---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/03/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:00 AM - mod 4 flaperon (Malcolm Brubaker) 2. 09:06 AM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Cudnohufsky's) 3. 10:02 AM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Lynn Matteson) 4. 11:36 AM - Re: matco wheels (jridgway) 5. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Model II Weight and Balance (Noel Loveys) 6. 02:50 PM - Re: Model II Weight and Balance (dave) 7. 03:31 PM - Re: matco wheels (Mnflyer) 8. 05:16 PM - Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners (Av8r3400) 9. 05:21 PM - Lynn's engine (Mike Chaney) 10. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: matco wheels (bob noffs) 11. 07:38 PM - Re: matco wheels (Mnflyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:30 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Kitfox-List: mod 4 flaperon I am looking for the hardware for a mod4 flaperon- please contact me off list- =0A-- and- do not arcive--- mal=0A-Malcolm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)513-3022 =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Lynn Matteson =0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:19:0 8 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners=0A=0A--> Kitfo x-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson =0A=0A=0ALloyd- =0AI was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and another 'fox =0Awere 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row in front of me. This was =0Athe area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp every year. T hen there was Rex =0APhelps and another 'fox from Michigan (can't recall hi s name) in their usual =0Aspot right next to the Homebuilders Headquarters, and of course the absolutely =0Agorgeous new Rotec-radial-powered Super Sp ort flown to the show by Debra and =0AJohn, and two others as I recall. I'm sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a =0AKitfox on floats near the Kitfox d isplay.=0A=0ALynn Matteson=0AKitfox IV Speedster, taildragger=0AJabiru 2200 , #2062=0ASensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)=0AElectroair direct-fire ignition system=0ARotec TBI-40 injection=0AStatus: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-20 06)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:=0A t>=0A> =0A> Lynn,=0A> Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory" I'm sure you still had=0A> a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish I had my Outback up and=0A> flying, would have loved to joined the race. - A friend and I found ourselves=0A> tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one y ear waiting out a storm on our way into=0A> Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO th ere had a nice set of couches for us to wait=0A> out the storm on.=0A> I ma de it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by the=0A> Kitf ox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from him on=0A> t he finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much, seemed=0A> pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on. Tried to=0A > find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt Headquarter s,=0A> normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately thi s year=0A> with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry s pot and had=0A> no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra li te field, a 4 and=0A> a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show , checked out the=0A> Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next y ear.=0A> =0A> =0A> Lloyd Cudnohufsky=0A> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA=0A> Northern - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ======0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:31 AM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners Thanks Lynn, With that many around I'm not sure how I missed them, were they all still there on Friday? I did see the 3 at the Kitfox Booth including the Radial, and you are correct, it was an absolutely gorgeous bird as were the others on display there by John and Debra. Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners Lloyd- I was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and another 'fox were 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row in front of me. This was the area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp every year. Then there was Rex Phelps and another 'fox from Michigan (can't recall his name) in their usual spot right next to the Homebuilders Headquarters, and of course the absolutely gorgeous new Rotec-radial-powered Super Sport flown to the show by Debra and John, and two others as I recall. I'm sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a Kitfox on floats near the Kitfox display. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote: > <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Lynn, > Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory" I'm sure you > still had > a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish I had my Outback > up and > flying, would have loved to joined the race. A friend and I found > ourselves > tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one year waiting out a storm on our > way into > Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO there had a nice set of couches for us > to wait > out the storm on. > I made it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by the > Kitfox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from > him on > the finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much, > seemed > pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on. > Tried to > find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt > Headquarters, > normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately > this year > with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot > and had > no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite > field, a 4 and > a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out the > Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year. > > > Lloyd Cudnohufsky > 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA > Northern Mi. