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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (Weiss Richard)
2. 01:05 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10 (cygan@optusnet.com.au)
3. 03:23 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10 (lane taylor)
4. 04:23 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10 (John W. Hart)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
6. 03:24 PM - Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (Patrick Reilly)
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
Chris,
I had the same problem. I made some blocks from wood and duct taped
them to the bottom of the pedal for testing. They're about 1" square
and so far, they keep my size 13's off the top of the pedals. I still
have some testing to do to be sure I'm not dragging a brake
inadvertently. Once I'm sure they're the right size I plan to remake
the blocks out of aluminum and bolt them in place.
I know of another Kitfox builder who did the same thing and it did the
trick.
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
SkyStar S/N 1
Port Orange, FL
On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:46 PM, carlisle wrote:
>
> Ever since I saw a friend's picture of him flying a Bell 47
helicopter, shot up through the glass bubble, with his bare toes wrapped
around the anti-torque pedals, I've wanted to fly my Kitfox that way.
>
> Well, I did it today and learned a lesson. No matter how conscious
you think you are of keeping your toes off the brakes during landing,
they're not. So all that weaving around that I do, especially when
landing on pavement (and a couple of ground loops) now makes more sense
to me. I think I should adjust the brake pedals (standard Matco on my
Model II) so that they are well clear of my toes unless I make a
concerted effort 'enpointe' to actuate them.
>
> Anyone have any magic tricks?
>
> Chris
> Model II, 582
> Sioux Falls, SD
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304626#304626
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10 |
Does anyone have a copy of a blank bill of sale to sell a Kitfox.
Thanks -- cygan.cy@gmail.com
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> 1. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
> 2. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
> (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
> 3. 08:47 PM - Barefoot on the Brakes (carlisle)
>
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> Time: 07:43:56 AM PST US
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
> automotive hoses
> don't allow that. Personally I agree with you.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
> Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
> for many many years just like the auto people do.
> Paul
> ======
> >
> >I also have a little beef with the word
> >resistant No one has been able to give me
> >any definition for it in this
> >context. Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great idea.
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:24:49 AM PST US
> From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Paul- If I were flying an automobile, I;d buy those hoses and keep them
> for
> years.=C2- 2 bucks a foot to change hoses ever year or two is very
> cheap
> insurance. I haven't yet found a curb to pull up next to on the skyway
> if
> I=C2-have a problem. I use the old Motorcycle adage, "if you got a cheap
>
> head-buy a cheap helmet".-Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:39:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
> automotive
> hoses don't allow that. =C2-Personally I agree with you.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
> er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
> =C2-=C2-Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
> for many many years just like the auto people do.
> Paul
> ========
> >
> >I also have a little beef with the word
> >=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93resistant=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D No one has been able t
> o give me
> >any definition for it in this
> >context.=C3=82 =C2-Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great
> ide
> a.
> >
>
>
> ===========
> ===========
> MS -
> ===========
> e -
> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> ===========
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 08:47:28 PM PST US
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Barefoot on the Brakes
> From: "carlisle" <carlisle_99@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Ever since I saw a friend's picture of him flying a Bell 47 helicopter,
> shot up
> through the glass bubble, with his bare toes wrapped around the
> anti-torque pedals,
> I've wanted to fly my Kitfox that way.
>
> Well, I did it today and learned a lesson. No matter how conscious you
> think you
> are of keeping your toes off the brakes during landing, they're not. So
> all
> that weaving around that I do, especially when landing on pavement (and
> a couple
> of ground loops) now makes more sense to me. I think I should adjust
> the
> brake pedals (standard Matco on my Model II) so that they are well clear
> of my
> toes unless I make a concerted effort 'enpointe' to actuate them.
>
> Anyone have any magic tricks?
>
> Chris
> Model II, 582
> Sioux Falls, SD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304626#304626
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10 |
Contact your FSDO or FAA. They'll send you one or more for free.
