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Mon 05/31/10


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 01:54 PM - Michigan Kitfox'ers at Dawn Patrol, Memorial Day Services (Lynn Matteson)
     2. 05:24 PM - Insurance Premiums UGH (paul perry)
     3. 06:01 PM - Fuel primer. (Jeffrey Dill)
     4. 06:15 PM - Re: Fuel primer. (dave)
     5. 07:37 PM - Re: Insurance Premiums UGH (floran higgins)
     6. 08:01 PM - Re: Insurance Premiums UGH (Clint Bazzill)
     7. 08:51 PM - Re: Flaperon tube looseness? (cschmokel)
     8. 10:06 PM - prop hub questoin (Cwehner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:54:15 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Michigan Kitfox'ers at Dawn Patrol, Memorial Day Services
    Myself, Marco, and one other (the owner never showed up at his plane while I was there) Kitfox flew into Y91...Home Acres, yesterday for a Dawn Patrol breakfast. Today, I took part in a Memorial Day fly-over at three small towns near here. There was a Stearman bi-plane, a C-172, a C-150, a MD-5 Maule, an Ercoupe and my Kitfox. We flew over the Brooklyn, MI parade, the Cement City parade, and the gathering at the Napoleon Cemetery. We had tried to coordinate the three flights to avoid having to land each time, but that wasn't meant to be. So we made three individual flights, landing and "de-briefing" after the down- and-back passes at each site. While waiting for the last fly-over which was to be at Napoleon, a storm was coming our way and we were hoping to get the alert phone call before it hit...we did, and off we went....this one would have to be a one-pass deal, and it's a good thing, 'cause we were getting tossed about a good bit by the winds, and maybe a bit of propwash turbulence to boot. We made the pass, broke off toward our respective hangars...the other 5 going back to 3NP, and I made a kind of "missing man" peel-up" and went the other way home. I was getting some strong winds rockin' me around, but got it in over the trees and safely home....piece of cake. : ) Five minutes later, the rain hit. Now that I think about it, maybe Marco DIDN'T fly in yesterday....I never saw him actually run the engine. I DID, however, see him run when I started my engine....maybe it was the straight-pipes barkin', or maybe the rumor that Jabiru engines throw out a lot of parts when they run.....hmmmmmm.....: ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 961.3 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Countdown to 1000 hrs~38.3 to go(54 days to go) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning)


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    Time: 05:24:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Insurance Premiums UGH
    From: "paul perry" <pperryrph@sbcglobal.net>
    I have purchased my insurance for the 2 years that I have owned my Kitfox IV Speedster through the EAA program which uses Falcon Ins as the broker and the actual insuring company has been Global. I have a little over 700 total hrs, 100 tailwheel of which about 70 is in the Kitfox. I just rec'd my renewal and the premium has increased to $995 and this is for liability and not in motion only coverage. This is about what I paid the first year, but last year it was about $100 or so lower and was hoping it would decrease again this year instead of increasing. Quotes on full coverage the previous years were about $500 more and I haven't asked this year. I realize that the cost of the premium is affected by a lot of factors such as where the plane is located/hangar'd, age of pilot (I'm 58), pilot rating (I'm still a private pilot with current medical), and previous ins claims (I did have a C172 destroyed inside a hangar during a storm). Previous to owning the Kitfox I could get full coverage on a C172 valued at $35k for less than $800/yr and I insured a Cherokee 140 in 2007 ($30k) for less than $600/yr., so I have been disapointed at the cost of insuring the Kitfox. I would appreciate knowing if what I'm presently paying is consistent with what others are paying and if anyone else has a better deal ??? Thanks, Paul Perry Kitfox IV Speedster 912UL/IVO Prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299496#299496


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    Time: 06:01:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel primer.
    From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
    After troubleshooting fuel leaking out of one of my Bing carbs while the engine was not running, I figured out that the source was the primer line. My assumption was that years and ethanol combined to erode the innards of my primer and I perused Aircraft Spruce for another. I saw a plunger type, just like the one I had, and a bulb type. If you do a search on Aircraft Spruce for "fuel primer" you will see my choices. I chose the bulb type because it was lighter. Anybody who flies a model 2 would understand that. It came quickly and I installed it, only to find that I still had the leak. So now I must ask what is going on? Why does a new primer allow fuel to flow when not pumped? Is there something about the plunger type that makes it required for my bing carbs? If I remove the primer entirely, how do I deal with the leftover holes in my carbs? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php -------- Jeff Dill Model 2 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299499#299499


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    Time: 06:15:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel primer.
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Jeff, Stay away form those bulb type primers- trouble lurking. Call Rotax 866-418-4164 and get a new one. about 20$ . They can leak after a while yes--- I turn off my fuel shut off when not flying. Make sure you are plumbed after the shot off for your primer. I had a old Kitfox 2 here that flew in -- I did a service - Get this -- the fuel line that went from gascolator to impulse fuel pump had cracks in it ........ i touched it and it squirted out --- SCARY !! and it was that Black automotive fuel line............. i replaced them all with blue urethane fuel line and safety wire. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299501#299501