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01:35:00 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:07 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners I'm not sure about Friday, Lloyd, but Thursday morning they were still there. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote: > <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Thanks Lynn, > With that many around I'm not sure how I missed them, were they all > still > there on Friday? I did see the 3 at the Kitfox Booth including the > Radial, > and you are correct, it was an absolutely gorgeous bird as were the > others > on display there by John and Debra. > > Lloyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn > Matteson > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:19 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AirVenture Cup Race Winners > > > > Lloyd- > I was parked next to a model 5 in row 307, and Stan Sprecht and > another 'fox were 2-3 rows behind me, and Pete Christenson was a row > in front of me. This was the area where most all of the Kitfoxes camp > every year. Then there was Rex Phelps and another 'fox from Michigan > (can't recall his name) in their usual spot right next to the > Homebuilders Headquarters, and of course the absolutely gorgeous new > Rotec-radial-powered Super Sport flown to the show by Debra and John, > and two others as I recall. I'm sure I missed a few. Oh, yeah, and a > Kitfox on floats near the Kitfox display. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer) > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > > > On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote: > >> <7suds@chartermi.net> >> >> Lynn, >> Great story, even with as you say a "hollow victory" I'm sure you >> still had >> a great time, I know I would have, makes me wish I had my Outback >> up and >> flying, would have loved to joined the race. A friend and I found >> ourselves >> tied down in Shawano Wisconsin one year waiting out a storm on our >> way into >> Oshkosh, fortunately the FBO there had a nice set of couches for us >> to wait >> out the storm on. >> I made it to Oshkosh this year on Friday. My wife and I stopped by >> the >> Kitfox Booth and bumped into John, tried to lure some secrets from >> him on >> the finish and fit of his strut fairings, he wasn't saying much, >> seemed >> pretty busy, Debra was also busy with customers so we moved on. >> Tried to >> find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt >> Headquarters, >> normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately >> this year >> with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot >> and had >> no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite >> field, a 4 and >> a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out >> the >> Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year. >> >> >> Lloyd Cudnohufsky >> 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA >> Northern Mi. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 01:35:00 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:05 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: matco wheels From: "jridgway" I tried the pump from ACE that was posted earlier. Seemed to help the bleading. Jack Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307354#307354 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:44 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Model II Weight and Balance The last line is only for certified aircraft. ;-) Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: August 1, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Model II Weight and Balance Skystar Kitfox Model IV ( 4) ser. #1717 C-FDUG WEIGHT AND BALANCE FOR AIRCRAFT Wheels orig copy Installed THE DATUM : Leading Edge of wing Leveling Means: Bubble level on longitudinal fuselage floor tubing below the cabin Maximum Gross Weight:1050 Forward CG limit 11.37 Aft CG limit 16.00 ENTER DATA IN THE RED CELLS AS NEEDED COMPUTED RESULTS IN THE BLUE CELLS. ALL WEIGHTS IN LBS, DISTANCES IN INCHES and AFT (unless marked "-") PART ONE (EMPTY WEIGHT DATA) IF YOU DON'T KNOW, GO TO PART TWO ENTER EMPTY AIRCRAFT WEIGHT HERE = 520 LBS ENTER AIRCRAFT EMPTY CG HERE = 12.95 IN. ENTER EMPTY MOMENT HERE = 6734 INCH/LBS CALCULATED EMPTY AIRCRAFT MOMENT = 6734 INCH/LBS PART TWO (CALCULATING EMPTY WEIGHT DATA) FIGURING EMPTY WEIGHT CG. MAIN WHEELS DATA WEIGHTS RIGHT MAIN WHEEL WEIGHT = 244 LBS LEFT MAIN WHEEL WEIGHT = 242 LBS MAIN WHEEL DISTANCE FROM DATUM = 2.9 IN. MAIN WHEEL MOMENT = 1409.4 INCH/LBS CALCULATED MAIN WHEEL MOMENT = 1409.4 INCH/LBS TAIL WHEEL/NOSE WHEEL DATA TAIL/NOSE WHEEL WEIGHT = 34 LBS NOSE WHEEL DISTANCE FROM DATUM= 156.6 IN. NOSE MOMENT IF KNOWN = INCH/LBS CALCULATED TAIL/NOSE MOMENT = 5324.4 INCH/LBS TOTAL WEIGHT = 520 LBS CG MOMENT EMPTY WEIGHT CENTER OF GRAVITY DATA 12.95 IN 6734 INCH/LBS AFT of datum FIGURE FINAL CG BELOW ENTER THE FOLLOWING AS NEEDED SUBJECT WEIGHT X ARM X MOMENT AIRCRAFT EMPTY WEIGHT = 520 X 13.29 X 6884.22 INCH/LBS PILOT WEIGHT = 170 X 18.3 X 3111 INCH/LBS PASSENGER WEIGHT = 170 X 18.3 X 3111 INCH/LBS FUEL WEIGHT (7.2 LBS/GAL) = 