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1. 06:00 AM - mod 4 flaperon (Malcolm Brubaker)
2. 09:06 AM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Cudnohufsky's)
3. 10:02 AM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Lynn Matteson)
4. 11:36 AM - Re: matco wheels (jridgway)
5. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Model II Weight and Balance (Noel Loveys)
6. 02:50 PM - Re: Model II Weight and Balance (dave)
7. 03:31 PM - Re: matco wheels (Mnflyer)
8. 05:16 PM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Av8r3400)
9. 05:21 PM - Lynn's engine (Mike Chaney)
10. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: matco wheels (bob noffs)
11. 07:38 PM - Re: matco wheels (Mnflyer)
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I am looking for the hardware for a mod4 flaperon- please contact me off
list- =0A-- and- do not arcive--- mal=0A-Malcolm Brubaker
=0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)513-3022 =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@j
ps.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:19:0
8 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners=0A=0A--> Kitfo
x-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>=0A=0A=0ALloyd-
=0AI was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and another
'fox =0Awere 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row in front of
me. This was =0Athe area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp every year. T
hen there was Rex =0APhelps and another 'fox from Michigan (can't recall hi
s name) in their usual =0Aspot right next to the Homebuilders Headquarters,
and of course the absolutely =0Agorgeous new Rotec-radial-powered Super Sp
ort flown to the show by Debra and =0AJohn, and two others as I recall. I'm
sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a =0AKitfox on floats near the Kitfox d
isplay.=0A=0ALynn Matteson=0AKitfox IV Speedster, taildragger=0AJabiru 2200
, #2062=0ASensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)=0AElectroair direct-fire ignition
system=0ARotec TBI-40 injection=0AStatus: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-20
06)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:=0A
t>=0A> =0A> Lynn,=0A> Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory"
I'm sure you still had=0A> a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish
I had my Outback up and=0A> flying, would have loved to joined the race.
- A friend and I found ourselves=0A> tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one y
ear waiting out a storm on our way into=0A> Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO th
ere had a nice set of couches for us to wait=0A> out the storm on.=0A> I ma
de it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by the=0A> Kitf
ox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from him on=0A> t
he finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much, seemed=0A>
pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on. Tried to=0A
> find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt Headquarter
s,=0A> normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately thi
s year=0A> with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry s
pot and had=0A> no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra li
te field, a 4 and=0A> a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show
, checked out the=0A> Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next y
ear.=0A> =0A> =0A> Lloyd Cudnohufsky=0A> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA=0A> Northern
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | AirVenture Cup Race Winners |
Thanks Lynn,
With that many around I'm not sure how I missed them, were they all still
there on Friday? I did see the 3 at the Kitfox Booth including the Radial,
and you are correct, it was an absolutely gorgeous bird as were the others
on display there by John and Debra.
Lloyd
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners
Lloyd-
I was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and
another 'fox were 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row
in front of me. This was the area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp
every year. Then there was Rex Phelps and another 'fox from Michigan
(can't recall his name) in their usual spot right next to the
Homebuilders Headquarters, and of course the absolutely gorgeous new
Rotec-radial-powered Super Sport flown to the show by Debra and John,
and two others as I recall. I'm sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a
Kitfox on floats near the Kitfox display.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
> <7suds@chartermi.net>
>
> Lynn,
> Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory" I'm sure you
> still had
> a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish I had my Outback
> up and
> flying, would have loved to joined the race. A friend and I found
> ourselves
> tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one year waiting out a storm on our
> way into
> Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO there had a nice set of couches for us
> to wait
> out the storm on.
> I made it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by the
> Kitfox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from
> him on
> the finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much,
> seemed
> pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on.
> Tried to
> find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt
> Headquarters,
> normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately
> this year
> with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot
> and had
> no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite
> field, a 4 and
> a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out the
> Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year.
>
>
> Lloyd Cudnohufsky
> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA
> Northern Mi.
>
>
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
01:35:00
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| Subject: | Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners |
I'm not sure about Friday, Lloyd, but Thursday morning they were
still there.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
do not archive
On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
> <7suds@chartermi.net>
>
> Thanks Lynn,
> With that many around I'm not sure how I missed them, were they all
> still
> there on Friday? I did see the 3 at the Kitfox Booth including the
> Radial,
> and you are correct, it was an absolutely gorgeous bird as were the
> others
> on display there by John and Debra.
