---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/15/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:08 AM - Flying with the doors off (Catz631@aol.com) 2. 10:06 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (bjones@dmv.com) 3. 11:23 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Lynn Matteson) 4. 05:29 PM - 912 install (egp8111) 5. 07:04 PM - Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (Paul Morel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:42 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off That last message about flying with the doors off interests me. It runs about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to fly without my doors however the area right below my turtle deck is uncovered(no interior fabric) I thought about having a piece made up with velcro hold downs to cover that area so air would not come in the doors go back in there causing drag and pressurising the aft fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ? How about pressure on the turtledeck itself ? Dick Maddux Fox 4 Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off From: bjones@dmv.com My model IV is open from the seats to the tail except for a small baggage "sack behind the seats. In 400 plus hours (probably more than half with either both doors or just the pilot's door off), the only problem I have noticed is some buffet of the small "triagular" windows on the sides behind the doors. The original window material had become somewhat brittle with age and developed cracks. I replaced both with new from Kitfox. They seem to be doing well. I tried a custom made window that apparently had the wrong clear material and it failed quickly. I normally fly relatively low and slow. I suspect if I powered up I would see maybe 10 knot slower cruise, not sure. I have not been surprised by any handling problems with the doors off. Mic on headset breaks squelch a lot with doors off, even if I reposition the boom up and out of the way. My communications probably have a fair amount of background wind noise on the other end, although no one has mentioned it. I carry charts folded to show the area that I'm flying in but have to keep them held down on the passengers seat with a camera gear and PLB bag. I suspect trying to open or unfold them would be difficult (an understatement.) Passengers seem to feel safer with the passenger side door in place. Photography is great without door "glass" and framework in the way. Anyone with other thoughts on the matter, please chime in. I'm Curious. Bj N154K > about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to fly without > my > doors however the area right below my turtle deck is uncovered(no interior > fabric) I thought about having a piece made up with velcro hold downs to > cover > that area so air would not come in the doors go back in there causing drag > and pressurising the aft fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ? > How about pressure on the turtledeck itself ? > Dick Maddux > Fox 4 > Milton,Fl > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:28 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off I made a cover...called a "tonneau cover" back in the hot rodding days (it covered the open deck of pickups, and the open cockpit of roadsters)...to keep the cold air from the fuselage from chilling the back of my neck in the winter. I velcroed it to the top of the seat back, and the rest of it is held in place by the turtledeck. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1007.1 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus... On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > That last message about flying with the doors off interests me. It > runs about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to > fly without my doors however the area right below my turtle deck is > uncovered(no interior fabric) I thought about having a piece made > up with velcro hold downs to cover that area so air would not come > in the doors go back in there causing drag and pressurising the aft > fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ? How about pressure > on the turtledeck itself ? > Dick Maddux > Fox 4 > Milton,Fl > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:33 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 install From: "egp8111" I'm replacing a 582 with a 912ul in a KFIII. If anyone has any miscelaneous parts or insturments (mount, radiator, exchaust parts etc.) that would fit and they would like to sell please drop me a note. thanks, EG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305008#305008 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:48 PM PST US From: "Paul Morel" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Removing ethanol from gasoline I've been beating myself up trying to locate ethanol-free auto fuel and found there were several providers close enough for me to take a drive to buy some. I'm sure most of you have seen this site before, but it is new to me. Please add to it for new locations of ethanol-free fuel in case others are looking too. http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp Paul Morel 912 Speedster Locust Grove, GA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.