56 X -8 X -448 INCH/LBS OIL WEIGHT (1.9LBS/QT) = 3.8 X -21 X -79.8 INCH/LBS BAGGAGE WEIGHT = X 30 X 0 INCH/LBS Wing tanks (7.2 LBS/GAL) 72 X 16.5 X 1188 INCH/LBS ELT 3.3 X 0 X 0 INCH/LBS First Aid Kit 1.5 30 X X 0 INCH/LBS TOTALS 996.6 LBS 13766.42 INCH/LBS AIRCRAFT CENTER OF GRAVITY = 13.81 INCHES Aft of DATUM Equipment list included in Weight and Balance report as required by CARS 549.13 Equipment and Instruments Additional Equipment List: ELT, First aid kit Added to Weight and Balance report MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE STATEMENT The described maintenance has been performed in accordance with the applicable airworthiness requirements Date:_______________ ____________________________________ (Signature) -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307049#307049 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:47 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Model II Weight and Balance From: "dave" Float Flyr wrote: > The last line is only for certified aircraft. ;-) > > Noel > > > -- Noel you are wrong. Mine is registered as Amateur built that is what is req'd in Canada >>Equipment list included in Weight and Balance report as required by CARS 549.13 Equipment and Instruments Additional Equipment List: ELT, First aid kit Added to Weight and Balance report MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE STATEMENT The described maintenance has been performed in accordance with the applicable airworthiness requirements Date:_______________ ____________________________________ (Signature) -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307383#307383 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:31:47 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: matco wheels From: "Mnflyer" It generally works best to bleed/fill from the bottom up. I use a pump oil can with a 6" vinyl hose push it on the pump oil can slip over the wheel brake bleeder and pump fluid in till no air comes out of the master cylinder, air bubble move up a lot easier then trying to force them down. You have to remove the screw from the master. -------- GB MNFlyer Flying a HKS Kitfox III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307390#307390 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:42 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: AirVenture Cup Race Winners From: "Av8r3400" 7suds(at)Chartermi.net wrote: > > Tried to find the Kitfox's by checking with the folks at the Homebuilt Headquarters, normally they know the rows they are parked in but unfortunately this year with all the rain they had to put them wherever they had a dry spot and had no clue where to find them. Finally found 2 at the ultra lite field, a 4 and a 3 but no one was around, so we watched the air show, checked out the Seaplane Base and headed for home. Well, maybe next year. > > Lloyd Cudnohufsky > 5 Outback 912 IVO IFA > Northern Mi. Sorry I missed you Lloyd. Mine was the yellow IV (with peeling flapperons) at the UL field. I was thinking of putting my cell # on the prop tag, I probably should have... Though it can be a challenge to land on, I would encourage more of our fraternity to fly in to the UL field. There is lots of fun to be had down there and easy access. Plus you can go flying during the week... -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL & IVO Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL & Warp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307402#307402 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:43 PM PST US From: Mike Chaney Subject: Kitfox-List: Lynn's engine Lynn - I was looking at your engine installation last week ay Oshkosh.- You have two (I think yellow or orange) items-on each side of the engine that sta tes something like "high voltage".- I don't have this on my 2200 so-I s uppose this is an add on.- What is it, an electronic ignition?- Whateve r it is I'm sure it helped you win your class in the race. - Mike Kitfox IV, Jabiru 2200=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: matco wheels From: bob noffs fwiw the ''screw'' in the cylinder is a #10. i took a #10 and drilled a hole thru it and worked over one end so a hose would fit over it and not leak. now i can pump as much fluid into the cylinder as it takes to remove air and the extra neatly goes into a can. also, a 10-20 ml. syringe with an 18ga. needle slips into the cylinder after the job is done and takes the level of fluid down as much as is needed so it doesn't overflow. bob noffs On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mnflyer wrote: > > It generally works best to bleed/fill from the bottom up. I use a pump oil > can with a 6" vinyl hose push it on the pump oil can slip over the wheel > brake bleeder and pump fluid in till no air comes out of the master > cylinder, air bubble move up a lot easier then trying to force them down. > You have to remove the screw from the master. > > -------- > GB > MNFlyer > Flying a HKS Kitfox III > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307390#307390 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:52 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: matco wheels From: "Mnflyer" Hi Bob, I think I may have missed your question were you asking about getting air into the tires with the Matco wheels if so yes it chan be fun when i replaced my tires I got the shortest valve stems available and found the the rubber one are best as they can be be flexed some also replaced the standard an nut with a small an nut to give more space. -------- GB MNFlyer Flying a HKS Kitfox III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307421#307421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.