>
> Lloyd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:19 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners
>
>
>
> Lloyd-
> I was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and
> another 'fox were 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row
> in front of me. This was the area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp
> every year. Then there was Rex Phelps and another 'fox from Michigan
> (can't recall his name) in their usual spot right next to the
> Homebuilders Headquarters, and of course the absolutely gorgeous new
> Rotec-radial-powered Super Sport flown to the show by Debra and John,
> and two others as I recall. I'm sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a
> Kitfox on floats near the Kitfox display.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
>
>> <7suds@chartermi.net>
>>
>> Lynn,
>> Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory" I'm sure you
>> still had
>> a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish I had my Outback
>> up and
>> flying, would have loved to joined the race. A friend and I found
>> ourselves
>> tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one year waiting out a storm on our
>> way into
>> Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO there had a nice set of couches for us
>> to wait
>> out the storm on.
>> I made it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by
>> the
>> Kitfox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from
>> him on
>> the finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much,
>> seemed
>> pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on.
>> Tried to
>> find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt
>> Headquarters,
>> normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately
>> this year
>> with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot
>> and had
>> no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite
>> field, a 4 and
>> a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out
>> the
>> Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year.
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Cudnohufsky
>> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA
>> Northern Mi.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 01:35:00
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: matco wheels |
I tried the pump from ACE that was posted earlier. Seemed to help the bleading.
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Model II Weight and Balance |
The last line is only for certified aircraft. ;-)
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: August 1, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Model II Weight and Balance
Skystar Kitfox Model IV ( 4) ser. #1717 C-FDUG
WEIGHT AND BALANCE FOR AIRCRAFT Wheels orig copy Installed
THE DATUM : Leading Edge of wing
Leveling Means: Bubble level on longitudinal fuselage floor tubing below the
cabin
Maximum Gross Weight:1050
Forward CG limit 11.37 Aft CG limit 16.00
ENTER DATA IN THE RED CELLS AS NEEDED
COMPUTED RESULTS IN THE BLUE CELLS.
ALL WEIGHTS IN LBS, DISTANCES IN INCHES and AFT (unless marked "-")
PART ONE
(EMPTY WEIGHT DATA)
IF YOU DON'T KNOW, GO TO PART TWO
ENTER EMPTY AIRCRAFT WEIGHT HERE = 520 LBS
ENTER AIRCRAFT EMPTY CG HERE = 12.95 IN.
ENTER EMPTY MOMENT HERE = 6734 INCH/LBS
CALCULATED EMPTY AIRCRAFT MOMENT = 6734 INCH/LBS
PART TWO
(CALCULATING EMPTY WEIGHT DATA)
FIGURING EMPTY WEIGHT CG.
MAIN WHEELS DATA WEIGHTS
RIGHT MAIN WHEEL WEIGHT = 244 LBS
LEFT MAIN WHEEL WEIGHT = 242 LBS
MAIN WHEEL DISTANCE FROM DATUM = 2.9 IN.
MAIN WHEEL MOMENT = 1409.4 INCH/LBS
CALCULATED MAIN WHEEL MOMENT = 1409.4 INCH/LBS
TAIL WHEEL/NOSE WHEEL DATA
TAIL/NOSE WHEEL WEIGHT = 34 LBS
NOSE WHEEL DISTANCE FROM DATUM= 156.6 IN.
