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2. 06:22 AM - Matco brakes break in procedure (Tom Jones)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (kirk hull)
4. 02:36 PM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Tom Jones)
5. 04:13 PM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Roger Lee)
6. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Ted Palamarek)
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- ---1. 07:58 AM - Re: rudder pedals- (fox5flyer)
- ---2. 01:31 PM - Re: rudder pedals- (Tex Mantell)
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From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals
I have a set from a model II.- Would they work for you?
Deke
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals
do you have the mounting bars that attach to the floorboards? very
interested.- Tex
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| Subject: | Matco brakes break in procedure |
Can someone tell me the procedure to break in new matco brake pads? I can only
find it on the Matco web site which is to taxi 30 to 40 mph and then brake to
5 mph a few times. I don't want to taxi that fast.
Somewhere I read that the procedure on a kitfox is to taxi a certain speed and
distance while applying some break pressure but I can't find that now. I seem
to get everything but brake information when I search for this.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Matco brakes break in procedure |
Breaking from 40 to 5 sounds like a normal landing. So 3 or 4 full stop
landings should do it
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Matco brakes break in procedure
Can someone tell me the procedure to break in new matco brake pads? I can
only find it on the Matco web site which is to taxi 30 to 40 mph and then
brake to 5 mph a few times. I don't want to taxi that fast.
Somewhere I read that the procedure on a kitfox is to taxi a certain speed
and distance while applying some break pressure but I can't find that now.
I seem to get everything but brake information when I search for this.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brakes break in procedure |
Kirk, I was thinking about just normal landings too but I got the impression that
the brake pads need to get fairly hot. They would probably be cooled down
between landings. They emphasize not to come to a full stop between breaking
actions during the procedure also and to release brake pedal pressure as soon
as you park after the procedure and wait until the disk is cool to the touch before
using them again.
It seems to me the procedure was in my builders manual but I can't find it now
so maybe not.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brakes break in procedure |
Hi Tom,
You don't have to taxi that fast. You are only trying to heat the pads up to a
certain temp. Just taxi 15mph and drag the brakes for about 10-15 minutes. You
don't need to stop, just heat them up. After I get done with that little procedure
I try a few hard stops. The next 6 or so landings don't baby them use them
to stop fairly quickly, but don't try to stop real hard. They will get better
and better during the first 6 or so landings. I have mounted and installed
at least 40+ Matco brake sets and have never had any issue.
Matco recommends Loctite 567 to seal all you brake application threads. I use it
and have never had a leak. I have tried other things in the past and had oozing
past the threads.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brakes break in procedure |
Tom
Here is Matco's break in procedure --- I got it from Matco's site.
Cheers
Ted Palamarek
Edmonton
KF-IV/9`12UL
Question:
Why do my brakes feel spongy or weak?
Answer:
Check to ensure that there is no air in the system. Air can be trapped in
any high spot in the line and often cannot be "pumped" out. Ensure no high
spots during bleeding. The following bleeding procedure may be used:
Check to ensure that your linings have been adequately broken in using a
standard break in procedure. Your lining should produce a shiny transfer
layer if properly conditioned. The following procedure should be adequate to
condition the linings: 1) Apply brake pressure for high throttle static
run-up. Note RPM at creep if any. 2) Perform 2-3 high-speed taxi runs (firm
braking from 30-40 mph to 5 mph) to generate 300-400 degrees at brake pads.
Do not bring aircraft to a complete stop during the taxi runs and also allow
the aircraft to roll until back to the tie down area. Release brake pressure
at tie down area as soon as practicable and park with brake pressure off. 3)
Allow brakes to cool 10-15 minutes. 4) Repeat step 1. There should be a
noticeable increase in holding torque. Repeat steps 1-3 if necessary.
Properly conditioned pads and discs will have a uniform, shiny appearance on
the surface.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure
Kirk, I was thinking about just normal landings too but I got the impression
that the brake pads need to get fairly hot. They would probably be cooled
down between landings. They emphasize not to come to a full stop between
breaking actions during the procedure also and to release brake pedal
pressure as soon as you park after the procedure and wait until the disk is
cool to the touch before using them again.
It seems to me the procedure was in my builders manual but I can't find it
now so maybe not.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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