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1. 09:29 AM - Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (WurlyBird)
2. 11:12 AM - EA-81 weight FYI (Margaret Hastedt)
3. 11:47 AM - Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (Mnflyer)
4. 01:38 PM - Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (aerobatics@aol.com)
5. 03:32 PM - Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (dave)
6. 03:34 PM - Re: EA-81 weight FYI (dave)
7. 03:38 PM - Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (Mnflyer)
8. 08:03 PM - Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 (WurlyBird)
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Subject: | Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
I am once again seriously looking at trading my 582 for an HKS and was trying to
do a little reading up on it here. It seems in 2007 there was quite a bit of
conversation about it and one subscriber named Dave, Aerobatics(at)AOL.COM was
talking about having a side by side comparison with the two engines.
So Dave, did the fly off ever happen? What were the results?
I assume there are now more people flying with HKSs and I would love to hear you
chime in. Are people thinking it flies side by side with the 582? Slightly
less powerful? Same as a 503? What prop have you tried, what works? I think
I will be alright if my take off run increases 100 feet dual (oh no, 350 feet
to take off) and my rate of climb suffers less the 100 fpm. I would love to
hear what people are saying now though since it is not a small chunk of money
to make the change. Yes I know it is cheaper over the long run.
Thanks to anyone who can shed more light.
James
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 72" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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Subject: | EA-81 weight FYI |
Hi gang,
I am proceeding with replacing my (mostly) NSI EA-81 engine with a Jab 3300. For
fun and curiosity I went out and bought a big-game scale, removed the engine,
mount, radiator etc etc and hung it off the scale from my engine hoist. The
oil and coolant remained in the engine. It was (drum roll please....) 270
lbs. Add another 8 lbs for the propeller (Powerfin 68").
To be scientific, the non-NSI bits of my powerplant are a Hirth redrive, an auto
ignition coil, and the original car alternator. The aluminum flywheel does
not have lightening holes. My engine came out of an '83 station wagon. I just
thought it might be useful to have one more data point for the powerplant discussions
that periodically crop up on this list.
-Margaret H.
Classic IV N3076U
College Station, TX
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Subject: | Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
Hi, I converted my Model III 4.5 years ago and now have 430 hrs on the HKS. In
my opinion it is equal to the 582 when it comes to power, TO roll and climb my
cruise increased about 5 mph fuel consumption went from 4.5 gph to 3 gph operating
costs are 1/2 of what the 582 was about $12.5 vs $25.00, TBO is now 1000
hrs. Yes the cost is more than overhauling the 582 would be but in the not to
long run it is much less money, I now figure my engine cost me little or no money
vs the cost for 2 overhauls and the extra fuel. I no longer have to rejet
every spring and fall spark plugs last 200 hrs vs 25. I have found that a 2 blade
Warp Drive prop has been working good, some guys are now going to the Aerolux
prop and seem very impressed and happy with it. The HKS is not a 503 in
any comparison it is a full 60 hp engine and needs the right propeller to produce
it rated power and preformance.
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GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III
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Subject: | Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
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Subject: | Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
582 in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg1qKTvHOAg&feature=fvsr
Let's see a HKS movie please before you say that the power is the same.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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Subject: | Re: EA-81 weight FYI |
hmm let me see -- after 2 engines and all the money spent , the 912 would have
been a great option ?
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
Awesome *New Forum *
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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Subject: | Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
dave wrote:
> 582 in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg1qKTvHOAg&feature=fvsr
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> Let's see a HKS movie please before you say that the power is the same.
I have 277 hrs flying a 582 and now 430 flying the HKS how many hours do you have
flying a HKS?
Anyone can make a video look good not a real measure of performance.
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GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III
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Subject: | Re: Old Thread, Revisited; HKS vs 582 |
GB, what size Warp are you turning?
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 72" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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