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    Time: 07:37:16 PM PST US
    From: "floran higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
    Subject: Re: Insurance Premiums UGH
    I have been insured with Avemco for over 10 years. I have over 17,00 hrs with over 8000 taildragger and 900 hrs in a Kitfox, and I have never had a claim. My rates went up the last two years so I called and asked why. They told me that it was because of my age. When you reach a certain age they automatily raise the rates. Floran Higgins Helena, Mt Speedster 912ULS ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul perry" <pperryrph@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance Premiums UGH > > I have purchased my insurance for the 2 years that I have owned my Kitfox > IV Speedster through the EAA program which uses Falcon Ins as the broker > and the actual insuring company has been Global. I have a little over 700 > total hrs, 100 tailwheel of which about 70 is in the Kitfox. I just rec'd > my renewal and the premium has increased to $995 and this is for liability > and not in motion only coverage. This is about what I paid the first year, > but last year it was about $100 or so lower and was hoping it would > decrease again this year instead of increasing. Quotes on full coverage > the previous years were about $500 more and I haven't asked this year. I > realize that the cost of the premium is affected by a lot of factors such > as where the plane is located/hangar'd, age of pilot (I'm 58), pilot > rating (I'm still a private pilot with current medical), and previous ins > claims (I did have a C172 destroyed inside a hangar during a storm). > Previous to owning the Kitfox I could get ful! > l coverage on a C172 valued at $35k for less than $800/yr and I insured a > Cherokee 140 in 2007 ($30k) for less than $600/yr., so I have been > disapointed at the cost of insuring the Kitfox. I would appreciate knowing > if what I'm presently paying is consistent with what others are paying and > if anyone else has a better deal ??? Thanks, Paul Perry > Kitfox IV Speedster > 912UL/IVO Prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299496#299496 > > >


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    Time: 08:01:56 PM PST US
    From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Insurance Premiums UGH
    Hi Floran=2C I don't know what age you are talking about for raising insurance. I just paid my next years insurance=2C it hasn't changed for 3 years. Model IV 35 =2C000 hull=2C $1120. I will be 74 in a couple months. Clint > From: cliffh@outdrs.net > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Insurance Premiums UGH > Date: Mon=2C 31 May 2010 20:33:00 -0600 > > > I have been insured with Avemco for over 10 years. > I have over 17=2C00 hrs with over 8000 taildragger and 900 hrs in a Kitfo x=2C > and I have never had a claim. > My rates went up the last two years so I called and asked why. They told me > that it was because of my age. When you reach a certain age they automati ly > raise the rates. > > Floran Higgins > Helena=2C Mt > Speedster > 912ULS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "paul perry" <pperryrph@sbcglobal.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday=2C May 31=2C 2010 6:24 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance Premiums UGH > > t> > > > > I have purchased my insurance for the 2 years that I have owned my Kitf ox > > IV Speedster through the EAA program which uses Falcon Ins as the broke r > > and the actual insuring company has been Global. I have a little over 7 00 > > total hrs=2C 100 tailwheel of which about 70 is in the Kitfox. I just r ec'd > > my renewal and the premium has increased to $995 and this is for liabil ity > > and not in motion only coverage. This is about what I paid the first ye ar=2C > > but last year it was about $100 or so lower and was hoping it would > > decrease again this year instead of increasing. Quotes on full coverage > > the previous years were about $500 more and I haven't asked this year. I > > realize that the cost of the premium is affected by a lot of factors su ch > > as where the plane is located/hangar'd=2C age of pilot (I'm 58)=2C pilo t > > rating (I'm still a private pilot with current medical)=2C and previous ins > > claims (I did have a C172 destroyed inside a hangar during a storm). > > Previous to owning the Kitfox I could get ful! > > l coverage on a C172 valued at $35k for less than $800/yr and I insured a > > Cherokee 140 in 2007 ($30k) for less than $600/yr.=2C so I have been > > disapointed at the cost of insuring the Kitfox. I would appreciate know ing > > if what I'm presently paying is consistent with what others are paying and > > if anyone else has a better deal ??? Thanks=2C Paul Perry > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > 912UL/IVO Prop > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299496#299496 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 08:51:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperon tube looseness?
    From: "cschmokel" <cschmokel@gmail.com>
    Thanks guys. Lowell, I think you're right on. I'm going to drill the rivets out and pop in some larger ones. I'll tell you how this happened (I think) .. I had the plane parked facing away from the wind on a really gusty day with the control column locked. I think the buffeting loosened up the flaperon rivets, unfortunately. Hard lesson. Will replacing the rivets require any disassembly? Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299517#299517


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    Time: 10:06:15 PM PST US
    Subject: prop hub questoin
    From: "Cwehner" <1cewehner@cox.net>
    We're about ready to install the GSC 3-bladed prop on our 912 on a KFIV. Is the aluminum backing plate (in the center of the attached photo) used in this installation? thanks CHris KF-IV Oklahoma -------- Chris Wehner Tulsa, Oklahoma Kitfox IV, 912, Final push for completion! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299524#299524 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0874_123.jpg




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