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Thu 11/04/10


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:35 PM - Re: Bubble doors (Ken Potter)
     2. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Bubble doors (Pete Christensen)
     3. 04:46 PM - 582 running hot? (jerry evans)
     4. 05:04 PM - Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts (jerry evans)
     5. 05:10 PM - Re: 582 running hot? (JC Propeller Design)
     6. 05:25 PM - Re: 582 running hot? (jerry evans)
     7. 09:43 PM - Re: 582 running hot? (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:35:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bubble doors
    From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
    Steve, That looks like the ones I saw on the Model II at the Carleton Place, Ontario fly-in back in Sept. Am interested in using them on my Model II if they fit. Cheers Ken -------- Ken Potter Model II, No. 483 Rotax 582, C-Box, 99% Complete C-FJKP Lanark, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318183#318183


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    Time: 04:39:16 PM PST US
    From: Pete Christensen <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Bubble doors
    The bubble doors on my Kitfox III came from LP Aero Plastics. Pete On 11/4/2010 5:32 PM, Ken Potter wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ken Potter"<kjpotter@sympatico.ca> > > Steve, > That looks like the ones I saw on the Model II at the Carleton Place, Ontario fly-in back in Sept. Am interested in using them on my Model II if they fit. > Cheers > Ken > > -------- > Ken Potter > Model II, No. 483 > Rotax 582, C-Box, > 99% Complete > C-FJKP > Lanark, Ontario > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318183#318183 > >


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    Time: 04:46:21 PM PST US
    From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: 582 running hot?
    I have a Grey Head 582 running at climb 5800 rpm 180 degrees-at cruse 540 0 rpm 170-175 I- and 70mph I have Changed the pitch from static 5800 to 6 200 and no change I have a two blade IVO Medium for at least 100 hr now- Checked the carbon on pistons but looks clean- I moved the radiator down one inch to get more air on it-, the outside air temp is been 80-85 water is a 50-50 mix it is two years old and 183 hrs, egt's run about 1150-1100 - no cht gage,- it cools right off when pulling the throttle back and s lowing down,-at 6000 rpm level still runs 180-+ but i don't go much hot ter.- Question; How hot do people run there's , What can I look for to ru n cooler ? My next place will take out temp sender unit -and put in hot w ater with thermometer to see if the same. ANY thing will be appreciated, Th anks Jerry Evans KitfoxII Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555


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    Time: 05:04:15 PM PST US
    From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts
    I thought I was told NOT to run a light IVO prop with the 582 and C box- only medium,,, any comments Jerry Evans KitfoxII Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555 --- On Wed, 11/3/10, carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com> wrote: From: carlisle <carlisle_99@yahoo.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: 8mm vs AN5 prop bolts Got my new Ivo light 68" ground adjustable prop in. Sure is smooth on runup and love that easy ground adjusting method. Weather won't allow inflight t est yet though. The supplied 8mm mounting bolts work but are a little long for my taste. On ce properly torqued, the threaded end comes within a few mm of touching the 'C' gearbox housing. Also, I'd feel better if they were drilled and I coul d safety wire them too. So the question is, can one get shorter 8mm AN quality bolts with the heads drilled? Should I just use drilled AN5 bolts instead? Or, should I just ad d some washers on the face of the prop hub and not worry about safety wirin g? Chris Carlisle Model 2, 582 Bluehead, C box Sioux Falls, SD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318032#318032 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:10:45 PM PST US
    From: "JC Propeller Design" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
    Subject: Re: 582 running hot?
    Hi Do you have a radiator scoop? calibrated RPM indicator? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry evans To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 running hot? I have a Grey Head 582 running at climb 5800 rpm 180 degrees at cruse 5400 rpm 170-175 I and 70mph I have Changed the pitch from static 5800 to 6200 and no change I have a two blade IVO Medium for at least 100 hr now Checked the carbon on pistons but looks clean I moved the radiator down one inch to get more air on it , the outside air temp is been 80-85 water is a 50-50 mix it is two years old and 183 hrs, egt's run about 1150-1100 no cht gage, it cools right off when pulling the throttle back and slowing down, at 6000 rpm level still runs 180 + but i don't go much hotter. Question; How hot do people run there's , What can I look for to run cooler ? My next place will take out temp sender unit and put in hot water with thermometer to see if the same. ANY thing will be appreciated, Thanks Jerry Evans KitfoxII Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555


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    Time: 05:25:15 PM PST US
    From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 running hot?
    no scoop- no calibrated RPM- But this has just been the last 10-15 Hr's Jerry Evans KitfoxII Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555 --- On Thu, 11/4/10, JC Propeller Design <propellerdesign@tele2.se> wrote: From: JC Propeller Design <propellerdesign@tele2.se> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 running hot? Hi - Do you have a radiator scoop? calibrated RPM indicator? - Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry evans Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 running hot? I have a Grey Head 582 running at climb 5800 rpm 180 degrees-at cruse 540 0 rpm 170-175 I- and 70mph I have Changed the pitch from static 5800 to 6 200 and no change I have a two blade IVO Medium for at least 100 hr now- Checked the carbon on pistons but looks clean- I moved the radiator down one inch to get more air on it-, the outside air temp is been 80-85 water is a 50-50 mix it is two years old and 183 hrs, egt's run about 1150-1100 - no cht gage,- it cools right off when pulling the throttle back and s lowing down,-at 6000 rpm level still runs 180-+ but i don't go much hot ter.- Question; How hot do people run there's , What can I look for to ru n cooler ? My next place will take out temp sender unit -and put in hot w ater with thermometer to see if the same. ANY thing will be appreciated, Th anks Jerry Evans KitfoxII Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555 href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chr ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 09:43:23 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 running hot?
    On 11/4/2010 4:44 PM, jerry evans wrote: > Question; How hot do people run there's , What can I look for to run > cooler ? My next place will take out temp sender unit and put in hot > water with thermometer to see if the same. ANY thing will be > appreciated, Thanks Jerry, I run up to 180 on takeoff if the ground is above 90F. S&L I rarely go over 160 no matter how hot it gets. I'd check the thermostat- I've had several fail, sometimes they even break in half. Check the vent in the water pump to make sure you don't have an air bubble. Make sure none of your water lines loop over such that they can trap a bubble. -- *_Guy Buchanan_* Scoutmaster -- Troop 680 760.809.6145 scoutmaster@troop680.org <mailto:scoutmaster@troop680.org> www.troop680.org




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