----- Original Message -----
From: <cygan@optusnet.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:47 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10
>
> Does anyone have a copy of a blank bill of sale to sell a Kitfox.
> Thanks -- cygan.cy@gmail.com
>
>
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>> 1. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
>> 2. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>> (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
>> 3. 08:47 PM - Barefoot on the Brakes (carlisle)
>>
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>> _____________________________________
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>> Time: 07:43:56 AM PST US
>> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>>
>>
>> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
>> automotive hoses
>> don't allow that. Personally I agree with you.
>>
>> Noel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
>> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>>
>>
>> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
>> Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
>> for many many years just like the auto people do.
>> Paul
>> ======
>> >
>> >I also have a little beef with the word
>> >resistant No one has been able to give me
>> >any definition for it in this
>> >context. Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great idea.
>> >
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:24:49 AM PST US
>> From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>>
>>
>> Paul- If I were flying an automobile, I;d buy those hoses and keep them
>> for
>> years.=C2- 2 bucks a foot to change hoses ever year or two is very
>> cheap
>> insurance. I haven't yet found a curb to pull up next to on the skyway
>> if
>> I=C2-have a problem. I use the old Motorcycle adage, "if you got a cheap
>>
>> head-buy a cheap helmet".-Tom
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:39:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>>
>>
>> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
>> automotive
>> hoses don't allow that. =C2-Personally I agree with you.
>>
>> Noel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
>> er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
>> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>>
>>
>> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
>> =C2-=C2-Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
>> for many many years just like the auto people do.
>> Paul
>> =======
>> >
>> >I also have a little beef with the word
>> >=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93resistant=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D No one has been able t
>> o give me
>> >any definition for it in this
>> >context.=C3=82 =C2-Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great
>> ide
>> a.
>> >
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> ==========
>> MS -
>> ==========
>> e -
>> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> ==========
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:47:28 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Barefoot on the Brakes
>> From: "carlisle" <carlisle_99@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>> Ever since I saw a friend's picture of him flying a Bell 47 helicopter,
>> shot up
>> through the glass bubble, with his bare toes wrapped around the
>> anti-torque pedals,
>> I've wanted to fly my Kitfox that way.
>>
>> Well, I did it today and learned a lesson. No matter how conscious you
>> think you
>> are of keeping your toes off the brakes during landing, they're not. So
>> all
>> that weaving around that I do, especially when landing on pavement (and
>> a couple
>> of ground loops) now makes more sense to me. I think I should adjust
>> the
>> brake pedals (standard Matco on my Model II) so that they are well clear
>> of my
>> toes unless I make a concerted effort 'enpointe' to actuate them.
>>
>> Anyone have any magic tricks?
>>
>> Chris
>> Model II, 582
>> Sioux Falls, SD
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304626#304626
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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The form is available online at :
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/form/ac8050-2.pdf
Copy in .pdf format attached. Don't know if it will go thru the server or
not.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cygan@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:48 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/12/10
Does anyone have a copy of a blank bill of sale to sell a Kitfox.
Thanks -- cygan.cy@gmail.com
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>
> 1. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Noel Loveys)
> 2. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
> (ctmcdowell@comcast.net)
> 3. 08:47 PM - Barefoot on the Brakes (carlisle)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:43:56 AM PST US
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
> automotive hoses
> don't allow that. Personally I agree with you.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
> Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
> for many many years just like the auto people do.
> Paul
> ======
> >
> >I also have a little beef with the word
> >resistant No one has been able to give me
> >any definition for it in this
> >context. Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great idea.
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:24:49 AM PST US
> From: ctmcdowell@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Paul- If I were flying an automobile, I;d buy those hoses and keep them
> for
> years.=C2- 2 bucks a foot to change hoses ever year or two is very
> cheap
> insurance. I haven't yet found a curb to pull up next to on the skyway
> if
> I=C2-have a problem. I use the old Motorcycle adage, "if you got a cheap
>
> head-buy a cheap helmet".-Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:39:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
> automotive
> hoses don't allow that. =C2-Personally I agree with you.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
> er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
> Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
>
>
> Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
> =C2-=C2-Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
> for many many years just like the auto people do.
