---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/28/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Re: engines (Catz631@AOL.COM) 2. 08:32 AM - Re: engines (Patrick Reilly) 3. 10:21 AM - Re: engines (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:04 AM PST US From: Catz631@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engines Ed, I too am very impressed with the UL engine. I saw it at Sebring and Lakeland . It is a very nice design,light.modern and produces significant horsepower. I don't think there are that many in the US. Why don't you buy one, install it, and give us a report. Dick Maddux Fox 4 912UL Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engines From: Patrick Reilly Ed, I don't get it? When I got involved with airplanes my wife said, "Don't you think we should be a 2 income family to afford those airplanes?" I told her that her job already took alot of her time. I don't know how she could handle a part time job too. But if she wanted to try, go ahead. So she did. I couldn't handle it without her. Do not archive Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild W10 Tailwind Refurbish RV4 Kit Rockford, IL On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Ed Gray wrote: > KF builders, help me with some advice on engines. I am building my > second Fox, a model 4 1200. I want about 100 horsepower to lift amphib > floats. Do not want to pay for Rotax 914 or Rotec 2800. Don=92t want th e > weight of Rotec or Jab 3300. I have seen ads for the Verner VM 133 which > looks like a sweet engine with really low gas consumption. Also the UL 4 > cylinder boxer made in Belgium (air cooled, fadec, injected) almost same > cost of a 912 but looks like a better, simpler, more modern engine. I al so > like what I have heard about the Raven 1300 setup for the 4 cyl Geo-Suzuk i. > Anyone have any knowledge/comments on these engines. Yeah, I know, I sho uld > get a loan and hang a Rotec on it and I would if didn=92t have a wife! > > > Ed Gray, Dallas mod2 582 flying and Mod 4 no fwf building do not archive > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford,IL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:55 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engines Hi Ed, Engine choice, tough decision. It reminds me of a recent conversation with a neighbor who is a project manager with Aerojet - yes, a real rocket scientist. The way he tells it, a customer gives a set of specifications - you have mentioned yours - and a design team is assigned to come up with something that will work. Then after this work is completed, they convene a large meeting with engineers not associated with the design and they have at it. Comments can become personal. "That's the stupidest thing I have ever seen, and you call yourself an engineer", to quote him as an often heard comment. The purpose of the meeting, of course is to discover weakness in the design before the expensive prototype is actually constructed. I suspect you have begun the show me what's wrong with my design stage. I guess my only comment this time around would be why you have not put the Rotax 912ULS at 100 hp into the mix. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Gray" Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: engines > KF builders, help me with some advice on engines. I am building my second > Fox, a model 4 1200. I want about 100 horsepower to lift amphib floats. > Do > not want to pay for Rotax 914 or Rotec 2800. Don't want the weight of > Rotec > or Jab 3300. I have seen ads for the Verner VM 133 which looks like a > sweet > engine with really low gas consumption. Also the UL 4 cylinder boxer made > in Belgium (air cooled, fadec, injected) almost same cost of a 912 but > looks > like a better, simpler, more modern engine. I also like what I have heard > about the Raven 1300 setup for the 4 cyl Geo-Suzuki. Anyone have any > knowledge/comments on these engines. Yeah, I know, I should get a loan > and > hang a Rotec on it and I would if didn't have a wife! > > > Ed Gray, Dallas mod2 582 flying and Mod 4 no fwf building do not archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.