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1. 09:24 AM - Re: Old Jab - thoughts (Don McIntosh)
2. 10:57 AM - Windshield Replacement (rawheels)
3. 02:25 PM - Re: Windshield Replacement (Patrick Reilly)
4. 02:35 PM - Part number for Mercedes gasket. (Clint Bazzill)
5. 06:02 PM - Re: Windshield Replacement (Lowell FITT)
6. 07:05 PM - Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. (Av8r3400)
7. 07:13 PM - Re: Windshield Replacement (Av8r3400)
8. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. (Bill Hammond)
9. 09:30 PM - Re: Windshield Replacement (Clint Bazzill)
10. 09:33 PM - Re: Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. (Clint Bazzill)
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| Subject: | Re: Old Jab - thoughts |
There is an interesting article in the January EAA Sport Aviation Magazine on TBO
and how the airlines have gotten away from this as a basis for maintenance
based on statistical data.
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Don McIntosh
Kitfox Series 7
Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Windshield Replacement |
There is a pretty huge cost savings between the preformed acrylic windshields and
the windshield kit (.090 lexan and a pattern) from Kitfox. Is forming a new
windshield from flat stock something that a first timer can actually do? Or,
am I going to end up buying multiple sheets of flat stock trying to accomplish
an impossible task?
Also, after doing a search on previous posts it looks like some have used .060"
and some .090" lexan. Sounded like the .060" was a lot easier to use. If so,
should I see about the possibility of just buying a pattern from Kitfox and
try to figure out where I can get some of the thiner stuff locally (or ask the
McBeans if the thiner is an option)?
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Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Replacement |
Ryan, I built my own using the old one as a pattern and used thicker than
.060. I used something other than std Lexan or Plexi. I can't remember what
it is. It is softer and more flexible than lexan or Plexi. I would look up
what it is but I'd hesitate to recommend it as school isn't out yet on it.
It did craze at the top corner bends. I actually built mine in 2 pieces. The
top of the cabin is tinted Lexan, windshield clear what ever it is.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 REBUILT
Rockford, IL
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:56 PM, rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> There is a pretty huge cost savings between the preformed acrylic
> windshields and the windshield kit (.090 lexan and a pattern) from Kitfox.
> Is forming a new windshield from flat stock something that a first timer
> can actually do? Or, am I going to end up buying multiple sheets of flat
> stock trying to accomplish an impossible task?
>
> Also, after doing a search on previous posts it looks like some have used
> .060" and some .090" lexan. Sounded like the .060" was a lot easier to use.
> If so, should I see about the possibility of just buying a pattern from
> Kitfox and try to figure out where I can get some of the thiner stuff
> locally (or ask the McBeans if the thiner is an option)?
>
> --------
> Ryan Wheeler
> Kitfox IV-1200
> Indianapolis, IN
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295888#295888
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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| Subject: | Part number for Mercedes gasket. |
Hi=2C
What is the part number for the Mercedes gas tank gasket that we use on our
fuel tanks?
Thanks
Clint
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Replacement |
Ryan,
There is no set pattern for the windshield. Every builder would set rivet/screw
spacing, exact cowl placement, etc. They are essentially a one off design, but
once made the pattern will work forever on that particular Kitfox.
Yes anyone can fit one by following the instructions in the builders manual. John
might be able to help there.
Regarding thickness. The .060" was standard on all regular Model IVs and earlier
models. The .093" was standard on the Speedster and allowed for the higher
VNE. I understand it is the only limiting factor there. The .093 is a bit more
able to withstand the speeds without caving in a bit in the front so many opted
for that and I suspect that is where you read of the problems installing
and also the greater tendency for crazing at the bend. I recently rechecked
the spec sheets for the minimum recommended bend radius and it is 100 times the
material thickness. Example, the .060 would have a minumum ideal bend of 6"
radius. We are seriously over stressing this material in our application. For
what it's worth, I plan on using the .060 on my new (old) model IV. Also there
are a number of brands of Polycarbonate, Lexan is one. I plan on using the
variety sold by a local supplier.
I am presently out of town or would check the manual for more specific instructions.
If you don't find help in that area before I get home, post again.
Lowell
--- On Tue, 4/27/10, rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Windshield Replacement
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 10:56 AM
> "rawheels" <rawheels@yahoo.com>
>
> There is a pretty huge cost savings between the preformed
> acrylic windshields and the windshield kit (.090 lexan and a
> pattern) from Kitfox. Is forming a new windshield from
> flat stock something that a first timer can actually
> do? Or, am I going to end up buying multiple sheets of
> flat stock trying to accomplish an impossible task?