> Paul
> ========
> >
> >I also have a little beef with the word
> >=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93resistant=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D No one has been able t
> o give me
> >any definition for it in this
> >context.=C3=82 =C2-Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great
> ide
> a.
> >
>
>
> ===========
> ===========
> MS -
> ===========
> e -
> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> ===========
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:47:28 PM PST US
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Barefoot on the Brakes
> From: "carlisle" <carlisle_99@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Ever since I saw a friend's picture of him flying a Bell 47 helicopter,
> shot up
> through the glass bubble, with his bare toes wrapped around the
> anti-torque pedals,
> I've wanted to fly my Kitfox that way.
>
> Well, I did it today and learned a lesson. No matter how conscious you
> think you
> are of keeping your toes off the brakes during landing, they're not. So
> all
> that weaving around that I do, especially when landing on pavement (and
> a couple
> of ground loops) now makes more sense to me. I think I should adjust
> the
> brake pedals (standard Matco on my Model II) so that they are well clear
> of my
> toes unless I make a concerted effort 'enpointe' to actuate them.
>
> Anyone have any magic tricks?
>
> Chris
> Model II, 582
> Sioux Falls, SD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304626#304626
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline |
Just because you don=99t change the hose every year
doesn=99t mean they don=99t get inspected every 25 hours or
so of flight. Why is it certified planes don=99t use clear tubes?
I agree with clear tubing in some cases like the impulse line a clear
tube will show you if oil is getting up behind the pump... it will also
let you see if there is any perforation in the diaphragm. I have it on
my plane but mostly just because it was there and it=99s still not
hard. Actually I only have tubing between aluminium tubes and in the
engine compartment from the pump to the carbs.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ctmcdowell@comcast.net
Sent: July 12, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
Paul- If I were flying an automobile, I;d buy those hoses and keep them
for years. 2 bucks a foot to change hoses ever year or two is very
cheap insurance. I haven't yet found a curb to pull up next to on the
skyway if I have a problem. I use the old Motorcycle adage, "if you got
a cheap head-buy a cheap helmet".-Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:39:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
Some guys want to be able to see the fuel in their lines and the
automotive hoses don't allow that. Personally I agree with you.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul wilson
Sent: July 11, 2010 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline
Alky resistant hose is defined as automotive hose SAE R7 or R9.
Use the stuff and forget about changing hose
for many many years just like the auto people do.
Paul
=======
>
>I also have a little beef with the word
>=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93resistant=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D No one has been
able to give me
>any definition for it in this
>context.=C3=82 Changing the tubes every year sounds like a great
ideabsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
===
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
Chris, I took my brake levers off, put a tourch on them and bent them
forward at least an inch just above the rod tab. I still have trouble
keeping my toes off of them! It would be easier if the rudder pedals were
longer. I have a size 10 foot. I think a size 6 would be about right.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 REBUILT
Rockford, IL
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:46 PM, carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ever since I saw a friend's picture of him flying a Bell 47 helicopter,
> shot up through the glass bubble, with his bare toes wrapped around the
> anti-torque pedals, I've wanted to fly my Kitfox that way.
>
> Well, I did it today and learned a lesson. No matter how conscious you
> think you are of keeping your toes off the brakes during landing, they're
> not. So all that weaving around that I do, especially when landing on
> pavement (and a couple of ground loops) now makes more sense to me. I think
> I should adjust the brake pedals (standard Matco on my Model II) so that
> they are well clear of my toes unless I make a concerted effort 'enpointe'
> to actuate them.
>
> Anyone have any magic tricks?
>
> Chris
> Model II, 582
> Sioux Falls, SD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304626#304626
>
>
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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