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1. 05:15 AM - Re: fiberglass fuel tanks needed (WurlyBird)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (WurlyBird)
3. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (Lowell Fitt)
4. 11:23 AM - Model 3/4 struts (carlisle)
5. 11:35 AM - Re: Prop pitch (mikeperkins)
6. 12:12 PM - Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (dave)
7. 12:14 PM - Wanted: Kitfox (b d)
8. 12:33 PM - Wanted Rotax 912 S 100HP (fjo2006@gmail.com)
9. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (Guy Buchanan)
10. 01:04 PM - Re: Wanted: Kitfox (Guy Buchanan)
11. 01:06 PM - Re: Wanted: Kitfox (Loel Putnam)
12. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: fiberglass fuel tanks needed (Malcolm Brubaker)
13. 02:04 PM - Re: Wanted: Kitfox (b d)
14. 02:05 PM - Re: Wanted: Kitfox (b d)
15. 04:39 PM - Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (WurlyBird)
16. 04:42 PM - Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article (WurlyBird)
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| Subject: | Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... |
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| Subject: | Re: fiberglass fuel tanks needed |
I am removing the wing tanks from my Mod 3. The left tank started leaking a little
so I am going to the nylon ones from Wingtanks.com. I was home on leave
last week and removed the left one and the glass has some spiderwebs forming in
the lower surface. I did not reveal the right one so I cannot say if it is
in better condition. I will be home in March and the tanks will come off promptly
after that. You are welcome to them for shipping costs at that time if you
like.
James
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
Cool, I think this forum is a good place for a couple questions I have had about
the IV vs. the III. I love my III but have considered moving to a IV but can
not find answers to some of my questions.
1. What is the cabin width? The III is cramped at best especially if the doors
are on and I would like to have a little more shoulder room for when taking friends
flying.
2. How is the STOL in comparison to a III? To the best of what I can find published
online the IVs stall speed is about 30% higher, that is pretty significant
even though 39 mph is not exactly burning it in.
3. Vne is 120 mph for the IV right?
4. Does the IV have the adjustable rudder pedals? What can I say, I am short.
Thanks for any questions you all can answer.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
James,
I might take a stab at this.
My cabin width is just a tad over 38". The doors bow out but that would be
at the elbow width and I guess that would add about another four inches or
so there.
In the typical full stall landing, I thing you would have a higher stall
speed. I have a friend in Idaho who just finished his third Model IV and
his last comment to me was that he was able to land at 35 mph indicated. I
asked about power at flair and he said he goes to 3500 rpm and lands behind
the power curve. I guess if you did that on both airplanes the III would
still beat the IV, but if you have been landing full stall, you can practice
and become proficient on the power on touch.
VNE is 125 mph. I guess the 120 comes in because it is tough finding an ASI
that is calibrated to a max speed in that area. My ASI pegs at 120.
Falcon sells an ASI that reads to 140 mph. Then again, we have been told -
factory info- that the VNE is actually determined by windshield thickness.
So of you are diving into that back country canyon, watch the Lexan begin to
cave in then slow down - my opinion.
No in cockpit adjustable rudder pedals. The manual calls for adjusting
links in the rudder cables so you can by removing a bolt sliding to another
hole in the link, you can shorten the cables, essentially moving the pedals
aft, which is what you are after. Sort of like "KISS".
Lowell
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From: "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:33 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article
> <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
>
> Cool, I think this forum is a good place for a couple questions I have had
> about the IV vs. the III. I love my III but have considered moving to a
> IV but can not find answers to some of my questions.
>
> 1. What is the cabin width? The III is cramped at best especially if the
> doors are on and I would like to have a little more shoulder room for when
> taking friends flying.
>
> 2. How is the STOL in comparison to a III? To the best of what I can find
> published online the IVs stall speed is about 30% higher, that is pretty
> significant even though 39 mph is not exactly burning it in.
>
> 3. Vne is 120 mph for the IV right?
>
> 4. Does the IV have the adjustable rudder pedals? What can I say, I am
> short.
>
> Thanks for any questions you all can answer.
>
> --------
> James
> Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
> 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
> now she lies in wait
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321360#321360
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Model 3/4 struts |
I've never really been satisfied in explanations about the structural differences
between my Model 2 (ser# 707) and subsequent models. Factory says mine is
actually a kind of 2 1/2, with larger diam carry through tubes on spars and gear
and also with extra diagonal tubing welded along the frame where the bungee's
attach.
I also remember something about how they increased subsequent gross weights by
making the struts out of larger diameter, thicker walled tubing and attaching
them further out along the spars but nobody seems to know how much larger or how
much further.
So, could someone with a model 3 and also a 4 take the time to measure the diameter
of their strut tubing and also the length from the attach bolt on the fuselage
weldment behind the the seat to the attach bolt on the front spar bracket?
Thanks,
Chris Carlisle
Model 2, 582, C box
Sioux Falls, SD
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Getting the right prop load on a 2-cycle engine will help prevent seizures, make it run efficiently, and prevent the temptation of making mixture adjustments. This is a great webinar to watch to do that: http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=626943072001
Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
James
m
You can make adjustable rudders pedal I am 5' 9" and no probles in the ones I flown
, Kitfox 1,2,3 and 4.
