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1. 03:10 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (larry huntley)
2. 03:46 PM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Noel Loveys)
3. 08:14 PM - Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (carlisle)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
Slips are to shut the doors. ;o) Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
>
> I fly doors on because I really don't like to get wet on landings...
> Floats... But I do open the doors for picture taking. Just make sure all
> turns are well coordinated and slips are a definite no-no.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> bjones@dmv.com
> Sent: July 15, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
>
>
> My model IV is open from the seats to the tail except for a small baggage
> "sack behind the seats.
>
> In 400 plus hours (probably more than half with either both doors or just
> the pilot's door off), the only problem I have noticed is some buffet of
> the small "triagular" windows on the sides behind the doors. The original
> window material had become somewhat brittle with age and developed cracks.
> I replaced both with new from Kitfox. They seem to be doing well. I tried
> a custom made window that apparently had the wrong clear material and it
> failed quickly.
>
> I normally fly relatively low and slow. I suspect if I powered up I would
> see maybe 10 knot slower cruise, not sure. I have not been surprised by
> any handling problems with the doors off.
>
> Mic on headset breaks squelch a lot with doors off, even if I reposition
> the boom up and out of the way. My communications probably have a fair
> amount of background wind noise on the other end, although no one has
> mentioned it.
>
> I carry charts folded to show the area that I'm flying in but have to keep
> them held down on the passengers seat with a camera gear and PLB bag. I
> suspect trying to open or unfold them would be difficult (an
> understatement.)
>
> Passengers seem to feel safer with the passenger side door in place.
>
> Photography is great without door "glass" and framework in the way.
>
> Anyone with other thoughts on the matter, please chime in. I'm Curious.
>
> Bj
> N154K
>
>
>> about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to fly
>> without
>> my
>> doors however the area right below my turtle deck is uncovered(no
>> interior
>> fabric) I thought about having a piece made up with velcro hold downs to
>> cover
>> that area so air would not come in the doors go back in there causing
>> drag
>> and pressurising the aft fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ?
>> How about pressure on the turtledeck itself ?
>> Dick Maddux
>> Fox 4
>> Milton,Fl
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flying with the doors off |
In a slammin' big way!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of larry huntley
Sent: July 17, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
Slips are to shut the doors. ;o) Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
>
> I fly doors on because I really don't like to get wet on landings...
> Floats... But I do open the doors for picture taking. Just make sure all
> turns are well coordinated and slips are a definite no-no.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> bjones@dmv.com
> Sent: July 15, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
>
>
> My model IV is open from the seats to the tail except for a small baggage
> "sack behind the seats.
>
> In 400 plus hours (probably more than half with either both doors or just
> the pilot's door off), the only problem I have noticed is some buffet of
> the small "triagular" windows on the sides behind the doors. The original
> window material had become somewhat brittle with age and developed cracks.
> I replaced both with new from Kitfox. They seem to be doing well. I tried
> a custom made window that apparently had the wrong clear material and it
> failed quickly.
>
> I normally fly relatively low and slow. I suspect if I powered up I would
> see maybe 10 knot slower cruise, not sure. I have not been surprised by
> any handling problems with the doors off.
>
> Mic on headset breaks squelch a lot with doors off, even if I reposition
> the boom up and out of the way. My communications probably have a fair
> amount of background wind noise on the other end, although no one has
> mentioned it.
>
> I carry charts folded to show the area that I'm flying in but have to keep
> them held down on the passengers seat with a camera gear and PLB bag. I
> suspect trying to open or unfold them would be difficult (an
> understatement.)
>
> Passengers seem to feel safer with the passenger side door in place.
>
> Photography is great without door "glass" and framework in the way.
>
> Anyone with other thoughts on the matter, please chime in. I'm Curious.
>
> Bj
> N154K
>
>
>> about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to fly
>> without
>> my
>> doors however the area right below my turtle deck is uncovered(no
>> interior
>> fabric) I thought about having a piece made up with velcro hold downs to
>> cover
>> that area so air would not come in the doors go back in there causing
>> drag
>> and pressurising the aft fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ?
>> How about pressure on the turtledeck itself ?
>> Dick Maddux
>> Fox 4
>> Milton,Fl
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
Ended up just taking the plunger rods out of the Matco cylinders on each pedal
and cutting them off about an inch at the top, then re-threading them so that
the fitting that bolts onto the pedal is quite a bit lower now. That way the
pedal sits forward of my toes so that I have to make a conscious effort to extend
my ankles enough to reach them. Probably won't be making any of those lovely
pirouetting turns onto the apron in front of my hanger after a flight but
also won't feel like I'm pirouetting all over the runway on landing either.
Chris
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