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1. 06:19 AM - bolt size needed please! (rical)
2. 07:13 AM - Re: bolt size needed please! (Tom Jones)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: bolt size needed please! (Lowell Fitt)
4. 07:30 AM - Re: bolt size needed please! (dholly)
5. 09:50 AM - water temps revisited (malpass)
6. 11:18 AM - Re: water temps revisited (fox5flyer)
7. 01:58 PM - Re: water temps revisited (malpass)
8. 02:52 PM - Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
9. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
10. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: 1,000 Hrs. (Noel Loveys)
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| Subject: | bolt size needed please! |
Hi all, need help please!!
I'm looking for the bolt size that attach the wing strut to the
fuselage and the bolt size for the tailwheel (bolt that attach wheel
assembly to the spring)
Is it in the construction book?
Thanks!
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: bolt size needed please! |
>From the Classic 4 Assembly Manual, What Model Kit fox is yours. I don't know
if different models may use different bolts or not.
Parts List, Classic 4 Wing Kit
Lift Strut to fuselage--Bolt--AN6-11
Nut--AN310-6
Washers--AN960-616 and AN969-616L
Pins--AN380-3-3
The tail wheel to spring bolt is an AN7 and the length depends on what tail wheel
and how many spring leaves it goes through. Mine is a Maule tail wheel and
the bolt goes through one spring leaf. That bolt is an AN7-11. The nut is an
AN310-7
Here's an AN bolt size chart if you need one.
http://exp-aircraft.com/library/alexande/hardfig2.html
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: bolt size needed please! |
Richard,
The Model IV manual calls for a AN6-11 bolt at the bottom of the lift strut
and a AN5-20 for the tail wheel spring to fuselage attachment. The length
will vary depending on the number of tail spring leafs. The one mentioned
is for two leafs.
Lowell
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From: "rical" <rical26@rogers.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:17 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: bolt size needed please!
>
> Hi all, need help please!!
> I'm looking for the bolt size that attach the wing strut to the fuselage
> and the bolt size for the tailwheel (bolt that attach wheel assembly to
> the spring)
> Is it in the construction book?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: bolt size needed please! |
I just replaced them on a M-III.
M-III Tail spring to Fuse: AN5-16 Bolt, AN310-5 Castle Nut, AN960-516 Washer, AN380-2-2
Cotter Pin (new p/n MS24665-132)
M-III Lift Strut to Fuse: AN6-11 Bolt, AN310-6 Castle Nut, AN960-616 Washer, AN380-3-3
Cotter Pin (new p/n MS24665-283)
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-Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
-Airdale Avid+ Jab2200 W.I.B. project
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| Subject: | water temps revisited |
I took the advise of the Kitfox group and purchased the marine thermostat from
NAPA made by sierra 18-3670. It is a 160 degree, and looks identical to the Kitfox
one. $25 bucks beats what Rotax wants for one.
There does seem to be on small difference and I want to know if it makes a difference.
The original t-stat has 2 very small ovals that are spaced close together
and they each are the size of about 1/32". They reside right at the inner
edge of the rubber gasket ring and it seems they will allow a small amount of
water to bypass when the t-stat is closed. The new t-stat does not have these.
Us guys have got to be obviously anal about these issues as landing safely is paramount.
Am I overly concerned about this?
Bill Malpass, Marietta GA
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kitfox III w/ 582 greyhead
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| Subject: | Re: water temps revisited |
You need to drill them yourself.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "malpass" <malpass-architect@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: water temps revisited
>
> I took the advise of the Kitfox group and purchased the marine thermostat
> from NAPA made by sierra 18-3670. It is a 160 degree, and looks identical
> to the Kitfox one. $25 bucks beats what Rotax wants for one.
>
> There does seem to be on small difference and I want to know if it makes a
> difference. The original t-stat has 2 very small ovals that are spaced
> close together and they each are the size of about 1/32". They reside
> right at the inner edge of the rubber gasket ring and it seems they will
> allow a small amount of water to bypass when the t-stat is closed. The
> new t-stat does not have these.
