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1. 11:02 AM - Re: Air speed indicator stuck (Catz631@aol.com)
2. 11:59 AM - Re: Air speed indicator stuck (Tom Jones)
3. 12:06 PM - Re: ground loop damage assessment (Tom Jones)
4. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: ground loop damage assessment (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
5. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Air speed indicator stuck (bob noffs)
6. 03:28 PM - Re: Air speed indicator stuck (Lowell Fitt)
7. 04:13 PM - Key West Voltage Regulator (Tom Jones)
8. 04:36 PM - Re: Re: ground loop damage assessment (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
9. 09:20 PM - Re: Key West Voltage Regulator (Malcolm Brubaker)
10. 09:21 PM - flaperon hardware mod 3 (Malcolm Brubaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Air speed indicator stuck |
Had a Piper Pacer once and gave it a bath. I stuck a cigarette butt in the
pitot tube to keep water out of it and of course forgot about it. Flew it
around the pattern with that butt blocking it but no big deal..stupid ...yes.
And then there was that Pitts..but I won't go into that. I did have a
failure on a P-3 Orion right after take off now that was a challenge as it is a
little tough doing "seat of the pants' in that large of an airplane.
I am sure that Lynn would have NO problem flying his airplane without an
airspeed indicator as he has so much time in it. Just takes familiarity.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Air speed indicator stuck |
During my tail wheel endorsement training I flew a J3 cub from the back seat.
I kept chasing the air speed while doing touch and goes so my instructor put his
hand over the ASI just after lift off. He told me to fly by attitude which
I should have been doing anyway. He peeked at the ASI a couple times on approach
then took his hand away as we crossed the fence so I could see it was right
on 60 mph.
I have a pretty good feel for speeds in my kitfox now but this was my first no
ASI landing solo. I kept the speed up on approach to what felt to me like 70
mph. It probably was cause I floated a long way down the runway.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: ground loop damage assessment |
jlno7(at)aim.com wrote:
> I have a Kitfox 1 and recently ground looped into a tree. The right
> wing was badly damaged and will need replacing along with the flaperone
> hinges and propeller damaged. the fusalage and left wing are good. I
> want to know if anyone would have a ballpark guess of how much this
> would cost to repair providing I do the wing fabric myself and purchase
> the wing and have someone tare the engine apart. If this is too
> costly, How much could I get if I sold it as is? (ballpark)
>
> Jerry Novak
> Pulaski WI
Jerry, that would be a big ball park. If you have to buy all new parts to build
a new wing I would make an educated guess of $3500. if you can find a used
wing and/or salvage parts from your damaged wing it could be considerably less.
Having the engine torn down and inspected would't be too much if their is no damage.
I guess about $300.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307675#307675
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| Subject: | Re: ground loop damage assessment |
Jerry=2C get ahold of Bret Mckinney at Avid/Airdale in Rhinelander=2C Wi.
I traded him a set of Kitfox 1 wings a while back=2C he may still have
them. His # is 1-715-369-1343 and email is sales@airdale.com take car
e=2C Jim Chuk Avids=2C Kitfox 4 (building) Mn
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: ground loop damage assessment
> From: nahsikhs@elltel.net
> Date: Thu=2C 5 Aug 2010 12:05:57 -0700
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
> jlno7(at)aim.com wrote:
> > I have a Kitfox 1 and recently ground looped into a tree. The right
> > wing was badly damaged and will need replacing along with the flaperone
> > hinges and propeller damaged. the fusalage and left wing are good. I
> > want to know if anyone would have a ballpark guess of how much this
> > would cost to repair providing I do the wing fabric myself and purchase
> > the wing and have someone tare the engine apart. If this is too
> > costly=2C How much could I get if I sold it as is? (ballpark)
> >
> > Jerry Novak
> > Pulaski WI
>
>
> Jerry=2C that would be a big ball park. If you have to buy all new parts
to build a new wing I would make an educated guess of $3500. if you can fin
d a used wing and/or salvage parts from your damaged wing it could be consi
derably less.
>
> Having the engine torn down and inspected would't be too much if their is
no damage. I guess about $300.
