---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/03/10: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:20 AM - November List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:28 AM - WTB 912 guages (egp8111) 2. 07:44 AM - 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (carlisle) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: 582 oil line questions (Tom Jones) 4. 08:51 AM - Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) 5. 10:54 AM - Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (Guy Buchanan) 6. 11:45 AM - Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (Tex Mantell) 7. 12:27 PM - Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (carlisle) 8. 03:53 PM - Bubble doors (Ken Potter) 9. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: 582 oil line questions (Dave G) 10. 04:18 PM - Re: Bubble doors (SkySteve) 11. 07:53 PM - Re: 582 oil line questions (Tom Jones) 12. 09:24 PM - Re: November List Fund Raiser (Michael Logan) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:37 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kitfox-List: November List Fund Raiser There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. 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I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:45 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: WTB 912 guages From: "egp8111" anyone have any 912 guages (tach,oil psi,oil temp,cht) they want to sell ? I'm looking for some for my KF-III re-engine project. thanks, EG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318030#318030 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:35 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts From: "carlisle" Got my new Ivo light 68" ground adjustable prop in. Sure is smooth on runup and love that easy ground adjusting method. Weather won't allow inflight test yet though. The supplied 8mm mounting bolts work but are a little long for my taste. Once properly torqued, the threaded end comes within a few mm of touching the 'C' gearbox housing. Also, I'd feel better if they were drilled and I could safety wire them too. So the question is, can one get shorter 8mm AN quality bolts with the heads drilled? Should I just use drilled AN5 bolts instead? Or, should I just add some washers on the face of the prop hub and not worry about safety wiring? Chris Carlisle Model 2, 582 Bluehead, C box Sioux Falls, SD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318032#318032 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 oil line questions From: "Tom Jones" > The original builder used that "blue" tubing and I could use that but I am curious what others use. > > On the plus side the tubing does not appear to harden with age carrying oil as I have seen with fuel. Dave, is your current oil line 5/16 polyurathane? I wanted to use that but could not find that size, only 1/4 inch. I ended up using 5/16 black rubber transmission oil cooler line from NAPA. It is made by Gates and has 400 psi stamped on it. It makes a pretty tight turn without kinking. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318038#318038 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:16 AM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts I'm don't claim to be an expert=2C but my opinion is that a washer shouldn' t hurt=2C that is unless you have to many of them stacked up. I've used a 8 MM lock nut to safety the bolts with no problem=2C although to be honest =2C I've also run IVO props with no safetys with no problems. Take care=2C Jim Chuk Kitfox 4 (building) Avid MK IV (flying) Mn > Subject: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts > From: carlisle_99@yahoo.com > Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 07:42:12 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Got my new Ivo light 68" ground adjustable prop in. Sure is smooth on run up and love that easy ground adjusting method. Weather won't allow inflight test yet though. > > The supplied 8mm mounting bolts work but are a little long for my taste. Once properly torqued=2C the threaded end comes within a few mm of touching the 'C' gearbox housing. Also=2C I'd feel better if they were drilled and I could safety wire them too. > > So the question is=2C can one get shorter 8mm AN quality bolts with the h eads drilled? Should I just use drilled AN5 bolts instead? Or=2C should I j ust add some washers on the face of the prop hub and not worry about safety wiring? > > Chris Carlisle > Model 2=2C 582 Bluehead=2C C box > Sioux Falls=2C SD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318032#318032 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:28 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts On 11/3/2010 7:42 AM, carlisle wrote: > So the question is, can one get shorter 8mm AN quality bolts with the heads drilled? Should I just use drilled AN5 bolts instead? Or, should I just add some washers on the face of the prop hub and not worry about safety wiring? > I used these: http://www.rotaxparts.net/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1105 -- *_Guy Buchanan_* Scoutmaster -- Troop 680 760.809.6145 scoutmaster@troop680.org www.troop680.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:26 AM PST US From: "Tex Mantell" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts You can use up to three washers under the bolt heads. Tex ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Buchanan To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts On 11/3/2010 7:42 AM, carlisle wrote: So the question is, can one get shorter 8mm AN quality bolts with the heads drilled? Should I just use drilled AN5 bolts instead? Or, should I just add some washers on the face of the prop hub and not worry about safety wiring? I used these: http://www.rotaxparts.net/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1105 -- Guy Buchanan Scoutmaster - Troop 680 760.809.6145 scoutmaster@troop680.org www.troop680.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:32 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts From: "carlisle" Thanks Guy. Those prop bolts from Airwolf look like they'll do the trick. Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318066#318066 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:40 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Bubble doors From: "Ken Potter" Hi Folks, This fall I saw a Model II at a flyin which had bubble doors. I'm interested in something similar for my Model II. Does anyone know if the bubble doors sold by Kitfox for a Model IV fit a model II, or if there is another source for them short of blowing them myself?? Cheers Ken -------- Ken Potter Model II, No. 483 Rotax 582, C-Box, 99% Complete C-FJKP Lanark, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318082#318082 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:57 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 oil line questions I couldn't say exactly. It's a blue plastic line is all I really know, and the blue could have come from dye in the oil. All I can say with any certainty is that it's time to replace it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jones" Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 oil line questions > > >> The original builder used that "blue" tubing and I could use that but I >> am curious what others use. >> >> On the plus side the tubing does not appear to harden with age carrying >> oil as I have seen with fuel. > > > Dave, is your current oil line 5/16 polyurathane? I wanted to use that > but could not find that size, only 1/4 inch. > > I ended up using 5/16 black rubber transmission oil cooler line from NAPA. > It is made by Gates and has 400 psi stamped on it. It makes a pretty > tight turn without kinking. > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318038#318038 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:56 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bubble doors From: "SkySteve" You mean like these 4" bubbles? -------- Steve Wilson Huntsville, UT Kitfox Model 1- 85DD 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318086#318086 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02706_479.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:03 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 oil line questions From: "Tom Jones" > I couldn't say exactly. It's a blue plastic line is all I really know, and > the blue could have come from dye in the oil. All I can say with any > certainty is that it's time to replace it. Okay, if you find a source for 5/16 inside polyurethane let me know. I would like to get some. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318098#318098 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:41 PM PST US From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: November List Fund Raiser test -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: November List Fund Raiser There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. 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