---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/09/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - parting out a 582 (Malcolm Brubaker) 2. 05:13 PM - wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) 3. 05:52 PM - Re: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 (larry huntley) 4. 05:52 PM - Header tank (egp8111) 5. 06:43 PM - Re: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 (Lynn Matteson) 6. 09:06 PM - Re: Header tank (Lowell Fitt) 7. 09:07 PM - Re: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:56 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Kitfox-List: parting out a 582 =0AI have a 582 gray head w/ e box- hrs-unnown- I am parting out plea se call for moor info mal-Malcolm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repa ir =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)513-3022 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________ __________=0AFrom: Jeffrey Dill <1dillfamily@comcast.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list @matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, June 8, 2010 8:20:10 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: dillfamily@comcast.net>=0A=0AThanks guys for the help. It was just like bot h of you said. A new bulb type primer allowed fuel to flow when not actuati ng the primer, just like the worn out plunger type. A replacement plunger t ype did the trick. Something worth noting which you guys may already know. I think the added fuel into my carburetors from the old primer caused a dro p in my idle speed. That was the whole reason I opened the hood in the firs t place; on my first flight of the season, my idle was down well below 2000 .=0AI had turned each idle stop up one quarter turn before I noticed the ga s leaking out of one carb. Today, with the plunger type new primer installe d and working properly, I warmed up the engine to check the idle and, sure enough, I had to turn back the idle stops to where they were before to redu ce the idle back to 2000.=0A=0A--------=0AJeff Dill=0AModel 2=0A=0A=0A=0A =0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic. ====0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:56 PM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 Hi all=2C When I got my unfinished Kitfox 4 kit=2C it had wood ribs glued in on the horizontal stabalizer=2C and not on the rudder or elevator. I se e in the manual that they can be added to the rudder=2C verticle stabilizer =2C and elevator also. No other wood ribs came with my kit to do the rest of the tailfeathers=2C and I'm wondering if I should make some up and put t hem in or not. The earlier Kitfoxes and Avids didn't use them=2C and I'm w ondering how much of an improvement they are. I have the wings covered and ready to spray (after I iron the edges of the finishing tapes) and am read y to start the tailfeathers or fusaloge next. I took a year off to do some other things=2C but got back to work about 1 1/2 months ago. I got the wi ngs covered in that time=2C working on and off about 80 hrs in that month a nd a half. At least now I'm making progress again. Take care all=2C Jim Chuk Mn Avids=2C Kitfox 4 (building) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:14 PM PST US From: "larry huntley" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 Jim, I made ribs for the HS and elevators on my 4-1200. Don't know if they did any good ,but I like them for whatever reason. I believe they do no harm. Larry Huntley 4-1200 EA-81 Soob, 550 hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk To: kitfox list Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:12 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 Hi all, When I got my unfinished Kitfox 4 kit, it had wood ribs glued in on the horizontal stabalizer, and not on the rudder or elevator. I see in the manual that they can be added to the rudder, verticle stabilizer, and elevator also. No other wood ribs came with my kit to do the rest of the tailfeathers, and I'm wondering if I should make some up and put them in or not. The earlier Kitfoxes and Avids didn't use them, and I'm wondering how much of an improvement they are. I have the wings covered and ready to spray (after I iron the edges of the finishing tapes) and am ready to start the tailfeathers or fusaloge next. I took a year off to do some other things, but got back to work about 1 1/2 months ago. I got the wings covered in that time, working on and off about 80 hrs in that month and a half. At least now I'm making progress again. Take care all, Jim Chuk Mn Avids, Kitfox 4 (building) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/09/10 02:35:00 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:41 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Header tank From: "egp8111" I'm installing the header tank(the one that looks like a big oatmeal box) option on a KFIII. The trouble is when I try to put it where it is shown in the plans the flap actuator hits it when the flap handle is pulled full up. I'm wondering if this is past the normal range of the flaps and is OK or am I missing something in the instructions. Anyone else had this issue ? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300770#300770 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:14 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 Jim- When I first got on this list, folks told me that if the vertical was left '"skinny" it would "hunt"...that is, the tail would move from side to side as the air pressure tried to equalize on either side of the vertical. Others said they had skinny tails and they didn't notice it. My unfinished plane came with the hort. stab and elevator airfoiled, so I elected to do the vertical and rudder as well. I haven't regretted that move. A bit of work....making your own ribs....but it was fun, and I learned a lot. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 968.8 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Countdown to 1000 hrs~31.2 to go(47 days to go) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote: > Hi all, When I got my unfinished Kitfox 4 kit, it had wood ribs > glued in on the horizontal stabalizer, and not on the rudder or > elevator. I see in the manual that they can be added to the > rudder, verticle stabilizer, and elevator also. No other wood ribs > came with my kit to do the rest of the tailfeathers, and I'm > wondering if I should make some up and put them in or not. The > earlier Kitfoxes and Avids didn't use them, and I'm wondering how > much of an improvement they are. I have the wings covered and > ready to spray (after I iron the edges of the finishing tapes) and > am ready to start the tailfeathers or fusaloge next. I took a year > off to do some other things, but got back to work about 1 1/2 > months ago. I got the wings covered in that time, working on and > off about 80 hrs in that month and a half. At least now I'm making > progress again. Take care all, Jim Chuk Mn > Avids, Kitfox 4 (building) > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more > from your inbox. See how._- > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:42 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank Take this for what it is worth, having seen a III or two in my life, but never owned one. With, the IV, it is common practice to put a stop in the flaperon handle travel to limit it's travel. Too much flaperon tends to make the aileron effect very sluggish at slow speeds. I suspect full travel is more than you will use in practice. Experts will likely respond later. Lowell Model IV project with the engine installed via the new mount today. -------------------------------------------------- From: "egp8111" Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Header tank > > I'm installing the header tank(the one that looks like a big oatmeal box) > option on a KFIII. The trouble is when I try to put it where it is shown > in the plans the flap actuator hits it when the flap handle is pulled full > up. I'm wondering if this is past the normal range of the flaps and is OK > or am I missing something in the instructions. Anyone else had this > issue ? > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300770#300770 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:49 PM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 Thanks Lynn and Larry for the replys. I guess I should have mentioned that my kit is a Kitfox 4 Classic 1200. Did a little more looking in the manua l=2C and it seems that the wood ribs on the rudder and such were for the Sp eedster model. Not sure why mine has the ribs on the horizontal stabalizer though??? Anyone else have an opinion? Thanks=2C Jim Chuk=2C Avids=2C Kitfox 4 building > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wood ribs on tailfeathers on a Kitfox 4 > Date: Wed=2C 9 Jun 2010 21:36:50 -0400 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Jim- > > When I first got on this list=2C folks told me that if the vertical was > left '"skinny" it would "hunt"...that is=2C the tail would move from > side to side as the air pressure tried to equalize on either side of > the vertical. Others said they had skinny tails and they didn't > notice it. My unfinished plane came with the hort. stab and elevator > airfoiled=2C so I elected to do the vertical and rudder as well. I > haven't regretted that move. A bit of work....making your own > ribs....but it was fun=2C and I learned a lot. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 968.8 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > Countdown to 1000 hrs~31.2 to go(47 days to go) > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > On Jun 9=2C 2010=2C at 8:12 PM=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote: > > > Hi all=2C When I got my unfinished Kitfox 4 kit=2C it had wood ribs > > glued in on the horizontal stabalizer=2C and not on the rudder or > > elevator. I see in the manual that they can be added to the > > rudder=2C verticle stabilizer=2C and elevator also. No other wood ribs > > came with my kit to do the rest of the tailfeathers=2C and I'm > > wondering if I should make some up and put them in or not. The > > earlier Kitfoxes and Avids didn't use them=2C and I'm wondering how > > much of an improvement they are. I have the wings covered and > > ready to spray (after I iron the edges of the finishing tapes) and > > am ready to start the tailfeathers or fusaloge next. I took a year > > off to do some other things=2C but got back to work about 1 1/2 > > months ago. I got the wings covered in that time=2C working on and > > off about 80 hrs in that month and a half. At least now I'm making > > progress again. Take care all=2C Jim Chuk Mn > > Avids=2C Kitfox 4 (building) > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more > > ======================= > > ======================= > > ======================= > > ======================= =========== > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. 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