>
> Also, after doing a search on previous posts it looks like
> some have used .060" and some .090" lexan. Sounded
> like the .060" was a lot easier to use. If so, should
> I see about the possibility of just buying a pattern from
> Kitfox and try to figure out where I can get some of the
> thiner stuff locally (or ask the McBeans if the thiner is an
> option)?
>
> --------
> Ryan Wheeler
> Kitfox IV-1200
> Indianapolis, IN
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. |
I used Cessna fuel cap gaskets. They worked perfectly and were $5 each from Wag-Aero
at Sun 'n Fun. No more fuel stains...
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Thanks,
Av8r3400
Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Replacement |
If you have ever seen or even better flown in a plane with the molded windshield/skylight,
you will easily be able to justify the cost. There is no comparison.
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Thanks,
Av8r3400
Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
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| Subject: | Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. |
They are called SEAL RING part # is 140 471 00 79.
William Hammond
Series 6
Parker, CO
Av8r3400 wrote:
>
> I used Cessna fuel cap gaskets. They worked perfectly and were $5 each from
Wag-Aero at Sun 'n Fun. No more fuel stains...
>
> --------
> Thanks,
> Av8r3400
>
> Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
> Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295950#295950
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| Subject: | Windshield Replacement |
Lowell=2C
I disagree about the thickness=2C the Model IV's were .093 inch and the Spe
edster was .118. They had problems with cracking and changed the Speedster
to .093. Its in the Service
Bulleton #34. I replaced my windshield with the Tapp Plastic .118 inch (3m
m). Annealed it with heat gun and it has held up for many years. If I hit
a bird=2C would like the thicker windshield. The increase in airspeed Vne
of 140 for the Speedster as compared to the IV's 125 was the extra windshie
ld thickness.
Check out link below.
http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/support/service_bulletins/sb34.htm
> Date: Tue=2C 27 Apr 2010 18:00:01 -0700
> From: lcfitt@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Windshield Replacement
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Ryan=2C
>
> There is no set pattern for the windshield. Every builder would set rivet
/screw spacing=2C exact cowl placement=2C etc. They are essentially a one o
ff design=2C but once made the pattern will work forever on that particular
Kitfox.
>
> Yes anyone can fit one by following the instructions in the builders manu
al. John might be able to help there.
>
> Regarding thickness. The .060" was standard on all regular Model IVs and
earlier models. The .093" was standard on the Speedster and allowed for th
e higher VNE. I understand it is the only limiting factor there. The .093
is a bit more able to withstand the speeds without caving in a bit in the
front so many opted for that and I suspect that is where you read of the p
roblems installing and also the greater tendency for crazing at the bend.
I recently rechecked the spec sheets for the minimum recommended bend radiu
s and it is 100 times the material thickness. Example=2C the .060 would ha
ve a minumum ideal bend of 6" radius. We are seriously over stressing this
material in our application. For what it's worth=2C I plan on using the .
060 on my new (old) model IV. Also there are a number of brands of Polycar
bonate=2C Lexan is one. I plan on using the variety sold by a local suppli
er.
>
> I am presently out of town or would check the manual for more specific in
structions. If you don't find help in that area before I get home=2C post
again.
>
> Lowell
>
> --- On Tue=2C 4/27/10=2C rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: rawheels <rawheels@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Windshield Replacement
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Tuesday=2C April 27=2C 2010=2C 10:56 AM
> > "rawheels" <rawheels@yahoo.com>
> >
> > There is a pretty huge cost savings between the preformed
> > acrylic windshields and the windshield kit (.090 lexan and a
> > pattern) from Kitfox. Is forming a new windshield from
> > flat stock something that a first timer can actually
> > do? Or=2C am I going to end up buying multiple sheets of
> > flat stock trying to accomplish an impossible task?
> >
> > Also=2C after doing a search on previous posts it looks like
> > some have used .060" and some .090" lexan. Sounded
> > like the .060" was a lot easier to use. If so=2C should
> > I see about the possibility of just buying a pattern from
> > Kitfox and try to figure out where I can get some of the
> > thiner stuff locally (or ask the McBeans if the thiner is an
> > option)?
> >
> > --------
> > Ryan Wheeler
> > Kitfox IV-1200
> > Indianapolis=2C IN
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket. |
Thanks Bill.
> Date: Tue=2C 27 Apr 2010 20:39:32 -0600
> From: kitfox@itsys3.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Part number for Mercedes gasket.
>
>
> They are called SEAL RING part # is 140 471 00 79.
>
> William Hammond
> Series 6
> Parker=2C CO
>
> Av8r3400 wrote:
> >
> > I used Cessna fuel cap gaskets. They worked perfectly and were $5 each
from Wag-Aero at Sun 'n Fun. No more fuel stains...
> >
> > --------
> > Thanks=2C
> > Av8r3400
> >
> > Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL &=3B IVO
> > Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL &=3B Warp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295950#295950
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