>
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> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax=2C 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg=2C WA
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307675#307675
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| Subject: | Re: Air speed indicator stuck |
funny this came up.
i haven't been pic in 25 yrs and never flown a taildragger, let alone even
sat in a tandem seating. yesterday i started taking some ''lessons'' in a
champ to pass my bfr as i hope my project [a taildragger] will fly this
fall.
instructor said it would want to fly at 40-45mph. at a constant 20mph
the tail was up and it felt like it was ''time to go'' even though i had
never felt that in a taildragger before i guess it feels the same in
anything. climbing out felt solid and then the instructor finally said over
the headphones ''i guess the airspeed isn't working, i washed the plane
today.''
it all worked out fine. after 10 minutes the airstream must have dried
out the water because we had airspeed again.
thinking back i had never even taken off in a taildragger let alone tried
to land one after doing a run fast enough to bring the tail up and i
thought it much better to continue and get in the air. i would guess the
instructor was so intent on taking the controls should i lose it he didn't
notice the airspeed was inop. and everything felt good to him in the back
seat. i did a dozen landings with no help and no bounces. i felt pretty good
about that 10 more hours in his champ and i will be ready to fly mine!
bob noffs
his champ was restored 4 yrs. ago and was as beautiful as new.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote:
>
> During my tail wheel endorsement training I flew a J3 cub from the back
> seat. I kept chasing the air speed while doing touch and goes so my
> instructor put his hand over the ASI just after lift off. He told me to fly
> by attitude which I should have been doing anyway. He peeked at the ASI a
> couple times on approach then took his hand away as we crossed the fence so
> I could see it was right on 60 mph.
>
> I have a pretty good feel for speeds in my kitfox now but this was my first
> no ASI landing solo. I kept the speed up on approach to what felt to me
> like 70 mph. It probably was cause I floated a long way down the runway.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307672#307672
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air speed indicator stuck |
Dick,
Did you do any hurricane chasing in the orion. The reason I ask is a
good friend who built a Series V while fighting colon cancer flew them
in the Navy - at least that is what I think he flew. We lost him in
hospice but he was able to fly for a couple of years - Leo Rice.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: Catz631@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Air speed indicator stuck
Had a Piper Pacer once and gave it a bath. I stuck a cigarette butt in
the pitot tube to keep water out of it and of course forgot about it.
Flew it around the pattern with that butt blocking it but no big
deal..stupid ...yes. And then there was that Pitts..but I won't go into
that. I did have a failure on a P-3 Orion right after take off now that
was a challenge as it is a little tough doing "seat of the pants' in
that large of an airplane.
I am sure that Lynn would have NO problem flying his airplane without
an airspeed indicator as he has so much time in it. Just takes
familiarity.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Key West Voltage Regulator |
This is on a 503 rotax.
My Tympanium voltage regulator went bad so I replaced it with a Key West regulator.
I had the 12VDC output wire from the old tympanium regulator connected to
the starter side of the master contactor so This is where I connected the Key
West 12V DC output wire. My Hobbs meter is also connected to the same terminal
on the starter side of the master contactor.
I noticed my Hobbs kept running when the master is off. I disconnected all the
wires on the Key west and checked for voltage. There is 4.3 volts DC between
the key west ground terminal and 12V DC output terminal. Is it normal to have
some residual voltage in the Key west?
I guess I need to move the output wire from the key west regulator to the battery
+ terminal so that 4.3 volts doesn't touch the hobbs wire?? Am I on the right
track?
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307710#307710
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| Subject: | Re: ground loop damage assessment |
Jerry=2C After I sent this message=2C I remembered about another set of Ki
tfox 1 wings I heard about out in Idaho. It will take me a bit of digging
to get then number in Idaho=2C so let me kinow if things don't work out wit
h Bret's wings and I will track down the Idaho #. Take care=2C Jim Chuk
Avids=2C Kitfox 4 (building) Mn
From: thesupe@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: ground loop damage assessment
Jerry=2C get ahold of Bret Mckinney at Avid/Airdale in Rhinelander=2C Wi.
I traded him a set of Kitfox 1 wings a while back=2C he may still have
them. His # is 1-715-369-1343 and email is sales@airdale.com take car
e=2C Jim Chuk Avids=2C Kitfox 4 (building) Mn
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: ground loop damage assessment
> From: nahsikhs@elltel.net
> Date: Thu=2C 5 Aug 2010 12:05:57 -0700
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
> jlno7(at)aim.com wrote:
> > I have a Kitfox 1 and recently ground looped into a tree. The right
> > wing was badly damaged and will need replacing along with the flaperone
> > hinges and propeller damaged. the fusalage and left wing are good. I
> > want to know if anyone would have a ballpark guess of how much this
> > would cost to repair providing I do the wing fabric myself and purchase
> > the wing and have someone tare the engine apart. If this is too
> > costly=2C How much could I get if I sold it as is? (ballpark)
> >
> > Jerry Novak
> > Pulaski WI
>
>
> Jerry=2C that would be a big ball park. If you have to buy all new parts
to build a new wing I would make an educated guess of $3500. if you can fin
d a used wing and/or salvage parts from your damaged wing it could be consi
derably less.
