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1. 06:48 AM - Re: warp propeller bolts (Catz631@aol.com)
2. 06:50 AM - Re: Airspeed indicator fail (again) (Noel Loveys)
3. 08:31 AM - Re: warp propeller bolts (Noel Loveys)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: warp propeller bolts (Noel Loveys)
5. 08:42 AM - after market 582 parts (jerry evans)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: after market 582 parts (Dave Fisher)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: after market 582 parts (akflyer)
8. 03:25 PM - Re: warp propeller bolts (Roger Lee)
9. 09:21 PM - Kit Fox N554KF has been sold (steve shinabery)
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| Subject: | Re: warp propeller bolts |
The prop bushings on my Warp are threaded so I am able to torque the prop
and safety wire the drilled heads of the bolts. (ala: a conventional
aircraft) There must have been a change in the Rotax prop flange somewhere along
the
line because every hole(except the larger outer) is threaded. I have a mid
90's engine.
When I tried the Kiev prop I had to remove the prop bushings as the Kiev
hub fastened to the inner ring of holes on the prop flange. This inner ring
of holes on the prop flange was also threaded and I was able to torque the
bolts and used lock nuts on the back to give more thread area. I drilled the
heads of the bolts and used safety wire there.(probably overkill) I don't
really like that method of fastening the hub to the inner ring of holes but
that's the only way to do it..The Warp system seems to be more stable with
the bushings, wider hub support,etc
I ended up going back to the Warp as I had the wrong Kiev prop (was for
100hp) and it didn't perform as well at cruise. I have ordered the proper
shorter blade Kiev and will give that one a shot cause I sure like it. It is one
smooth prop. (like a turbine)
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
912 UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Airspeed indicator fail (again) |
Disconnect your pitot line at the ASI and blow a bit of N2 backward through
it. What are bets you will find some six or eight legged varmint inside the
tube. No N2? Then try filtered shop air. If that doesn't work check for a
leak somewhere in the pitot line again a little shop air will make finding
the leak easy.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carlisle
Sent: April 8, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Airspeed indicator fail (again)
Finished spring inspection and cleanup on my Model II. Took it up for first
flight and the ASI reads 40 mph too low. This is the second time it's
failed. First one was replaced last year and had only 150 hrs on it. New
one has less than 25.
Wonder if the extreme cold here in Sioux Falls has anything to do with it?
Plane is hangared.
Chris
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| Subject: | warp propeller bolts |
Their outlook is probably the same as Ivo. That is amateur mechanics are
terrified to cut a piece of lock wire to check a torque for regular
scheduled maintenance. I think they are wrong but do what I'm told by the
Mfgr.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob noffs
Sent: April 9, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: warp propeller bolts
hi all,
warp suggests using lock nuts on their attachment of their hub to the
engine. has anyone run into a faa inspecter that wants to see a drilled
bolt and a cotter key? maybe i should go that route from the start?
bob noffs
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| Subject: | warp propeller bolts |
There are several instances where the manufacturers maintenance manuals will
specify things that fly in the face of conventional procedures but in all
those instances the manual is the law and must be followed.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Reilly
Sent: April 9, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: warp propeller bolts
Bob, I have a Warp Drive. No problem with the FAA inspection and Nyloc nuts.
There was no comment made so I can't really say the nuts were noticed. The
spinner was off for the inspection though. The AP I had do the condition
inspection asked about them. I commented that's what the mfg specified.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:45 AM, bob noffs <icubob@gmail.com> wrote:
hi all,
warp suggests using lock nuts on their attachment of their hub to the
engine. has anyone run into a faa inspecter that wants to see a drilled
bolt and a cotter key? maybe i should go that route from the start?
bob noffs
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| Subject: | after market 582 parts |
How good is after market Rotax 582 parts? I see on e-bay under Rotax, after
market top end pistons and gaskets sets are a lot cheaper the CPS . Has an
yone used these parts? Teflon coated pistons?-$299.00 for all gaskets and
pistons and rings .-Please any input would be appreciated.
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
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| Subject: | Re: after market 582 parts |
garbage.
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From: jerry evans
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: after market 582 parts
How good is after market Rotax 582 parts? I see on e-bay under
Rotax, after market top end pistons and gaskets sets are a lot cheaper
the CPS . Has anyone used these parts? Teflon coated pistons? $299.00
for all gaskets and pistons and rings . Please any input would be
appreciated.
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
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| Subject: | Re: after market 582 parts |
X 2 on the pistons being garbage. They are selling single ring SPI pistons and
they are junk. Well the piston is OK but the rings are not. We had 2 different
engines we put them in and I had an engine out due to collapsed rings and
the other engine we caught on take off and aborted as it would not develop full
RPM after only about 5 hrs run time. That engine was like a turbine as you
could turn the prop with one finger and barely feel the compression as you spun
it over.
That being said, I have used the after market Ebay gaskets in 4 engines and have
not had any issues with the gaskets or seals!
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1450
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
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| Subject: | Re: warp propeller bolts |
Hi BOB,
The long 8.8 bolts on the hub with the Nylocs are torqued to 174 in/lbs for a Warp.
Other prop Mfg's have different specs. You can check them every annual. Replacing
them? Well some say if you take it off replace it. Some say if you take
it off 2-3 times and others say if you can unscrew them by hand. Kind of depends
who you want to listen to. For me it depends on what a nut is holding in
place and how critical it is. Having done this for many years I would say if
you take it off a couple of times then toss it and put a new one on. Others here
may tell you use it once then toss it. Once on though and never have removed
it, then there is no reason to change it, unless something odd happens.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Kit Fox N554KF has been sold |
N554KF has been sold to a new owner..this past year has been a ruff one
for me..be cause alot to due with the down turn in car sales....I work
at HONDA car engine plant..and our sales have fell off the charts,with
the other car company s..I hate to sell my KF2..But I will still
fly.since I own a 1/4 share in a C150...and to be honest.I am not a good
tail wheel pilot..I have had my KF for sale for app 1+1/2 years..and had
a lot of tire kickers on it..but this sale came through..with the new
owner..N554KF will soon have a new home in a warmer state..than OHIO..I
would like to say thank you all for.letting me in to the KF family..and
I would like you to welcome the new owner to the KF family..as sure as I
know he will be joining .the group..here on the matronics list..all so
it seems like at,my home air port..the board is pushing the little guys
out of our home air port...and it is getting harder to find some one to
do the annuals.and sign off work etc.on home built aircraft..they do not
want to take a chance on them any more..and sign there name in the log
books...so with due regret .I decided to sell N554KF....and thanks
Steve Shinabery N554KF.St.Marys Ohio...
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