---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/17/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:05 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Unsubscribe Please (william lurcott) 2. 06:22 AM - Matco brakes break in procedure (Tom Jones) 3. 06:37 AM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (kirk hull) 4. 02:36 PM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Tom Jones) 5. 04:13 PM - Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Roger Lee) 6. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure (Ted Palamarek) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:29 AM PST US From: william lurcott Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Unsubscribe Please --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Kitfox-List Digest Server wrote: From: Kitfox-List Digest Server Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/16/10 * ======================== ---Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below.- The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation.- The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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Deke - ----- Original Message ----- - From: Tex Mantell - To: kitfox-list@matronics.com - Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:13 PM - Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals - I am looking for a set of rudder pedals. If anyone is parting out a fox please let me know.---TEX ________________________________- Message 2- __________________________ ___________ Time: 01:31:27 PM PST US From: "Tex Mantell" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals do you have the mounting bars that attach to the floorboards? very interested.- Tex - ----- Original Message ----- - From: fox5flyer - To: kitfox-list@matronics.com - Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:57 AM - Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals - I have a set from a model II.- Would they work for you? - Deke - - ----- Original Message ----- - - From: Tex Mantell - - To: kitfox-list@matronics.com - - Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:13 PM - - Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals - - I am looking for a set of rudder pedals. If anyone is parting out a fox please let me know.---TEX href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:31 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Matco brakes break in procedure From: "Tom Jones" Can someone tell me the procedure to break in new matco brake pads? I can only find it on the Matco web site which is to taxi 30 to 40 mph and then brake to 5 mph a few times. I don't want to taxi that fast. Somewhere I read that the procedure on a kitfox is to taxi a certain speed and distance while applying some break pressure but I can't find that now. I seem to get everything but brake information when I search for this. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297964#297964 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:50 AM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Matco brakes break in procedure Breaking from 40 to 5 sounds like a normal landing. So 3 or 4 full stop landings should do it -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Matco brakes break in procedure Can someone tell me the procedure to break in new matco brake pads? I can only find it on the Matco web site which is to taxi 30 to 40 mph and then brake to 5 mph a few times. I don't want to taxi that fast. Somewhere I read that the procedure on a kitfox is to taxi a certain speed and distance while applying some break pressure but I can't find that now. I seem to get everything but brake information when I search for this. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297964#297964 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:34 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure From: "Tom Jones" Kirk, I was thinking about just normal landings too but I got the impression that the brake pads need to get fairly hot. They would probably be cooled down between landings. They emphasize not to come to a full stop between breaking actions during the procedure also and to release brake pedal pressure as soon as you park after the procedure and wait until the disk is cool to the touch before using them again. It seems to me the procedure was in my builders manual but I can't find it now so maybe not. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298009#298009 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:44 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure From: "Roger Lee" Hi Tom, You don't have to taxi that fast. You are only trying to heat the pads up to a certain temp. Just taxi 15mph and drag the brakes for about 10-15 minutes. You don't need to stop, just heat them up. After I get done with that little procedure I try a few hard stops. The next 6 or so landings don't baby them use them to stop fairly quickly, but don't try to stop real hard. They will get better and better during the first 6 or so landings. I have mounted and installed at least 40+ Matco brake sets and have never had any issue. Matco recommends Loctite 567 to seal all you brake application threads. I use it and have never had a leak. I have tried other things in the past and had oozing past the threads. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298015#298015 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:14 PM PST US From: "Ted Palamarek" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure Tom Here is Matco's break in procedure --- I got it from Matco's site. Cheers Ted Palamarek Edmonton KF-IV/9`12UL Question: Why do my brakes feel spongy or weak? Answer: Check to ensure that there is no air in the system. Air can be trapped in any high spot in the line and often cannot be "pumped" out. Ensure no high spots during bleeding. The following bleeding procedure may be used: Check to ensure that your linings have been adequately broken in using a standard break in procedure. Your lining should produce a shiny transfer layer if properly conditioned. The following procedure should be adequate to condition the linings: 1) Apply brake pressure for high throttle static run-up. Note RPM at creep if any. 2) Perform 2-3 high-speed taxi runs (firm braking from 30-40 mph to 5 mph) to generate 300-400 degrees at brake pads. Do not bring aircraft to a complete stop during the taxi runs and also allow the aircraft to roll until back to the tie down area. Release brake pressure at tie down area as soon as practicable and park with brake pressure off. 3) Allow brakes to cool 10-15 minutes. 4) Repeat step 1. There should be a noticeable increase in holding torque. Repeat steps 1-3 if necessary. Properly conditioned pads and discs will have a uniform, shiny appearance on the surface. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Matco brakes break in procedure Kirk, I was thinking about just normal landings too but I got the impression that the brake pads need to get fairly hot. They would probably be cooled down between landings. They emphasize not to come to a full stop between breaking actions during the procedure also and to release brake pedal pressure as soon as you park after the procedure and wait until the disk is cool to the touch before using them again. It seems to me the procedure was in my builders manual but I can't find it now so maybe not. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.