>
> Having the engine torn down and inspected would't be too much if their is
no damage. I guess about $300.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax=2C 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg=2C WA
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307675#307675
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Key West Voltage Regulator |
mine did samething simular but the hobs just ran down to stop maybe 8 secon
ds- =0Ait seems yours sounds like it is dooing something different=0A-M
alcolm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)
513-3022 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tom Jones
<nahsikhs@elltel.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, August 5
, 2010 7:12:20 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Key West Voltage Regulator=0A=0A-
is is on a 503 rotax.=0AMy Tympanium voltage regulator went bad so I replac
ed it with a Key West =0Aregulator.- I had the 12VDC output wire from the
old tympanium regulator =0Aconnected to the starter side of the master con
tactor so This is where I =0Aconnected the Key West 12V DC output wire.-
My Hobbs meter is also connected to =0Athe same terminal on the starter sid
e of the master contactor.=0A=0AI noticed my Hobbs kept running when the ma
ster is off.- I disconnected all the =0Awires on the Key west and checked
for voltage.- There is 4.3 volts DC between =0Athe key west ground termi
nal and 12V DC output terminal.- Is it normal to have =0Asome residual vo
ltage in the Key west?=0A=0AI guess I need to move the output wire from the
key west regulator to the =0Abattery + terminal so that 4.3 volts doesn't
touch the hobbs wire??- Am I on the =0Aright track?=0A=0A--------=0ATom J
ones=0AClassic IV=0A503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp=0AEllensburg, WA=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List
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| Subject: | flaperon hardware mod 3 |
I need some flaperon hardware for a mod 3for a frind .Can a person ship the
=0Aalunimun for that cut to width and rooled up in a 24 in box?=0A-Malco
lm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(989)513-
3022 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jim_and_Lucy C
huk <thesupe@hotmail.com>=0ATo: kitfox list <kitfox-list@matronics.com>=0AS
ent: Thu, August 5, 2010 7:36:21 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: ground
loop damage assessment=0A=0AJerry,- After I sent this message, I remember
ed about another set of Kitfox 1 =0Awings I heard about out in Idaho.- It
will take me a bit of digging to get then =0Anumber in Idaho, so let me ki
now if things don't work out with-Bret's wings and =0AI will track down t
he Idaho #.- Take care,- Jim Chuk- Avids, Kitfox =0A4-(building)-
-Mn=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom: thesupe@hotmail.com
=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: ground loo
p damage assessment=0ADate: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:25:49 +0000=0A=0AJerry,- g
et ahold of Bret Mckinney at Avid/Airdale in Rhinelander, Wi.--- =0AI
-traded him a set of Kitfox 1 wings a while back,--he may still have
them.- His =0A# is 1-715-369-1343- and email is- -sales@airdale.com
-- take care,- Jim Chuk- =0AAvids,- Kitfox 4-(building)- Mn
=0A-=0A> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: ground loop damage assessment=0A> From
: nahsikhs@elltel.net=0A> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:05:57 -0700=0A> To: kitf
s" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>=0A> =0A> =0A> jlno7(at)aim.com wrote:=0A> > I have
a Kitfox 1 and recently ground looped into a tree. The right =0A> > wing w
as badly damaged and will need replacing along with the flaperone =0A> > hi
nges and propeller damaged. the fusalage and left wing are good. I =0A> > w
ant to know if anyone would have a ballpark guess of how much this =0A> > w
ould cost to repair providing I do the wing fabric myself and purchase =0A>
> the wing and have someone tare the engine apart. If this is too =0A> > c
ostly, How much could I get if I sold it as is? (ballpark)=0A> > =0A> > Jer
ry Novak=0A> > Pulaski WI=0A> =0A> =0A> Jerry, that would be a big ball par
k. If you have to buy all new parts to build =0A>a new wing I would make an
educated guess of $3500. if you can find a used wing =0A>and/or salvage pa
rts from your damaged wing it could be considerably less.=0A> =0A> Having t
he engine torn down and inspected would't be too much if their is no =0A>da
mage. I guess about $300.=0A> =0A> --------=0A> Tom Jones=0A> Classic IV=0A
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp=0A> Ellensburg, WA=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>
=0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.matronics.com/view
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