NOSE MOMENT IF KNOWN = INCH/LBS
CALCULATED TAIL/NOSE MOMENT = 5324.4 INCH/LBS
TOTAL WEIGHT = 520 LBS
CG MOMENT
EMPTY WEIGHT CENTER OF GRAVITY DATA 12.95 IN 6734 INCH/LBS
AFT of datum
FIGURE FINAL CG BELOW
ENTER THE FOLLOWING AS NEEDED
SUBJECT WEIGHT X ARM X MOMENT
AIRCRAFT EMPTY WEIGHT = 520 X 13.29 X 6884.22
INCH/LBS
PILOT WEIGHT = 170 X 18.3 X 3111 INCH/LBS
PASSENGER WEIGHT = 170 X 18.3 X 3111 INCH/LBS
FUEL WEIGHT (7.2 LBS/GAL) = 56 X -8 X -448
INCH/LBS
OIL WEIGHT (1.9LBS/QT) = 3.8 X -21 X -79.8
INCH/LBS
BAGGAGE WEIGHT = X 30 X 0 INCH/LBS
Wing tanks (7.2 LBS/GAL) 72 X 16.5 X 1188
INCH/LBS
ELT 3.3 X 0 X 0 INCH/LBS
First Aid Kit 1.5 30
X X 0 INCH/LBS
TOTALS 996.6 LBS 13766.42 INCH/LBS
AIRCRAFT CENTER OF GRAVITY = 13.81 INCHES Aft of DATUM
Equipment list included in Weight and Balance report as required by CARS
549.13 Equipment and Instruments
Additional Equipment List:
ELT, First aid kit Added to Weight and Balance report
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE STATEMENT
The described maintenance has been performed in accordance with the
applicable airworthiness requirements
Date:_______________
____________________________________
(Signature)
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
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| Subject: | Re: Model II Weight and Balance |
Float Flyr wrote:
> The last line is only for certified aircraft. ;-)
>
> Noel
>
>
> --
Noel you are wrong.
Mine is registered as Amateur built that is what is req'd in Canada
>>Equipment list included in Weight and Balance report as required by CARS
549.13 Equipment and Instruments
Additional Equipment List:
ELT, First aid kit Added to Weight and Balance report
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE STATEMENT
The described maintenance has been performed in accordance with the
applicable airworthiness requirements
Date:_______________
____________________________________
(Signature)
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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| Subject: | Re: matco wheels |
It generally works best to bleed/fill from the bottom up. I use a pump oil can
with a 6" vinyl hose push it on the pump oil can slip over the wheel brake bleeder
and pump fluid in till no air comes out of the master cylinder, air bubble
move up a lot easier then trying to force them down. You have to remove the
screw from the master.
--------
GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III
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| Subject: | Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners |
7suds(at)Chartermi.net wrote:
>
> Tried to find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt Headquarters,
normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately this
year with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot and had
no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite field, a 4 and
a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out the Seaplane
Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year.
>
> Lloyd Cudnohufsky
> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA
> Northern Mi.
Sorry I missed you Lloyd. Mine was the yellow IV (with peeling flapperons) at
the UL field. I was thinking of putting my cell # on the prop tag, I probably
should have...
Though it can be a challenge to land on, I would encourage more of our fraternity
to fly in to the UL field. There is lots of fun to be had down there and easy
access. Plus you can go flying during the week...
--------
Thanks,
Av8r3400
Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO
Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp
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Lynn
-
I was looking at your engine installation last week ay Oshkosh.- You have
two (I think yellow or orange) items-on each side of the engine that sta
tes something like "high voltage".- I don't have this on my 2200 so-I s
uppose this is an add on.- What is it, an electronic ignition?- Whateve
r it is I'm sure it helped you win your class in the race.
-
Mike
Kitfox IV, Jabiru 2200=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: matco wheels |
fwiw
the ''screw'' in the cylinder is a #10. i took a #10 and drilled a hole
thru it and worked over one end so a hose would fit over it and not leak.
now i can pump as much fluid into the cylinder as it takes to remove air and
the extra neatly goes into a can.
also, a 10-20 ml. syringe with an 18ga. needle slips into the cylinder
after the job is done and takes the level of fluid down as much as is needed
so it doesn't overflow.
bob noffs
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mnflyer <gbsb2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It generally works best to bleed/fill from the bottom up. I use a pump oil
> can with a 6" vinyl hose push it on the pump oil can slip over the wheel
> brake bleeder and pump fluid in till no air comes out of the master
> cylinder, air bubble move up a lot easier then trying to force them down.
> You have to remove the screw from the master.
>
> --------
> GB
> MNFlyer
> Flying a HKS Kitfox III
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307390#307390
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: matco wheels |
Hi Bob, I think I may have missed your question were you asking about getting air
into the tires with the Matco wheels if so yes it chan be fun when i replaced
my tires I got the shortest valve stems available and found the the rubber
one are best as they can be be flexed some also replaced the standard an nut with
a small an nut to give more space.
--------
GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III
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