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Fri 10/29/10


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 05:34 AM - Re: engine quit due to ethanol (Noel Loveys)
     2. 05:38 AM - Re: engine quit due to ethanol (Dorsal)
     3. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: engine quit due to ethanol (Vic Baker)
     4. 10:16 AM - Re: engine quit due to ethanol (bjones@dmv.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:34:29 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: engine quit due to ethanol
    I've done several inspections of the tanks of many types of aircraft. In gas powered aircraft the worst I've found is a few hairs from the felt used to filter the fuel as it is put into the plane. ( all 100LL ) If you want to see a good crop of kelp have a look into the tank of an older turbine powered aircraft. It will amaze you what can grow in darkness in a kerosene environment which spends a lot of time extremely cold. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bjones@dmv.com Sent: October 27, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engine quit due to ethanol Keep in mind that if you get water in a tank with ethanol blended gas, it will not show up during sumping. The water is absorbed into the ethanol if and until a certain concentration occurs then the ethanol and water will settleout to the bottom together, in a large bolus, that is about one gallon of settleout in a ten gallon tank of gas. You can't sump the water out to prevent phase seperation. BJ


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    Time: 05:38:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine quit due to ethanol
    From: "Dorsal" <dorsal61@yahoo.com>
    Too many potential issues, 100% Avgas and Decalin for me. Had a nasty issue with Mogas releasing a resin like substance from my tank and completely fouling my carbs. Sure would like another option. -------- Dorsal Series 7 Flying 912S Warp Drive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317391#317391


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    Time: 08:00:04 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Baker" <vr_baker@nvbell.net>
    Subject: Re: engine quit due to ethanol
    Ok guys, that's enough for me. No more ethanol in my fuel tanks! Just found fuel 60 miles away in Fallon, Nevada. Going to load up my jerry jugs and drive there today. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=NV Vic Baker S7 912S Warp Carson City, Nv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorsal" <dorsal61@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: engine quit due to ethanol > > Too many potential issues, 100% Avgas and Decalin for me. Had a nasty > issue with Mogas releasing a resin like substance from my tank and > completely fouling my carbs. Sure would like another option. > > -------- > Dorsal > Series 7 Flying > 912S Warp Drive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317391#317391 > > >


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    Time: 10:16:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine quit due to ethanol
    From: bjones@dmv.com
    Kelp in the tank does that qualify as going green BJ ------Original Message------ From: Noel Loveys Sender: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: engine quit due to ethanol Sent: Oct 29, 2010 6:29 AM I've done several inspections of the tanks of many types of aircraft. In gas powered aircraft the worst I've found is a few hairs from the felt used to filter the fuel as it is put into the plane. ( all 100LL ) If you want to see a good crop of kelp have a look into the tank of an older turbine powered aircraft. It will amaze you what can grow in darkness in a kerosene environment which spends a lot of time extremely cold. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bjones@dmv.com Sent: October 27, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engine quit due to ethanol Keep in mind that if you get water in a tank with ethanol blended gas, it will not show up during sumping. The water is absorbed into the ethanol if and until a certain concentration occurs then the ethanol and water will settleout to the bottom together, in a large bolus, that is about one gallon of settleout in a ten gallon tank of gas. You can't sump the water out to prevent phase seperation. BJ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry




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