I prefer the IV over the other 3. Cabin about 4 inches wider at shoulders. You
can modify the doors on earlier models to add a little width.
Mine stall around 37 mph. I never had one stall at the published 26 to 30 mph
unless it weights about 350 lbs........
Check out my videos and put your up to compare.
Hey I think I might go for afly today -got 4 kitoxes at my strip today.
Compare to my IV for STOL ops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed1VRxzH0iU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqyBYxU0lU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0COIbiwm9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg1qKTvHOAg
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
http://www.cfisher.com/
http://www.kitfoxflyer.com/
http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer
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Does anyone have or know of a kitfox that is forsale?
Thank you in advance,
Bruce
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| Subject: | Wanted Rotax 912 S 100HP |
Please, I'm looking for a Rotax 912 S to install aKitfox Vixen
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
On 11/28/2010 5:33 AM, WurlyBird wrote:
> 1. What is the cabin width? The III is cramped at best especially if the doors
are on and I would like to have a little more shoulder room for when taking
friends flying.
>
Same.
> 2. How is the STOL in comparison to a III? To the best of what I can find published
online the IVs stall speed is about 30% higher, that is pretty significant
even though 39 mph is not exactly burning it in.
>
Worse. You've got it right, the stall speed is higher because the wing
section is flatter but no thicker.
> 3. Vne is 120 mph for the IV right?
>
Right, though I'm told you can do 140 with thicker windshields, a la the
Speedster.
> 4. Does the IV have the adjustable rudder pedals? What can I say, I am short.
>
No, the IV is the same as the III in that regard. Install a thick, comfy
seat, and you should be fine.
Guy Buchanan
Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C changing to 912s / Warp 3cs / 500 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Kitfox |
On 11/28/2010 12:12 PM, b d wrote:
> Does anyone have or know of a kitfox that is forsale?
Bruce,
Go to: www.barnstormers.com and search for "Kitfox". That's the
best place I've found.
Guy Buchanan
Kitfox IV-1200 / 582-C to 912s / Warp 3cs / 500 hours
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Hi Bruce=2C
I have a kitfox 111 that I am interested in selling. Had it on ebay a coupl
e of weeks ago. Had a lot of watchers but just one bid. You can email me at
pilot77777@hotmail.com and I will give you all the information on it and a
nswer your questions.
Thanks=2C
Loel
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wanted: Kitfox
From: gpabruce@gmail.com
Does anyone have or know of a kitfox that is forsale?
Thank you in advance=2C
Bruce
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| Subject: | Re: fiberglass fuel tanks needed |
i an interested in the tank if you still have it in- march-- mal=0A
-Malcolm Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport=0APilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0A(
989)513-3022 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: WurlyB
ird <james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Sun, November 28, 2010 8:13:14 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re: fiberglass fu
t.trizzino@us.army.mil>=0A=0AI am removing the wing tanks from my Mod 3.-
The left tank started leaking a =0Alittle so I am going to the nylon ones
from Wingtanks.com.- I was home on leave =0Alast week and removed the lef
t one and the glass has some spiderwebs forming in =0Athe lower surface.-
I did not reveal the right one so I cannot say if it is in =0Abetter condi
tion.- I will be home in March and the tanks will come off promptly =0Aaf
ter that.- You are welcome to them for shipping costs at that time if you
=0Alike.=0A=0AJames=0A=0A--------=0AJames=0AKitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO
2 blade GA=0A50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,=0A- - - now sh
e lies in wait=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forum
==================0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Kitfox |
Yes I agree that is one way and I do that too.
Thanks Bruce
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/28/2010 12:12 PM, b d wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have or know of a kitfox that is forsale?
>>
> Bruce,
> Go to: www.barnstormers.com and search for "Kitfox". That's the best
> place I've found.
>
> Guy Buchanan
> Kitfox IV-1200 / 582-C to 912s / Warp 3cs / 500 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Kitfox |
I understand, money is tight and scare. Many lookers and few buyers with
cash. I just sold my dragonfly and it was not fun.
Bruce
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Loel Putnam <pilot77777@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I have a kitfox 111 that I am interested in selling. Had it on ebay a
> couple of weeks ago. Had a lot of watchers but just one bid. You can email
> me at pilot77777@hotmail.com and I will give you all the information on it
> and answer your questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Loel
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:12:06 -0800
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Wanted: Kitfox
> From: gpabruce@gmail.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Does anyone have or know of a kitfox that is forsale?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Bruce
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
Thanks guys. I would hate to say exactly what speed I land at since my ASI is
low at low speeds and high at high speed, but solo it is fantastically slow in
a power off and the back side is ridiculous and brings a big grin to my face.
I am too busy outside to see what the ASI is saying but in a light headwind
she will get nose high enough to block the runway and feel like a walking pace.
We call it hover taxiing. Just have to be careful of crosswind gusts.
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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| Subject: | Re: 1991 AOPA Kitfox article |
Dave,
Trust me, I watch your videos frequently, I can't tell you how much I miss
flying my Fox. Rest assured that once I get home and she is back up I will post
video. Especially if I get the 700E, we can have a video fly off [Laughing]
Take it easy.
James
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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,
now she lies in wait
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