping, etc.- Have you found this to be an issue or does
it not affect your flying?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287645#287645
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| Subject: | Re: New Start Up Procedures |
At 03:28 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
>With the throttle all the way out it will idle a little below 2000
>which is way lower then I manually set idle, about 2600-3000. I may
>just have to look into a primer.
You guys must not be running clutches. I idle at 1500 and have no
problem starting at any temperature the battery will support. (Down
to about 25F here in sunny SoCal.) I use the standard choke.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
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