>
> Us guys have got to be obviously anal about these issues as landing safely
> is paramount.
>
> Am I overly concerned about this?
>
> Bill Malpass, Marietta GA
>
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> kitfox III w/ 582 greyhead
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304411#304411
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>
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02:36:00
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| Subject: | Re: water temps revisited |
Thanks for the response and help. Seems these holes in the t-stat are required
for the rotax application?
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kitfox III w/ 582 greyhead
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| Subject: | Removing ethanol from gasoline |
I'm all in favour of experimenting when it's done safely. What you have
going for you is the fact that boaters have been doing this for years and
you are doing your own experimentation in little steps. I don't think you
will have any problems. Other than the fact you will be throwing away 10%
of your fuel...maybe.
Speaking about disposing of the ethanol water mix. If you are going to sell
it as fuel you will need to remove the water from it. This is done by
distilling. I think to 180F... Been a long time since I studied that in
high school. I do remember there is a big break where the ethanol stops
running from the still before distilled water starts to run. If you have a
candy thermometer in your mash ( the stuff your're distiooing you will see
at a specific point the alcohol will stop flowing and then somewhere just
below 212F you will see water flow.
Just thinking out loud here but if you have one of those flex fuel vehicles
which are specifically tuned to run E 85 then you can always put your
distilled hooch in the new bucket of bolts. Sorry to say they put something
into the ethanol so you can't distill it to make some fine bourbon or the
like.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Christensen
Sent: July 8, 2010 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Removing ethanol from gasoline
<pchristensen10@austin.rr.com>
Thanks Noel. You are one who knows the meaning of experimental aircraft.
My 912 being older and of lower compression requires only 86 octane. I plan
to burn only "cleaned" gasoline if it works out. Maybe I can modify the
home heating unit to burn ethanol in the winter or sell it to model airplane
guys.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
> Pete it sounds to me like you are doing things properly. The next step
> would be to reduce the amount of AVGAS in your mix just in case your
> engine
> can't take the lower octane level fuel. Being the CR of the Rotax engines
> isn't extreme I doubt you will have any problems.
>
> BTW distil our leftover water alcohol mix to around 50C for fuel for your
> fondu warmer or camp stove. Other leftovers will probably make good weed
> killer and is bio degradeable.
>
> Noel
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| Subject: | Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline |
True 10% Ethanol won't hurt the 912 (in the TBO). However there are other
considerations to take into mind; the material the tanks and lines are made
of are a couple. There are others that I don't want to get into here.
Sorry guys but I think booze should be kept at the bar and used only after
there is weight on wheels.... or floats as the case may be. I know many of
us have to, or feel they have to fly on ethanol lace fuel. If you are one
of those people then try to do so as safely as possible.
Never leave fuel in your plane for extended periods of time. After a flight
drain the fuel into your car so you will always have the freshest fuel
available in your plane. Keep a look out for fuel discolouration. Always
keep up on you emergency procedures ( that should be done anyway).
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
Sent: July 8, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
Hi Pete,
If you are running a 912 series engine then Rotax has in writing that 10%
ethanol is fine and people use much higher amounts than that around the
world. Just bring your fuel system up to par for the ethanol and save
yourself a lot of time and effort. Ethanol won't hurt your 912 Rotax.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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Never mind the boat wake... My dad hit his own wake doing a 360 takeoff in
a VJ-22 Sportsman in a harbour. The smell was with him for over 2000 miles.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Missler
Sent: July 9, 2010 12:29 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 1,000 Hrs.
Lynn; Water flying can be a lot of fun but as you say can be hard on your
A/C. I learned a few things the hard way in the Lake Amphibian I owned way
back when. One, is when ready for take off it is hard to see boat wake, easy
to spot from the air though. Cost of passenger insurance was the reason I
sold it.
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Jim Missler, Kitfox 3, Jabiru 2200, Prince P Tip Prop 64-28, Just plane fun.
Bellevue, Ohio
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